All 2K3 TMNTS Seasons Now Available

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

Digitial is garbage. It has benefits, sure, but it's inherently unstable, could disappear at any time, can be edited retroactively, and you don't really own it. I try and track down a physical copy of everything I enjoy. Really, if you look hard enough, you can find a DVD or blu-ray of most shows, including this one. You just have to know where to look.

The problem is the old DVDs of the show are all out of order once you get to Season 3. And most being out of print makes them expensive. I actually owned most of them back in the day.

[Zog The Magnificent]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The problem is the old DVDs of the show are all out of order once you get to Season 3. And most being out of print makes them expensive. I actually owned most of them back in the day.

Oh I know, those DVDs are inconvenient as heck, and impossible to find. I've tried. But I wasn't talking about those DVDs.

[M.A.C.O.]

Originally Posted by frank_one

Is it really HD or just upscaled?

It says it’s HD. I think for AppleTV shows it’s 720p standard. But I can’t be sure. AppleTV does samples of episodes. So you can click on an episodes and check for yourself.

[The Turtle Terminator]

From what I’ve watched, I think the episodes look better (or, to sound more technical, the HD looks sharper) on the Paramount Plus editions. I did find some remasters on YouTube and they look absolutely stunning and are fully remastered. The iTunes versions are better than the DVDs offered.

[Shark_Blade]

Yup itunes look better.

Originally Posted by Zulithe

*edit* iTunes and VUDU both confirmed for 1080p, had to double check

Well, I guess i'll be picking it up on iTunes as soon as there is a sale.

Trend tracking shows the last sale was in 2018 for OT and never for 2k3 and Rise so you’ll be waiting a lot longer for sale, or maybe there’ll never be a sale at all. The 2012 series is constantly on sale tho.

Originally Posted by Zog The Magnificent

Digitial is garbage. It has benefits, sure, but it's inherently unstable, could disappear at any time, can be edited retroactively, and you don't really own it. I try and track down a physical copy of everything I enjoy. Really, if you look hard enough, you can find a DVD or blu-ray of most shows, including this one. You just have to know where to look.

Digital is the future, portable and cheaper (also it always goes on sale mostly). Hell there is no more physical video shop in most parts of the world and it’s very expensive to import everytime. Plus when I bought HD 1080p movies they upscale to 4K for free. I don’t have to rebuy a physical 4K disc and save money.

Adapt or get left behind.

Originally Posted by M.A.C.O.

Just checked AppleTV/iTunes. They have all 7 seasons in a bundle for $49.99 in HD.


Yeah, I too am wondering why Viacom/Paramount has made steps to release the remaining seasons of the 2K3 series. Crazy to think it’s been 14 years since the sale to Paramount. A long time to forget you own something.

I didn’t know they have the whole collection! It’s a lot cheaper than buying individual seasons. Cheers!

[Zog The Magnificent]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Digital is the future, portable and cheaper (also it always goes on sale mostly). Hell there is no more physical video shop in most parts of the world and it’s very expensive to import everytime. Plus when I bought HD 1080p movies they upscale to 4K for free. I don’t have to rebuy a physical 4K disc and save money.

Adapt or get left behind.

1080p for many things is pointless. The resolution change between that and 720p is miniscule in terms of what can actually be detected by your eye, and is pointless unless you've got a really nice TV, and even so the change in quality is ultimately pretty small. It's more noticible on live action stuff, but imperceivable on most animation. And 4k is ACTUALLY pointless; that's literally a higher resolution than the human eye. It's impossible to actually detect the difference.

Beyond that, physical media is still really easy to get online, and for pretty cheap. And none of that changes the point that YOU DON'T ACTUALLY OWN DIGITAL MEDIA. You own a licenese to it, that can be revoked at any time if the servers go down or the licence moves owners. There goes your library, and there's nothing you can do about it. Your stuff is gone, and the money you spent on it is still spent. Additionally, portable doesn't matter as much if you don't have an internet connection. I can watch my discs whenever I want. There are many more potential points of failure when relying on fully online tech. And once again, physical media can NEVER be edited after the fact, which we've already seen happen on older movies. I'm not getting left behind by using physical media and creating a personal offline archive, I'm ensuring that I actually own it and never lose it. I'm willing to use streaming, but I see no reason to "adapt" to what is ultimately a worse version of the previous system, nor do I wish to fully rely on something so inherently unstable.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The show was almost certainly finished in 4:3 standard definition. I think DC right around this time started to board their shows in widescreen -- and 20 years later eventually were able to release those versions on bluray. But I don't think 4Kids was doing that back then. If these are HD files then they're upscales.
Master material for this show is all over the place since some DVDs had commercial bumpers spliced in, and I recall some even had the rating bug at the start of the episode. Are those TVY7 notices on these digital copies?

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

The show was almost certainly finished in 4:3 standard definition. I think DC right around this time started to board their shows in widescreen -- and 20 years later eventually were able to release those versions on bluray. But I don't think 4Kids was doing that back then. If these are HD files then they're upscales.
Master material for this show is all over the place since some DVDs had commercial bumpers spliced in, and I recall some even had the rating bug at the start of the episode. Are those TVY7 notices on these digital copies?

From what I have seen, original commercial bumpers are retained in the digital batch. Each episode also has a newly added "You're watching Nickelodeon" ooze-bumper at the front end.



Thus far, I haven't noticed any TVY7 stamps on the front side yet.

