The 2024 presidential election

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

I wish all marriages were illegal or the marriage license can expire, because too many men have had a rough life through marriage because of divorce that screws us royally.

For example, just before my 11th birthday, my mom moved out and I was living the good life then with my dad. She would make up false claims that my dad would come home from a bowling league Wednesday nights drunk as hell and beat her up. I know and still do that was bullcrap, because I was with my dad those nights enjoying the arcade and I do recall my dad not being abusive at all. She was sleeping on the couch, he picks her up and carried her to bed. I found out a few months ago one reason why she left and it's because she wanted more freedom. Freedom? My dad provided her a nice car that she never took care of and ruined it by not changing the oil after she left. The only thing was that she didn't want to go to work, but just live the good life at my dad's expenses. At Christmas time, during their marriage, my mom would go up to the bedroom to cry if she didn't get that one thing from a list of 15 items off her list and put my dad down. What right did she have to request such a long list when she wasn't doing anything to earn it, but because of that one thing she didn't get off her list she let ruin the holiday. When she divorced my dad, it costed him, he told me $50K in lawyers. Then on top of that, my dad lost his job of 20 years during the divorce while taking care of me and a house. So let's be logic with this; if my dad was so horrible towards my mother, then why did I get to live with this so-called abusive man for 40 years while she went off to marry my now stepdad so she can have my sister and avoid work for the past 30 years?

Another example is my older brother's marriage. He married a real looney toon of a wife. The only time I met this woman was Christmas 2014 and she left me with a horrible impression of her when she would forced covered my ears while she was having "girl talk" with my mom. Every time she talked, she would put her hands over her heart and sounded like she was about to cry while talking about herself. That got old fast. Towards the end of their marriage, she would start bashing my brother on Facebook that could of ended his career with lies. Luckily my aunt found it, she told my mom and my mom told my brother and that is when it started to end. Thank god he didn't have any kids with her, otherwise, he would be paying for 18 years of child support with her, and he had no real financial value to pay for alimony.

Then there's all the stories you read about online about all the horrors of marriage and divorce, which is about 99% of men that ended up becoming MGTOW, including me.

So in conclusion; ban all marriages! There's no benefit for men, just expenses, debts, emotional trauma, and gold digging.

Kind of based?

While I obviously won't advocate for banning marriages in of themselves, there is something deeply flawed with the current system.

What was historically a system meant to ensure the production of strong and healthy offspring to carry on the blood of a people is now fundamentally broken.

Originally Posted by sdp

I hope Trump makes Gay marriage illegal again.
Elon must also get rid of most social programs through DOGE.
It's the only way to MAGA

ULTRA BASED.

If I am Trump, then you are my Elon.

[Mayhem]

Right, I’m helping you DonOLD, how about you help me? And I thought they were trying to eliminate government waste

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/13/g-s1-...armored-teslas

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

So in conclusion; ban all marriages! There's no benefit for men, just expenses, debts, emotional trauma, and gold digging.

The rate of marriage has been going down. I won’t comment if some of the above are some of the reasons, but the other half and myself never chose to go down that route ourselves. However as a result, I need to specify exactly what she gets from me when I die (if I go first) because legally she gets nothing automatically. It would go to my father and/or brother depending on who is alive.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

I wish all marriages were illegal or the marriage license can expire, because too many men have had a rough life through marriage because of divorce that screws us royally.

For example, just before my 11th birthday, my mom moved out and I was living the good life then with my dad. She would make up false claims that my dad would come home from a bowling league Wednesday nights drunk as hell and beat her up. I know and still do that was bullcrap, because I was with my dad those nights enjoying the arcade and I do recall my dad not being abusive at all. She was sleeping on the couch, he picks her up and carried her to bed. I found out a few months ago one reason why she left and it's because she wanted more freedom. Freedom? My dad provided her a nice car that she never took care of and ruined it by not changing the oil after she left. The only thing was that she didn't want to go to work, but just live the good life at my dad's expenses. At Christmas time, during their marriage, my mom would go up to the bedroom to cry if she didn't get that one thing from a list of 15 items off her list and put my dad down. What right did she have to request such a long list when she wasn't doing anything to earn it, but because of that one thing she didn't get off her list she let ruin the holiday. When she divorced my dad, it costed him, he told me $50K in lawyers. Then on top of that, my dad lost his job of 20 years during the divorce while taking care of me and a house. So let's be logic with this; if my dad was so horrible towards my mother, then why did I get to live with this so-called abusive man for 40 years while she went off to marry my now stepdad so she can have my sister and avoid work for the past 30 years?

