Archie characters in the Nick series, is it possible and how would you feel about it?

[Mugic]

Alot of Ninjara hate all of a sudden here

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Mugic

Alot of Ninjara hate all of a sudden here

How is it hate? She's just another one of those generic dark n' edgy hawt n' sexy chicks that tend to crop up everywhere in fiction. Star Wars had it's Mara Jade, Resident Evil has Alice, Underworld has Selene, Ultraviolet has Violet. They're boring. You rarely see a woman in a role other then this when she's an action star. No technical mage like abilities as with Donnie, no ugly fighter with an anger problem like Raph, no relaxed and goofy tendencies like Mikey and no leadership qualities like Leo.

It's like always seeing the buffed up un-flawed beefcake dude as the fighter and never seeing the nerd, businessman, goof, weirdo, or old military general. I share another person's sentiment when I say that I hope they just give Raph or whomever a new love interest.

One thing I do wonder about and noticed (and this is a bit odd topic) is why do they always give the male mutants any (mutant) love interest they want, but almost always give the human woman the one lone human male that stands there? Is it because they are afraid of *certain things* or is a subconscious 'We don't want one of those things touching our human women, they can have the female mutants instead." Would it still feel the same if the mutant in question had been formerly human before he gets to know the girl, or is she permanently off limits once he is mutated?

[miru]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

How is it hate? She's just another one of those generic dark n' edgy hawt n' sexy chicks that tend to crop up everywhere in fiction. Star Wars had it's Mara Jade, Resident Evil has Alice, Underworld has Selene, Ultraviolet has Violet. They're boring. You rarely see a woman in a role other then this when she's an action star. No technical mage like abilities as with Donnie, no ugly fighter with an anger problem like Raph, no relaxed and goofy tendencies like Mikey and no leadership qualities like Leo.

It's like always seeing the buffed up un-flawed beefcake dude as the fighter and never seeing the nerd, businessman, goof, weirdo, or old military general. I share another person's sentiment when I say that I hope they just give Raph or whomever a new love interest.

One thing I do wonder about and noticed (and this is a bit odd topic) is why do they always give the male mutants any (mutant) love interest they want, but almost always give the human woman the one lone human male that stands there? Is it because they are afraid of *certain things* or is a subconscious 'We don't want one of those things touching our human women, they can have the female mutants instead." Would it still feel the same if the mutant in question had been formerly human before he gets to know the girl, or is she permanently off limits once he is mutated?

Many of the other Archie characters are much worse than Ninjara. If I could have one heroic Archie character, it would be her.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

How is it hate? She's just another one of those generic dark n' edgy hawt n' sexy chicks that tend to crop up everywhere in fiction. Star Wars had it's Mara Jade, Resident Evil has Alice, Underworld has Selene, Ultraviolet has Violet. They're boring. You rarely see a woman in a role other then this when she's an action star. No technical mage like abilities as with Donnie, no ugly fighter with an anger problem like Raph, no relaxed and goofy tendencies like Mikey and no leadership qualities like Leo.

It's like always seeing the buffed up un-flawed beefcake dude as the fighter and never seeing the nerd, businessman, goof, weirdo, or old military general. I share another person's sentiment when I say that I hope they just give Raph or whomever a new love interest.

One thing I do wonder about and noticed (and this is a bit odd topic) is why do they always give the male mutants any (mutant) love interest they want, but almost always give the human woman the one lone human male that stands there? Is it because they are afraid of *certain things* or is a subconscious 'We don't want one of those things touching our human women, they can have the female mutants instead." Would it still feel the same if the mutant in question had been formerly human before he gets to know the girl, or is she permanently off limits once he is mutated?

I wouldn't call Ninjara generic, She was one of my favorite characters on that Archie series run of TMNT.

[snake]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

How is it hate? She's just another one of those generic dark n' edgy hawt n' sexy chicks that tend to crop up everywhere in fiction. Star Wars had it's Mara Jade, Resident Evil has Alice, Underworld has Selene, Ultraviolet has Violet. They're boring. You rarely see a woman in a role other then this when she's an action star. No technical mage like abilities as with Donnie, no ugly fighter with an anger problem like Raph, no relaxed and goofy tendencies like Mikey and no leadership qualities like Leo.

You said it.

She's also furry bait before furries even existed.

[pennydreadful]

Furries have always existed. Since the dawn of time.

