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Renew Your Vows#4 was passable,
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Yeah, I've poked around a comic forum and I've gathered that there are plenty of readers who're sick of it. (There are also readers who love it, too, but that par for the course.[/quote]
It could very well be that that this was Slott plan regardless of what the larger Marvel comics plan is.
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Haven't had a chance to get it yet. I may have to wait until next week.
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Did you happen to read CBR's latest article on "Worst Comic Events?", they actually listed Slott's Superior Spider-Man as being worse than OMD.
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Wow, you're right. I thought that it was generally liked once it got started. I tried it and hated it, but for some reason, I got the idea that it was generally considered Slott's last really great story in the main ASM line. The stuff between SSM and Secret Wars seems to be considered okay at best, I'm getting really mixed reviews over the post-Secret Wars stuff. The only thing Slot did after SSM that really seems to be considered great was his RYV miniseries. Amazing that Civil War II is still brand new and already getting flack. Kind of surprised that "One More Day" got so low on the list, much lower that Clone Saga. I've heard that the latter has some redeeming stuff, while I have yet to hear anyone say anything good about OMD; even people who think it was the right call and ultimately fixed the comics seem to agree that it was a basically a bad story overall. Given that it's one opinion, though, I'm not sure how much it reflects the fanbase at large or Marvel's opinion on Slott's work. At long as it sells well, I'm guessing his job security is probably okay. I mean, as of right now, none of the other Spider-Man-themed books are outselling his stuff.
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The one thing that gets overlooked is how, despite how tragic the ending is, MJ's speech to Peter about how their love will ultimately overcome whatever Mephisto does to them one day leaves you with a sense of hope, and sort of excuses all of their behaviour up 'till now as just the influence of chaos magic. Clone Saga had it's moments, storylines within it that were good included "The Lost Years" "The Exile Returns", "Web of Death", "Web of Life", it pretty much turns to s*it as soon as Aunt May dies in "The Gift" (ASM#400) and does'nt get much better until half-way through Ben Reily's tenure as Spider-Man. |
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Finally did get my Issue 4 copy. Liked it overall. The story did seem a little rushed, but as an opening stretch, I liked it. I read these things for the characters, and they delivered on that front.
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I don't view RYV and the Strip as "wish fulfilment", they are legit universes with valid characters, the latter has been around since the 70s. It's perfectly fine to be invested in them without feeling like they're just a bone being thrown to us. The strip has ensured the marriage has made it to thirty years uninterupted. I know you like to play the strip down as being niche or it's own thing or whatever, but to me that's a seminal acheivement and it shouldnt be brushed off because it's not mainline canon. Why would they have Mephisto taunt Peter about his loss, have Peter sucker punch a simulcrum of Mephisto in Silver Surfer, and acknowledge RYV via deja vu in 616 if it wasn't leading anywhere? I think between you and me, I'm more of the optimist. I beleive the marriage will be mainline agan. And Ghost Peter was thankful Doc Ock breaking up with MJ was the right decision, the alternative was her being raped by him. The real MJ would never severe ties with Peter, just as I know Peter would never make half the childish decisions he's made since OMD. It's all to do with the deal, and I feel my views will be validated sooner or later, just as they were today with Superior being decreed worse than OMD by a site that normally heaps praise on Marvel in return for exclusives.
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Peter and MJ make number two on this official Marvel Couples video, and we get another OMD reference.
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Kind of funny how so many of those couples didn't work out. It's like the writers don't like it or something.
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We'll probably be saying the same thing about Sharon and Steve by the end of Secret Empire
That's just the persistent bane of an ongoing soap opera...some writers will want to take the characters North and South and put their own stamp on them, and might not take to the fact they have to be saddled with an existing relationship, it feels sort of like you sign on to be the guy to keep a house in order, and you're told to keep one room in it exactly the way it is. Some writers can feel constrained to that, even if it's the good of the house ultimately. At least Peter and MJ still have ongoing universes where they have made it work, and where the writers don't seem to have ever tired of it.
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So, Mary Jane has her hair down on the cover, but is wearing the bun in the story proper. Wonder if that's going to factor into the plot somehow, or if it's like the last issue, where the cover doesn't reflect the contents exactly.
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Daredevil#17 has another OMD Nod
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I thought Doctor Strange did the erasing for in Spider-Man's case.
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