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Old 12-06-2024, 07:45 PM   #21
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Healthcare should be a right not a privilege. You pay for a privilege. The only privilege here is that you have the choice to use the NHS or go private.

And besides, the survival rates for a number of chronic conditions suggests otherwise re America having the best healthcare system. So you’re sometimes paying through the nose and still not getting as good care as many other countries.
Healthcare should be a "right". But your regular bull$#!( semantics aside, you can't force someone to give enough a $#!( about you to care for you. In tribal days people were denied healthcare from the tribe all the time unless the tribe needed them specifically for something.

Obviously we have different worldviews now over our tribal past, but the simple fact is that you cannot in ethical society, ironically enough, compel anyone to take care of you. And that is why there are free market solutions even for that. But healthcare isn't an 'inalienable right' because it requires other people to take care of you - and at the end of the day those people have a choice to do it or not. Freedom is a "right" because it requires nothing of others beyond "letting you be 'free". There is a huge difference.

Either way, America has the best healthcare system, even when it is restricted by government in terms of drug certifications and whatnot.
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Old 12-07-2024, 06:59 AM   #22
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Either way, America has the best healthcare system, even when it is restricted by government in terms of drug certifications and whatnot.
Lmao, one of the most insane things I have ever seen on the internet.
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Old 12-07-2024, 09:41 AM   #23
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Lmao, one of the most insane things I have ever seen on the internet.
It's true. Total sum, regulation included, it's 100% true.
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Old 12-07-2024, 01:23 PM   #24
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How indoctrinated are you?
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Old 12-07-2024, 03:18 PM   #25
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ies-worldwide/

US is 69th in the world…

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Old 12-07-2024, 04:32 PM   #26
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"Show me how you don't know anything you're talking about in one post." Yeah, that about sums up my thoughts there.
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Old 12-08-2024, 05:05 AM   #27
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So there appears to now be cosplay competitions springing up celebrating the hitman and there are fanfics being written about him on Archive of our Own
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Old 12-08-2024, 03:47 PM   #28
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Tf... Some days I hate that people have access to the internet.

Though I'd be willing to bet that some of those are the drama whore type of people who enjoy stirring up outrage, whether anyone is actually doing that, or someone is just creating rumors of it.
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Old 12-09-2024, 12:05 PM   #29
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And everyone is either saying thank you or posting memes about his insurance being denied.
Yes, I'm sure the "everyone" you see in social media from your "friends" are totally bipartisan... or sane.

I'm starting to see people take things a step further on Facebook and Instagram. Now these lefties have moved on from memes and celebration and now they're posting pictures and names of other healthcare CEOs.

*Edit: Sounds like they got their suspect. Luigi Mangione.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/un...tes-12-09-2024

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Old 12-09-2024, 02:30 PM   #30
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A damn dirty Italian!
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Old 12-09-2024, 02:32 PM   #31
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Now there better start being some Waluigi memes to keep things fair!
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Old 12-09-2024, 04:14 PM   #32
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Was this guy stupid, instead of staying low profile or undercover, he just goes back to work like nothing happened? I remember people thinking he fled the country.
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Old 12-09-2024, 04:19 PM   #33
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Was this guy stupid, instead of staying low profile or undercover, he just goes back to work like nothing happened? I remember people thinking he fled the country.
Apparently him just nervously bumbling around with his batch of fake IDs in a random McDonald's did him in. But yeah, we can retire the whole "Wow, this was a super cold-as-ice super trained assassin" thing. If he'd just chilled out on splaying out fake IDs in front of restaurant employees for a few more weeks, he probably would have gotten away with this.

Sidenote: a few hours ago you could readily find his Instagram and Facebook. Not much there recently but it was interesting what was. Now there's suddenly hundreds of fake accounts just created in the last couple of hours and I can't find them anymore.

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Old 12-09-2024, 06:25 PM   #34
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Apparently him just nervously bumbling around with his batch of fake IDs in a random McDonald's did him in. But yeah, we can retire the whole "Wow, this was a super cold-as-ice super trained assassin" thing. If he'd just chilled out on splaying out fake IDs in front of restaurant employees for a few more weeks, he probably would have gotten away with this.

Sidenote: a few hours ago you could readily find his Instagram and Facebook. Not much there recently but it was interesting what was. Now there's suddenly hundreds of fake accounts just created in the last couple of hours and I can't find them anymore.
His twitter if anyone is interested: https://x.com/PepMangione
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His twitter if anyone is interested: https://x.com/PepMangione
Dude looks like the sorta guy who might have been voted “most likely to succeed” in his high school.
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Apparently the gun is 3D printed, so he certainly has the nous and money...


Also cynical, but true given "they not takin' ma guuuuuuns!" especially as above...


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So they're finally filming the sequel to Mario 93?
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Old 12-10-2024, 05:48 AM   #38
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So they're finally filming the sequel to Mario 93?
Nintendo wondering why "Luigi" is trending right now...


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Look at this piece of sh**.

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Justice will be served. No matter what the motive, he still shot and skilled an (innocent) man in cold blood. You kill someone and you go to jail. All murderers shall pay for their crimes.
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