The Technodrome Forums

Go Back   The Technodrome Forums > General Forums > General Discussion > Current Events

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-12-2018, 10:30 AM   #1
Autbot_Benz
Hellblazer
 
Autbot_Benz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ventura California
Posts: 8,279
Trump's Former Lawyer Michael Cohen sentenced to 3 Years in prison

Donald Trump's longtime “fixer” and personal attorney has been sentenced to to 36 months (3 years) in federal prison, plus an additional 3 years of supervised release, in a case in the Southern District of New York.

Judge William H. Pauley of SDNY also sentenced Cohen to 2 months for lying to Congress, to be served concurrently to his primary 36-month sentence.

He also issued an order for $500,000 in forfeiture, payment of $1.39 million in back taxes, and a $50,000 fine.

Judge Paule ordered an additional $50,000 fine for lying to Congress. There are additional terms of imprisonment but all will be served by Cohen concurrently.

Cohen will be able to voluntarily surrender, he was not taken into custody as the hearing ended.

Federal prosecutors asked for a "substantial" prison sentence of about 3 and a half years. Cohen asked for time served. He could face up to five years, based on sentencing guidelines for his crimes.

“We respectfully submit that the case calls for a full consideration of mercy,” Michael Cohen's defense attorney Guy Petrillo said during the hearing.

Petrillo argued that Cohen should receive a lenient sentence in part because Cohen “came forward to offer evidence” against Trump.

"I don't really understand the strident tone of the memo,” Petrillo said, referring to the Southern District of New York's filing.

Implying that his connection to Trump was the reason for the strident tone, Petrillo added, “Mr. Cohen had the misfortune to be counsel to the president.”

This, of course, implies that Cohen's position at Trump's side was not something over which Cohen had any choice.

Petrillo then went on to tell the court that Cohen would be willing to cooperate with ongoing investigations, but that “he is wary of a long term cooperation agreement for personal reasons, and because he wants both to remove himself and his family from the glare of the cameras.”

So, Cohen is unwilling to cooperate.

Petrillo then told the court Cohen could not have anticipated the “full measure of attack that would made against him” by President Trump and supporters, “and those attacks include threats against his family.”

Cohen's attorney ended his remarks asking the judge for leniency: “He's a very good man.”

Speaking for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Office, prosecutor Jeannie S. Rhee told the court Cohen provided "credible" and "valuable information" regarding "any links between a campaign and a foreign government."

"Mr. Cohen has sought to tell us the truth," Rhee said.

Rhee also said that Cohen provided information to Mueller's team related to the core Russia-related issues under investigation, but due to the nature of those investigations, declined to further detail.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Nicolas Roos of the Southern District of New York next argued that Cohen's actions harmed the interests of "free and transparent elections, and in committing these crimes, Cohen has eroded faith in the electoral process."

“Deception, brazenness, and greed,” is how SDNY's Roos then described Cohen's conduct, reminding the court of his interference with the election, and long history of willful tax cheating, among other shady business.

Michael Cohen then stood to speak at the podium, from a prepared statement.

From his speech:

"Today is the day that I am getting my freedom back."

"I have been living in a personal and mental incarceration ever since the day that I accepted the offer to work for a real estate mogul whose business acumen that I deeply admired."

“I stand before your honor humbly and painfully aware that we are here for one reason.”

“I take full responsibility for each act that I pleaded guilty to,” including those implicating the “President of the United States of America.”

"Today is one of the most meaning days of my life."

My "weakness was a blind loyalty to Donald Trump."

"I have chosen this unorthodox path because the sooner that I am sentenced," the sooner I can return to my family.

"I do not need a cooperation agreement in place to do the right thing."

He then mentions his family members, by name, and says he brought pain and shame on his family. Mentions his mom, dad, and children, and says to them "I'm sorry." Long pause.

"The president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world," Cohen said mockingly, "calling me a rat."

He said Trump tried to influence the proceedings that "implicate" him.

He apologized again to his family before wrapping up. His voice cracked with apparent emotion, as he apologizes to "the people of the United States" for lying to us.

"You deserve to know the truth and lying to you was unjust."

Cohen then sat down.

Then, the sentence was imposed.

Judge Pauley spoke about the "smorgasboard" of crimes involving "deception" and motivated by "personal greed and ambition.”

Quoting Oliver Wendell Holmes, Judge Pauley said of the tax-evasion charges against Cohen, "Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

He said Cohen admitted that he made the illicit hush-money payments "at the coordination with and the direction of Individual-1."

"Each of these crimes standing alone warrant considerable punishment."

Pauley then reviewed Cohen's life, up to the time he began working for the Trump Organization.

"He thrived on his access to wealthy and powerful people, and he became one himself," he says.

Pauley says "the need for general deterrents is amplified in this case."

Pauley, who is from Long Island, adds that Cohen had a "comfortable childhood and had all the comforts of growing up in an upper middle class suburb on Long Island."

Somewhere along the way, however, Pauley says Cohen "lost his moral compass" and chose to "monetize" his closeness to the rich and powerful, via Trump.