Another example is my older brother's marriage. He married a real looney toon of a wife. The only time I met this woman was Christmas 2014 and she left me with a horrible impression of her when she would forced covered my ears while she was having "girl talk" with my mom. Every time she talked, she would put her hands over her heart and sounded like she was about to cry while talking about herself. That got old fast. Towards the end of their marriage, she would start bashing my brother on Facebook that could of ended his career with lies. Luckily my aunt found it, she told my mom and my mom told my brother and that is when it started to end. Thank god he didn't have any kids with her, otherwise, he would be paying for 18 years of child support with her, and he had no real financial value to pay for alimony.

Then there's all the stories you read about online about all the horrors of marriage and divorce, which is about 99% of men that ended up becoming MGTOW, including me.

So in conclusion; ban all marriages! There's no benefit for men, just expenses, debts, emotional trauma, and gold digging.

You seem to be under the impression everyone has the same experiences you do, we don't. My parents have been married since 1985, so for almost 40 years now, and they're still happily married.

I don't know why 90% of your posts has to do with hating women or thinking men are always the victims.

[ResidentEvil7]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't know why 90% of your posts has to do with hating women or thinking men are always the victims.

Do a little research when you have time by checking out MGTOW videos on YouTube, watch the video and read the comments and you'll see a NeverEnding amount of examples of guys who have had nothing but horrific experiences with modern women. There's guys who say they have lost everything in divorce: money, pension, retirement funds, house, car, the kids, his personal belongings. Yeah, sign me up for that.

Besides, I come from a broken family since 2 weeks before my 11th birthday. I saw and heard a lot of what my mom did to my dad when they were married and I don't accept it. Also, when I was a kid, she used to slap, spank and yell at me every time I didn't behave (you know, behaving like a kid would). If I used a swear word she would put me over her knee, spank me while spelling out the word and every letter was a spank; and then she washed my mouth out with soap. Thank god not liquid soap. Still she gives me a hard time by nagging and bitching about stupid stuff. If I wear sweatpants, she complains, but if my sister comes over with funky rainbow hair, that's acceptable. Why do you think I'm happy this week that she's in Arizona while I'm here in Chicago?; because I don't have her nagging and guilting me over everything and I can chug beer and enjoy some loud metal and techno music late at night, leave my neon lights on all night while I sleep and watch gaming videos.

[IndigoErth]

And a lot of MGTOW types are the opposite side of the SAME coin as the man hating-level of feminist. Saying look at those videos as evidence is like looking at man hater videos for proof of the reverse. Neither are a credible example that should be paid any mind.

Relationship problems take two, no way are most of those guys just totally innocent. Some of them? Sure. Women are human beings, some humans are terrible people for one reason or other and in those cases it really IS her. But no way is that going to be it across the board, plenty of those men are guilty of their own actions.

But if you aren't into women, then what's to worry about? In that case, what are you even going your "own way" from?


Black and white thinking sucks in general though. Like having one bad apple and going "Well, all apples are terrible and deserve to be hated!" Or stuff TMNT puts out... not all has been great, and we might have our criticism, but we're still here.

[ResidentEvil7]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

But if you aren't into women, then what's to worry about? In that case, what are you even going your "own way" from?

Not just the every day woman, but some in my family, female human resources that I ask for a job from, but I get fed poor attitude and let downs. I've also delt with females back in my school years that would go batsh*t crazy in the gym when all I did was asked her to stop talking to her group of friends and play the sport. Another one falsely accused me of wanting to dissect people when all I asked was "what do students in biology college classes dissect" and another student said "humans" but I'm the one who was misunderstood. So sorry that I had nothing but negative experiences with the opposite sex to the point I'd rather hang and have manly fun with the guys in my man cave.

Some of my manly advice I get is from Al Bundy and Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor because I can relate to them that life sucks a big fat one.

[IMJ]

It's a ridiculous ongoing battle of peasant-thinking to even remotely give a $#!( if two gay people get "Married".

And if anyone needs a logical syllogism to make this work in your headmath then simple follow the 'harm principle'. In that people should be free to do what they wish as long as that action doesn't harm anyone else. And so, that premise alone goes to my syllogistic example in that - Marriages are a formal coupling of two adult people. Both gay and straight orientations qualify as "people". Therefore all types of adult people can be married.