Watching.

Waiting.

Seriously though, why d'you think primitive man went around clad in animal furs? Prehistoric cosplay/fursuiting, yo!

[Mugic]

Technically the term furry can also be applied to the Turtles and Splinter, also if Ninjara's personality in the comics is too similar to the 2k12 version of Karai why not just change it?

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Mugic

Technically the term furry can also be applied to the Turtles and Splinter, also if Ninjara's personality in the comics is too similar to the 2k12 version of Karai why not just change it?

While true, The Turtles would fall into the Scalies category for Furries.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

If they're cool like Armaggon and Verminator, go for it!

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Furries have always existed. Since the dawn of time.

Watching.

Waiting.

Seriously though, why d'you think primitive man went around clad in animal furs? Prehistoric cosplay/fursuiting, yo!

I know this is a joke but this post still upsets me.

[pennydreadful]

I'm probably going to regret asking this but... why?

Furries are people just like everyone else - they're not hurting anyone. We have plenty of folks on the board who enjoy anthro artwork - that doesn't mean that they want to throw Rover a bone in their free time, y'know? Most folk I've met here who enjoy anthro art don't even ID as furries anyway.

Live and let live, I say. *shrugs* I know Kris Kristofferson said everybody likes to have somebody to look down on - but as long as you're not hurting anyone else, I don't see why people shouldn't be free to enjoy what they like. People get way too hung up on hating on others just because they're different/don't like the same things. It just seems silly to me, and I've never understood it.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

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I'm probably going to regret asking this but... why?

Furries are people just like everyone else - they're not hurting anyone. We have plenty of folks on the board who enjoy anthro artwork - that doesn't mean that they want to throw Rover a bone in their free time, y'know? Most folk I've met here who enjoy anthro art don't even ID as furries anyway.

Live and let live, I say. *shrugs* I know Kris Kristofferson said everybody likes to have somebody to look down on - but as long as you're not hurting anyone else, I don't see why people shouldn't be free to enjoy what they like. People get way too hung up on hating on others just because they're different/don't like the same things. It just seems silly to me, and I've never understood it.

True, Some like anthro artwork because it looks cool.

[Leo656]

Remember, penny, the world only works in extremes and absolutes, now. Any guy who ever had a crush on Cheetara (or Ninjara, more to the point of topic) clearly also wants to bang the family pets, for example. Just like if you've ever had your friend's kid sit on your lap, you're a pedo. Or if a girl rides horses, she secretly craves giant horse dong. And if you think Obama is a mere figurehead, you secretly hate all black people.

So there's ALWAYS a sinister ulterior motive for everything, and if you don't think so, it just means you must be one of the REAL freaks and god only knows what you're into.

[pingclang]

I'm no furry but as long as it isn't hurting anyone, what the heck does it matter? I would love to see Ninjara, just because she was a cool character. Here's a crazy and different idea, instead of turning Karai into a snake-handed snake, they should have made her a fox and *gasp* you basically have Ninjara, maybe she even calls herself that, but of course, I'm thinking, and that's a horrible thing.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by pingclang

I'm no furry but as long as it isn't hurting anyone, what the heck does it matter? I would love to see Ninjara, just because she was a cool character. Here's a crazy and different idea, instead of turning Karai into a snake-handed snake, they should have made her a fox and *gasp* you basically have Ninjara, maybe she even calls herself that, but of course, I'm thinking, and that's a horrible thing.

That wouldn't make sense since, Raph always had a thing for Ninjara, and Leo kind of has a thing for Karai.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

http://img.pandawhale.com/122947-ace...n-gif-y1z3.gif

I'm probably going to regret asking this but... why?

Furries are people just like everyone else - they're not hurting anyone. We have plenty of folks on the board who enjoy anthro artwork - that doesn't mean that they want to throw Rover a bone in their free time, y'know? Most folk I've met here who enjoy anthro art don't even ID as furries anyway.

Live and let live, I say. *shrugs* I know Kris Kristofferson said everybody likes to have somebody to look down on - but as long as you're not hurting anyone else, I don't see why people shouldn't be free to enjoy what they like. People get way too hung up on hating on others just because they're different/don't like the same things. It just seems silly to me, and I've never understood it.

