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Old 06-20-2024, 11:00 AM   #5021
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They look really good, just a bit chunky (not sure if that was the compromise for added articulation)

The heads are super accurate.

EDIT: I just went through some old clips, and it appears that they were kinda chunky in those episodes. They only appear sleek in the promotional images and Playmates figures.

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Old 06-20-2024, 11:06 AM   #5022
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Really want to see the 3D version to see how thick they are - but those head sculpts are fantastic. Great work taking 2D drawings and making them 3D.

So weird to see the designs from PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era in plastic.
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Old 06-20-2024, 11:12 AM   #5023
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Gotta say, these look really good! If Super7 isn't able to do as much of a one to one vintage line anymore, then doing some accurate that no one else is touching is a good way to go. All that said, even the vintage line wasn't enough for me to dip into Super7 so I may have to still wait and see how this look in person. Articulation is a bit goofy in some photos, but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far!
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Old 06-20-2024, 12:19 PM   #5024
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On the one hand... I'm glad they saved me $55. On the other hand, I don't understand how they bungled Leo so badly. He has two "goofy" heads as his pack-in, but what should have been his default expression is locked in that "Super Pack." I understand they really want to sell these, but there's no reason the extra portraits should be locked behind ordering all four (or directly from Super7, for that matter).
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Old 06-20-2024, 12:26 PM   #5025
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Hmmm.... I'm not a 2003 fan so I can't say I am very familiar with their look but they look a little...chubby.
The body sculpt is quite bad, but I think it looks worse from those head-on shots because of the shell. If you look at some of the action poses, the body itself appears to be leaner.

I don't know what's up with those tiny legs, though. They're way too short and probably contribute to the "chubby" look. I felt similarly about NECA's android body for Krang.
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Old 06-20-2024, 01:25 PM   #5026
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The negative comments here confuse me a bit. I mean, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but these honestly have to be the most accurate looking representations of the 2003 Turtles I've ever seen in any sort of capacity when it comes to merch! Which makes me happy, because I'm really tired of everything always being based off of how they look in the stock art, which has never been accurate to their on-screen appearance. I think maybe a lot of people here are too used to that stock art and haven't watched the show in a long time?

If I did have a complaint, though, it's that these feel a little light on accessories compared to before. They still have the essentials (and I'm glad Mikey has spinnin' chucks), but we've come a long way down compared to how many accessories these used to come with at the start of the line. Especially with how much they've cut down on extra hands. I know a lot of people complained that there were too many hands, but I liked having a lot of options. Besides, cutting down on hands didn't cut down on the price...

Whatever the case, these are great. The sculpts are accurate, the colors actually have that dark palette from the show itself instead of the bright colors from the stock art, and as someone who claims the 2003 TMNT as "my Turtles", I'm glad to finally see something in merch that actually looks like them!
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Old 06-20-2024, 02:23 PM   #5027
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The negative comments here confuse me a bit. I mean, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but these honestly have to be the most accurate looking representations of the 2003 Turtles I've ever seen in any sort of capacity when it comes to merch! Which makes me happy, because I'm really tired of everything always being based off of how they look in the stock art, which has never been accurate to their on-screen appearance. I think maybe a lot of people here are too used to that stock art and haven't watched the show in a long time?
For me, it's the inaccuracy of the body sculpt, the choice of expressions for Leo, and the really scummy practice of locking a desirable head sculpt behind purchasing three extra figures (on this last point, though, I will cede that the majority of folks would probably opt to buy all four... though perhaps not directly from Super7).

I will say that I agree these are the most accurate representations of their on-screen counterparts... but they're still pretty inaccurate once you get past the heads. The main problems are the way they chose to do the plastrons, which I think accentuates that chubby look someone had mentioned earlier, and then also the short legs (edit: I actually think it's that the arms are too long).

Ultimately, these just aren't for me, but I'm absolutely happy for anyone excited for them. I'll be curious to see if Wave 13 alternates back to vintage as Brian claimed, or if they just stick with this for awhile.

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Old 06-20-2024, 03:21 PM   #5028
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They look really good, just a bit chunky (not sure if that was the compromise for added articulation)

The heads are super accurate.

EDIT: I just went through some old clips, and it appears that they were kinda chunky in those episodes. They only appear sleek in the promotional images and Playmates figures.
And don’t forget that the original 2k3 figures weren’t even intended to be for that show - but the failed WB pitch. Playmates just slapped a new head on the body.
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Old 06-20-2024, 05:06 PM   #5029
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On the one hand... I'm glad they saved me $55. He has two "goofy" heads as his pack-in, but what should have been his default expression is locked in that "Super Pack." I understand they really want to sell these, but there's no reason the extra portraits should be locked behind ordering all four (or directly from Super7, for that matter).
It’s called marketing. So, yeah this is going to be one of those times that I will be ordering from the S7 store as the best portraits are locked…regarding Leo, I agree that the more stoic expression is fitting, but it’s not like he doesn’t make goofy faces in the show. Regarding, the proportions, we may have a lot more freedom over how they look once they’re in hand than we realize based on the renders
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Old 06-20-2024, 07:41 PM   #5030
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On the 2003 4-pack page, at the very end of the image gallery is a video that shows a 360 degree view of each Turtle.

