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I actually don't have an issue with the bodies outside of the legs probably being a bit too short (which I only really noticed after it was pointed out), but otherwise I'm having a hard time finding much to complain about other than the price (which was expected, anyway, and I'm just glad it didn't shoot up again) and the skimpier amount of accessories (I feel like the people that complained about these having too many hands "won", but they were fools for thinking it would have had any effect on the price).
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I see these as sort of like the Playmates classic figures from 2014-ish. When those came out, a lot of us thought those were the best we were going to get - and they were pretty good at the time. But NECA'S toon line (which had a lot of accuracy issues with those earlier figures) came along and really knocked it out of the park with most of what they were doing. I believe the same will happen for 2K3, though not necessarily from NECA and probably not at quite the same level. If you look at the Star Wars prequels, we're just now really reaching the point where the kids that grew up with that are being bitten with the nostalgia bug, and 2K3 was big enough that we should see a similar trend. Quote:
NECA is already overpriced at $30-$35... but 99% of the time you're getting a much better figure for much cheaper. I know the rumor is that the new figures are going to be of better quality... but I'm not sure how much of the poor quality is Brian's fault versus the factory producing these and/or the team actually engineering them. A lot of people are excited about the double joints - which is absolutely fair - but I've owned enough Super7 figures to know that they still struggle with single joints, so I think it's fair to be skeptical about how well they'll pull these off. As an aside, I think Donnie's store page is the best example of how I feel like these are sort of soulless and maybe Super7 doesn't really care about the property. Bow staff? Come on. But also, how hard would it have been to slap just one extra accessory in there? Give Donnie his duffel bag. Give Raph a motorcycle helmet. Mikey could have a couple comics. Leo could have the Sword of Tengu, broken katanas... something. Pizza wasn't a massive focus in the 2K3 series, but you already have pizza sculpted... throw a slice in there. I guess it's possible they just cheaped out on these... but it feels a lot more like they just don't know the IP. Last edited by Y2Josh; 06-23-2024 at 02:56 AM. |
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I'll be optimistic until proven otherwise, but the track record of Super7 has shown us many times over that until you get the final product in your hands, you can't really trust how cool the figure seems based on their promos. Sadly many of their figures have been big let downs for fans, not just in their TMNT line but Silverhawks and many other of their licenses.
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Fortunately, their ThunderCats line has been very solid and their Wingnut and Genghis waves are excellent, so much so that people are only talking about 'seams'. But, most people have not picked up the latter waves, giving a false impression that Super7 didn't learn from their mistakes. I don't think quality assurance has ever been much of an any issue for the TMNT line after they've returned back to the previous factories. I do find these type of comments to be odd, as I have personally had way more issues regarding quality with NECA figures than Super7 figures but I suppose people expect more when they pay more. Last edited by Dask; 06-23-2024 at 11:02 AM. |
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But you hit on an important point, I think the most glaring omission would be a spinning Bo staff. There's high demand for the Pizza Club Donnie for that reason alone. Mikey's spinning chuks look really good, so they could have given Donnie a similar treatment. And, I do think a lot of what they do is strategic. By withholding all these accessories they are allowing for more options down the line when they have to sell variants of the Turtle bros. That's the biggest issue from a Super7 standpoint, they sold all the brothers at once. It's a double edge sword. I would be super excited for characters like Bishop and Hun, but the average 'fan' wont recognize them, hence the reason to repackage turtles again as variants (like what you're seeing with Ninja Nomad Leo). |
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2k3 Mike, Don, and Raph are on Amazon: https://x.com/toybroreviews/status/1...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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To be fair, 2K3 is my favorite animated version of the Turtles by far, but I feel like for the fans of that show that have wanted merchandise forever, there's a solid roster of characters to choose from. Honestly, if they don't break from their "a turtle in every wave" mantra, I don't even know how you do more than one or two meaningful variants of the Turtles while still sticking to the source. And to the quality of NECA versus Super7, I guess it's possible that I've managed to get all the best QC NECA has to offer and all the worst from Super7... but I've had issues with a handful of NECA figures (notably, Android Krang is very difficult to balance), whereas I've had problems of varying degrees with nearly all of Super7's output, and I'm only on the TMNT side of things with them. I know a lot of people have had pretty serious complaints about G.I. Joe, Thundercats, Silverhawks... whatever that Andre the Giant was. A bit all over the place here, but I'm also not sure about the scale on these. They say they're 7" tall (and I'll cede that maybe they aren't)... but if so, where does that leave the humans? They have more room to mess with scale on the Playmates stuff, but the Turtles were short in this series. April was a full head taller, never mind Shredder, Casey, Hun, etc. |