It's not the furries themselves, it's what a few tend to do that taints the whole group. 'Scritching' sexualized artwork featuring anthro characters in quite ah, compromising positions, that sort of thing. And all of this with the very muddy definitions that having mutants or fantastical characters brings. And that is primarily the difficulty, not really much else.

And while it might seem not so weird to those that see it as just another fetish, to those that are on the 'outside,' it feels like a bit bordering on bestiality, especially as the idea of mutants muddles the whole thing.

For an example, can you consider attractive a mutant that was once human? Are they still considered 'human' or are they now 'animal?' And if it's a mutant that was once an animal, is 'liking' them acceptable once they became a mutant, or are they still considered an 'animal?'

It's either being a 'furry' if you like such a creature or having an attraction to something that is sentient and not an animal.

[pingclang]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

That wouldn't make sense since, Raph always had a thing for Ninjara, and Leo kind of has a thing for Karai.

As I said, I was thinking and that's a horrible thing.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by miru

Many of the other Archie characters are much worse than Ninjara. If I could have one heroic Archie character, it would be her.

Ninjara should be with them in some issues set in Japan, not hanging around wit them for years.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

It's not the furries themselves, it's what a few tend to do that taints the whole group. 'Scritching' sexualized artwork featuring anthro characters in quite ah, compromising positions, that sort of thing. And all of this with the very muddy definitions that having mutants or fantastical characters brings. And that is primarily the difficulty, not really much else.

And while it might seem not so weird to those that see it as just another fetish, to those that are on the 'outside,' it feels like a bit bordering on bestiality, especially as the idea of mutants muddles the whole thing.

For an example, can you consider attractive a mutant that was once human? Are they still considered 'human' or are they now 'animal?' And if it's a mutant that was once an animal, is 'liking' them acceptable once they became a mutant, or are they still considered an 'animal?'

It's either being a 'furry' if you like such a creature or having an attraction to something that is sentient and not an animal.

Being a grown-up who reads too many comics and watches too many cartoons, it's no surprise that some people I know are "furries". Some are open about it, some are "in the closet", so to speak, but they're all okay people. What I find in discussing things with them, is that it's often less a "bestiality" thing, and more just a predilection towards the "bizarre" or fantastical. Now, maybe some of them are lying, but I've never met anyone who was a furry who actually wanted to have sex with actual animals. I mean, I can see how an "outside" person could make the connection, and I'm sure in reality some people do, but it's the same kind of assumption as, "You're bisexual? So, what, you just want to have sex with everyone you meet, right?" Or, "You listen to Marilyn Manson? You must cut yourself and be currently planning a shooting spree." It's a pretty big leap of logic to go from one to the other, basically. In truth, most people I talk to about it just have a fetish for cartoon characters in general, many of which are drawn hyper-sexualized whether they're human or anthro or whatever else.

To me, the fact that those cartoon characters don't and can't physically exist, makes it a harmless fetish. Someone who hates clowns would think a person who gets off on clown porn is "sick". Isn't it their business entirely, though? Like, who asked? And whether a person has a thing for Jessica Rabbit, or Lola Bunny, it's a cartoon character either way, so isn't the rest just splitting hairs? They physically can never act on it, after all.

I don't know. I think people freak out too much over that stuff. And there's always a lot of, "You like (X), so you must secretly like (Y), which is never good. Maybe I'm just sensitive to it because I see a lot of otherwise "normal" people get "branded" because they have a kink, and not gonna lie, it bothers me. Who they hurtin'?

More to the topic, though, to me, Raphael's relationship with Ninjara was the only time he's ever been interesting, because it gave him some depth beyond "Angry For No Real Reason" all the time, so I liked it. I thought some of it could've been done better, but that's the entire Archie series in a nutshell. "Pretty good, better than some, could've been better." I thought her character was one of the more creative ideas to come out of that series. Not sure if I'd want to see her on the Nick show, I'm not a huge fan of how they present their characters. Could be okay, could be crummy.

[Powder]

I don't really give two buffs of wax on a shell what people are into, it's that the vocal majority want to shove their animal-man lust down other people's throats. You make a post on _________ & the next guy is like MMM DAT ALOPEX BOOTY. ROSS CAMPBELL DRAWS HER HIPS SO THICK I JUST WANNA *******!@#$%^%$#@#&^%!***

THAT is why I take issue with appeasing their sensibilities. I don't wanna read anybody's fantasies, period, let alone about animal folk.