There's a lot to argue about, but "gay marriage" is literally not one of them - it's not a logical argument and arguing against it violates the harm principle of rule-making across public administration.

[Mayhem]

Also considering in the UK (I don’t know about the US here) that marriage and civil partnerships have a number of tax and financial benefits that non marrieds do not (introduced decades back as a way to encourage more people to marry), it was only fair that non hetero couples were allowed to marry and have access to the same benefits as straight couples.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by IMJ

It's a ridiculous ongoing battle of peasant-thinking to even remotely give a $#!( if two gay people get "Married".

And if anyone needs a logical syllogism to make this work in your headmath then simple follow the 'harm principle'. In that people should be free to do what they wish as long as that action doesn't harm anyone else. And so, that premise alone goes to my syllogistic example in that - Marriages are a formal coupling of two adult people. Both gay and straight orientations qualify as "people". Therefore all types of adult people can be married.

There's a lot to argue about, but "gay marriage" is literally not one of them - it's not a logical argument and arguing against it violates the harm principle of rule-making across public administration.

Screw the liberal agenda's harm principle which has done a lot to promote homosexuality and degenerate traditional marriage.

I'm calling myself the Far Right Peasent Thinker from now on.

[ToTheNines]

I love homosexuality.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Screw the liberal agenda's harm principle which has done a lot to promote homosexuality and degenerate traditional marriage.

The "Harm Principle" isn't a liberal function. It's a public administrator function born of quasi-experimental design that serves as a component of the litmus test that is done when evaluating a proposed rule for implementation.

Just sayin'....

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by IMJ

The "Harm Principle" isn't a liberal function.

Neither is the U.S. constitution. But both have used to death by Liberals to degrade traditional values.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Neither is the U.S. constitution. But both have used to death by Liberals to degrade traditional values.

Let me ask you a question. How do gay people or their existence threaten or affect you in any way? And you are not allowed to mention the Bible or God here.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Let me ask you a question. How do gay people or their existence threaten or affect you in any way? And you are not allowed to mention the Bible or God here.

Hes "allowed" to respond how he will, especially given your breadth of absolute b******* responses on so many occasions.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Let me ask you a question. How do gay people or their existence threaten or affect you in any way?

Their practices are a demographic threat to a nation being young and strong.

Take a nation of Whites for example. If they were to allow homosexuality, the white people will age as potential parents will be indulging in homosexuality instead of having kids.

When they don't have kids, the white race will collectively then become older and weaker. They might then try to fix the shortage of young people by importing foreign immigrants, but then the original white nation will no longer be recognisable.

Plus, immigration won't address the root of the problem that homosexuality will contribute towards. You can have as many young immigrants as you want, but if many are turning towards homosexuality, then the nation is being denied the future offspring it needs to survive and thrive.

I want my nation to survive and thrive, and I won't tolerate my nation being old and frail because it didn't produce enough offspring.

[Mayhem]

Sorry, I’m laughing through much of that because it’s demonstrably wrong. South Korea and Japan have ludicrously low birth rates currently that threaten ,as you say, the future of the countries in terms of earning potential, which both have nothing to do with being gay. More to do with women realising they are more than just baby machines. More on that in a bit.

Roman and Greek civilisation are full of examples (including I will note, copious references to there being more than two genders, so if you thought that concept was new, think again) and didn’t stop them from becoming magnificent. And neither downfall was to do with being gay either. Poor leadership letting empires fall, as all do eventually, and likely with the US in time, and China. Russia already did which is why Putin is so hellbent on trying to reclaim it.

So, yes, babies. The biggest factors in reducing birthrates in Western countries in general is… female education and being financially independent. And I can see with Muskrat’s constant tweets about needing to make more babies, all the current policies (that started with revoking Roe vs Wade) are hell bent on getting women out of the workforce, back home, and becoming baby making machines again. And women are pushing back on that.

[Barkworm]

You are under the wrong assumption that homosexuality is some sort of choice but that's just fundamentalist propaganda.

[ResidentEvil7]

Homosexuality isn't a choice. It's a preference like anything else you like. I know I didn't choose it, it chose me. It's not all liberal. I'm a conservative Republican myself. So it's not all liberal/progressive.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'll gladly concede gays are not by choice. They can't control how they feel, but they can control who they touch.

And who one touches can create a race (quite literally) or destroy it in the long run.

[Mayhem]

Far more dangerous people in the church or Republican reps to kids…

In other news, apparently anyone can update the doge.gov site

https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-p...gov-website-2/