https://cdn.shopify.com/videos/c/vp/...s-30711427.mp4

https://super7.com/products/teenage-...atello-raphael
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Old 06-20-2024, 09:11 PM   #5031
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Wow.
I mean... WOW. Super7 knocked it out of the park with those '03 Turtles. WOW.
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Old 06-20-2024, 11:01 PM   #5032
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They look awesome!
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Old 06-21-2024, 12:24 AM   #5033
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I've been checking out the comments on the Facebook/IG groups. It looks like they are 99% overwhelmingly positive, a new high for Super7 since I dunno...like the days of wave 1-4.
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Old 06-21-2024, 01:14 AM   #5034
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I think they look good but probably not worth that price. Definitely lacking accessories and I’m not sure about that paint. Not really digging the gloss or lack of shading. I’ll have to see more images but I may pass. I think Neca could probably do better.
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Old 06-21-2024, 06:45 AM   #5035
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On the one hand... I'm glad they saved me $55. On the other hand, I don't understand how they bungled Leo so badly. He has two "goofy" heads as his pack-in, but what should have been his default expression is locked in that "Super Pack."
Huh. I guess I don't think as both heads as having a goofy expression.

I think these look really good, and the old me would have preordered already, but there's just too much stuff floating around out there and at this point I should be thinning out my collection rather than adding to it!
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Old 06-21-2024, 07:12 AM   #5036
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...regarding Leo, I agree that the more stoic expression is fitting, but it’s not like he doesn’t make goofy faces in the show. Regarding, the proportions, we may have a lot more freedom over how they look once they’re in hand than we realize based on the renders
It's not that he was never goofy, so much as that's not how he was primarily represented on that show. The other three Turtles all come packed in with expressions that really capture their specific vibes, but Leo doesn't really feel like Leo. To the proportions, I'm not sure on that. Someone pointed out a 360° turnaround, and I actually think the proportions look even worse there. To be fair, the renders aren't necessarily the final product, but in what we can see at least, the arms are too long and the shells are way too bulky.

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I think they look good but probably not worth that price. Definitely lacking accessories and I’m not sure about that paint. Not really digging the gloss or lack of shading. I’ll have to see more images but I may pass. I think Neca could probably do better.
Super7 themselves could have done better (and has in the past when they had better sculptors on board - someone like Alex Brewer could have really knocked these out of the park), but these will do just fine. The head sculpts are mostly very good and the 2K3 fandom has been starved for product forever. There's plenty of room for improvement on these, but the people saying these are the best versions of the 2K3 Turtles aren't wrong.

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Huh. I guess I don't think as both heads as having a goofy expression.
Goofy may not be the right word, but they're variations on the same expression where he should have had a serious portrait by default. Honestly, even the bonus head is a little too "happy" for my tastes. Of all the Turtles, Leo should look disciplined or determined, and none of his portraits really capture that.
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Old 06-21-2024, 10:07 PM   #5037
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There's plenty of room for improvement on these, but the people saying these are the best versions of the 2K3 Turtles aren't wrong.
I guess that's a point right there. They're not perfect, but compared to everything else that's come before, they're the best we have. Maybe years down the line, we might even get something better, but I still can't help but feel like the 2003 TMNT are considered too niche and the favor will always inevitably fall back on 1987, despite 1987 not even being the original version of the TMNT.

Sorry if I sound bitter with that last sentiment. I'm just generally unhappy over how Paramount's treated this version of TMNT ever since they bought the whole IP.
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Old 06-22-2024, 06:45 AM   #5038
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Fred Wolf toon is what sent TMNT mainstream and then the movie helped knock it from the stratosphere into the infinite beyond. BUT I do feel like I sense FW merch starting to fizzle out. Maybe. Been wrong before.

That said these aren't for me, the combination of price and quality just isn't correct. And what a dick move to charge what they are while sorry the 3rd head you want most of all is an exclusive and by the way your figure comes with far less than our previous releases. That's the proof this is all extortion and not toy making.
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Old 06-22-2024, 08:06 AM   #5039
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Fred Wolf toon is what sent TMNT mainstream and then the movie helped knock it from the stratosphere into the infinite beyond. BUT I do feel like I sense FW merch starting to fizzle out. Maybe. Been wrong before.

That said these aren't for me, the combination of price and quality just isn't correct. And what a dick move to charge what they are while sorry the 3rd head you want most of all is an exclusive and by the way your figure comes with far less than our previous releases. That's the proof this is all extortion and not toy making.
These companies are not making toys for our own pleasure. It's all about money..in..every..single..thing
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Old 06-22-2024, 11:56 AM   #5040
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While Super7 figures are overpriced, I do feel that this set of the turtle bros offers more value (shelf presence and aesthetics) than say, higher priced toon Mezcos (despite the plethora of accessories). I know it's not a direct comparison. Revoltechs and Bandais have also set similar or higher price points on their merchandise.

It's arguable whether NECA (they will probably focus on the 2012 TMNT if they follow an extension of the 'gentleman's agreement') would have done better. These head sculpts are near impossible to beat. Perhaps, they would make better body sculpts, but they would not be very posable if you try to attempt something like the airborne pose that Raph is doing on the S7 product page, it would likely snap (unless, they use the superior articulation found in the Last Ronin synjas), and flake. Unlike, S7, NECA doesn't use pinless joints either.
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