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The bulk of my collection is Fred Wolf, Playmates and the 1990 movie. I loved the Fred Wolf cartoon as a kid, but as an adult... it's nearly unwatchable. Outside of those first five episodes, I really don't enjoy it. But I enjoy all the memories tied to it, so it's really that tug of nostalgia that drives my Fred Wolf collection more than an enduring love for the cartoon. So my assumption is 2K3 would enjoy a similar draw from nostalgia, but with the added benefit of actually being good (even if the fandom is potentially smaller). But again, I could be way off base here, as I loved the show, but didn't actively collect for it. I don't know if it's a placeholder height prior to going into production, but the rest of their products list the actual height of the figure. I just feel like they're going to run into scaling issues if they actually produce the Turtles at 7". |
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The 2k3 turtles actually grew as the series went on - at the beginning, they were 5'2" but by Fast Forward they all grew a few inches. Meanwhile characters like April are 5'7", Casey Jones is 6'1" while Shredder is 6'2" and Splinter is only 4'10". But if you watch the show, scale is all over the place between characters shot to shot. I really hope this line does well enough to get us more characters, but I do worry that the aesthetic will be such a departure that it will firmly feel like a break in the line, like new concept figures like Karai and Ninja Newscaster April. But I would love to have Hun, Bishop and Drako in my collection. |
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From a livestream, they just confirmed these aren't 7 inches, but scaled (and that Kyle even had to resize them a few times), so that answers that.
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For anyone interested, Jay (Geek. Dad. Life.) has Kyle and Brandon from Super7 on tonight, and he's actually asking them harder questions than I'd have expected. After all the nothing burger Veebs interviews, it's pretty refreshing, and I'm kind of enjoying it. Definitely worth checking out, and there's a lot of good info in there. Notably, both the front and back of the shell and the belt are a soft plastic overlay and they're hoping to have prototypes at SDCC. And they've answered a lot of the questions people have had here about longevity, scale, etc. I still don't have a super high opinion of the company (and their QC definitely needs work)... but watching this interview has me wondering how much of that is just due to my generally unfavorable impression of Brian and his propensity for... not being particularly truthful, to put it politely. |
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Honestly, Brian's been trying my patience for a good while now, too. I vibe a lot more with Kyle, from what I've seen, but Brian's credibility has gone down the drain for me.
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But this is easily the highest opinion I've had of Super7 in a long time, and I now definitely don't understand the sparse accessories because, these two at least, really seemed to know the show. |
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Highlights from the interview:
Geekdadlife - figures have already been 3D printed for articulation engineering - Headbands are swappable between heads - This is wave 12, back to vintage wave 13. - “The first action figure costs us $112,000. The second one is a dollar.” - Prototypes should be at SDCC - and the preorder window got moved so people can see them in person and then preorder them! - Shell is a soft overlay, have chest and waist articulation underneath. - Belt is flexible, so Raph and Mike can store weapons on the sides. - If these sell well, this articulation can be adapted to more Ultimates - Talking about secondary market… “we pay attention to it. Our sales team does monitor it for re-issues.” - “This is the beginning of 2000s nostalgia.” - “I’m 34 and I am the target market for these kinds of toys.” - Kyle - “They scale appropriately to their appearance in the cartoon” in regard to Cowboy of Moo Mesa - “We had to do quite a bit of math.” Regarding scale. These are 7 inch scale, turtles are 5 feet 6 inches (this is wrong but I get it) - Kyle mocked up a sexy Pizza Face as a joke. |
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Just got the “confirm your shipping address” email for Wave 10!
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EE has Classic Rocker Leo, Ninja April, and Mirage Casey in stock: https://www.entertainmentearth.com/s...ium=affiliates
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So did I, but weirdly, not for all the figures I ordered. Karai isn't shipping for me. I wonder if it's related to how I originally had Rat King in the order, and then later on ended up having them change it over to Karai once Rat King got moved up to the next wave. At least the e-mail does specify that "some items in your order are on the way", so I guess Karai's just gonna ship later for me or something.
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Curious to see how Karai turns out since the real photo of her shows off some softgoods that weren’t in the render but were in her description. Also can’t wait to see her alternate head. |
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