The episode end credits are interesting. Unlike the broadcast and DVDs, they seem to move at reasonable speed instead of fast-forward, but they are now scrunched into vertical split-screen alongside a re-air of the opening animation sequence.

[CyberCubed]

Are any of those extras from the old DVD's like the T-Files shorts, or Mayhem on Monster Island from Season 7 there?

[frank_one]

Can someone post a screenshot or throw me a Youtube link? I'm curious to see if this is an upscaled version of SD quality material or something else.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Are any of those extras from the old DVD's like the T-Files shorts, or Mayhem on Monster Island from Season 7 there?

Doesn’t look like it.

Originally Posted by frank_one

Can someone post a screenshot or throw me a Youtube link? I'm curious to see if this is an upscaled version of SD quality material or something else.

A problem with screencaps is that most streaming services lock at “Standard Definition” when viewed on PC and mobile due to studio DRM demands. So the highest resolution only displays via HD television sets. Even screencapture is disabled by default on streaming sites so I have to use some browser extensions to override that.

[FlawedCoil82]

Originally Posted by Antoniocafe

Went ahead and purchased season seven since it'll never be released on DVD.

Miracles can still happen!
https://www.moviezyng.com/teenage-mu...s/810134941243

[Spike Spiegel]

This is on sale in a 7 season bundle for $24.99 on VUDU at the moment.

[M.A.C.O.]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

This is on sale in a 7 season bundle for $24.99 on VUDU at the moment.

I came here to post the same thing. TMNT 2K3, 2012 and Rise are all on sale for $24.99 on AppleTV.

Paramount giveth and they taketh away. The 10 seasons of the 1987 series has been removed from AppleTV.

The movies are all on sale as well. Hyping up Seth Rogen’s TMNT movie.

[Drose18]

Originally Posted by M.A.C.O.

Paramount giveth and they taketh away. The 10 seasons of the 1987 series has been removed from AppleTV.

Wait so if you previously bought that is It still available to your account to watch?

Meaning they just removed 1987 from the store?

[M.A.C.O.]

Originally Posted by Drose18

Wait so if you previously bought that is It still available to your account to watch?

Meaning they just removed 1987 from the store?

That’s correct. They were removed from the store for AppleTV and Vudu. If you bought them previously and they were in your library, they are still there.

Paramount might restore them later. It’s not uncommon.

[Ninja Tiptup]

And here I was starting to think we'd never see a digital release beyond season 3. It's nice to finally have all the episodes in my digital library. What isn't so great is the fact that Amazon swapped the prior SD version for seasons 1-3 in my library with the new SD version that's downscaled from the HD one and I'm pretty certain the video quality is worse than the prior version. That makes me all the more concerned about the OG TMNT episodes in my Vudu and iTunes cloud libraries. Whenever Viacom does upload their own versions it might be considered a different thing but it's just as likely that it will replace the episodes in the cloud library.

[Antoniocafe]

So my thought thus far about buying the complete DVD set has been to skip it. My thought has been that I have nothing to gain from buying the set, since I already own all of the episodes thorough a combination of previously released DVDs and purchases of seasons digitally. Buy what I'm wondering is this. Do I-Tunes, Amazon, and others rights to the show have an expiration? Meaning that even though I own the seasons through one of them, they might no longer have the rights to one of them after say 10 years? I'm wondering if that's the case, maybe I buy the complete set at least as a backup. Does anyone know whether or not these companies will eventually lose the rights to stream the show?

[Ninja Tiptup]

Originally Posted by Antoniocafe

So my thought thus far about buying the complete DVD set has been to skip it. My thought has been that I have nothing to gain from buying the set, since I already own all of the episodes thorough a combination of previously released DVDs and purchases of seasons digitally. Buy what I'm wondering is this. Do I-Tunes, Amazon, and others rights to the show have an expiration? Meaning that even though I own the seasons through one of them, they might no longer have the rights to one of them after say 10 years? I'm wondering if that's the case, maybe I buy the complete set at least as a backup. Does anyone know whether or not these companies will eventually lose the rights to stream the show?

We have a recent example of the 1987 series getting pulled from iTunes and Vudu when it's rights switched hands to Paramount Global.

There's hardly any concern for Paramount selling the turtles brand or any of it's individual series to another company so 2003, 2012 and Rise should continue to be available on iTunes, Vudu and Amazon streaming video unless the company ever decides to remove them.

Whatever is already in your purchased library should stay there but I have heard of cases where a film was removed from digital stores and was also removed from people's digital libraries with no notice and only a refund. So I'll never completely trust digital stores as long as Paramount owns TMNT that shouldn't ever happen. I still have access to my Vudu and iTunes copies of 1987 episodes at least for now.

What CAN happen is an old version of the video could get replaced by a new one. That is what happened to my SD digital copies of seasons 1-3 on Amazon when they rest of the series was made available upscaled to HD. And I'm pretty annoyed about it because chances are the new SD version is a downscale of the HD version and the video quality will suffer from that process. Whenever Paramount uploads their own versions of the 1987 episodes to digital stores I wouldn't be surprised if the episodes in my Vudu and iTunes library get replaced.

[Antoniocafe]

So it's interesting. Space Invaders Part 1 is now the first episode on the season three stream. I'm pretty sure it used to be The Christmas Aliens. Since the Christmas episode is more or less a stand alone episode, it works either way.