Pauley then references the statement from Mueller's team at the Special Counsel's Office that Cohen cooperated on "core topics under investigation," and that the information that he has provided was "relevant and useful."

"Our system of justice would be less robust without the use of cooperating agreements with law enforcement."

Regarding the tax evasion, campaign finance, and false statement charges: "As a lawyer, Mr. Cohen should have known better," Pauley said.

Cohen's cooperation "does not wipe the slate clean."

"This court ... believes a significant term of imprisonment" is justified.

Man Trump Can't stop winning with all these former people he hired

https://boingboing.net/2018/12/12/mi...ced-to-36.html
__________________
I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.
Autbot_Benz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2018, 10:36 AM   #2
Andrew NDB
Weed Whacker
 
Andrew NDB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 29,256
To sum it up... none of this remotely effects Trump or has anything to do with him and not a shred of Russian collusion came out of it. Trump's old shi*ty lawyer goes down for doing shi*ty things. Meaningless.

"Implies this," "implies that" nothing. More of the same.
Andrew NDB is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2018, 11:44 AM   #3
FredWolfLeonardo
Big Blue Boy Scout
 
FredWolfLeonardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: New Bark Town
Posts: 4,474
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew NDB View Post
To sum it up... none of this remotely effects Trump or has anything to do with him and not a shred of Russian collusion came out of it. Trump's old shi*ty lawyer goes down for doing shi*ty things. Meaningless.

"Implies this," "implies that" nothing. More of the same.
Pretty much.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 View Post
The biggest villains were the censors. What they could do without being held back is my question.

Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building. I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue.

Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
FredWolfLeonardo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2018, 11:47 AM   #4
IndigoErth
Team Blue Boy
 
IndigoErth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: U.S., East Coast
Posts: 15,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz View Post
Man Trump Can't stop winning with all these former people he hired
I guess when you supposedly only hire "the best," but clearly have no real idea what "best" even is... Ah well.
IndigoErth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2018, 12:01 PM   #5
Candy Kappa
The Agenda of Existing
 
Candy Kappa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vikingland
Posts: 14,596
Individual-1 can't stop WINNING!
Candy Kappa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2018, 12:14 PM   #6
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
Annalist
 
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 16,435
Yawn.

Stupid Watergate continues to be stupid.
__________________
ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2018, 12:20 PM   #7
Candy Kappa
The Agenda of Existing
 
Candy Kappa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vikingland
Posts: 14,596
Stupid Watergate will beat Watergate, that investigation only lasted for over 2 years. Individual-1 sets for 3 years at least, and he's gonna party with some hooker wee and spraytan coupons, and finish off with some in-bed cheeseburgers.

Marvelous
Candy Kappa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2018, 01:16 PM   #8
Autbot_Benz
Hellblazer
 
Autbot_Benz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ventura California
Posts: 8,279
Quote:
Originally Posted by Candy Kappa View Post
Stupid Watergate will beat Watergate, that investigation only lasted for over 2 years. Individual-1 sets for 3 years at least, and he's gonna party with some hooker wee and spraytan coupons, and finish off with some in-bed cheeseburgers.

Marvelous
how is Individual-1 gonna silence those hookers without his fixer to pay them
__________________
I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.
Autbot_Benz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2018, 02:28 PM   #9
IndigoErth
Team Blue Boy
 
IndigoErth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: U.S., East Coast
Posts: 15,237
Hopefully not the way his buddies Putin or Rocket Man would...
IndigoErth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 04:55 PM   #10
BartAllen
Banned
 
BartAllen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 922
It's a shame people don't know that Obama did some pretty shady stuff with his campaign finances when he was initially elected as president.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...egal-donations


But Trump using his own money to pay off an ugly woman he slept with is worse than what Obummer did -- I guess.

Fine Trump for his shenanigans and then move past this.

Oh, and there was no collusion and there was no hacking of the election.
BartAllen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 05:50 PM   #11
Leo656
The Franchise
 
Leo656's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: nWo Country
Posts: 27,696
It's just really comical to me, because all this, "I HATE _______, I simply can't rest until I see them punished or otherwise inconvenienced in some way, BECAUSE I HATE THEM!" stuff is all wasted energy that could be better served elsewhere.

It's good to hate and mistrust your government. They're not your friends, and so it's wise to always have one eye on them.

But the daily obsession stuff a lot of people have really needs to stop. "Oh, my GOD, shady motherf*ckers in suits and ties don't play by the rules! I mean, I know that's exactly how power is gained in the first place, but I thought for SURE that once they were in office they'd walk the straight and narrow! Surely!"

So many angry people. Meanwhile, when you're like me, you just laugh at it all because it's hilarious. Carnies being Carnies, and Marks being Marks.

I hope this guy sticks around forever. Just for the entertainment value.
__________________

"I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder...
I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..."

"But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know."
nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA
https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/
Leo656 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 07:25 PM   #12
Cure
Y'all need Jesus
 
Cure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,938
That is the most hypocritical **** you've ever said, and you say hypocritical **** a lot. You are the KING of hating **** and wasting energy going on and on and on about how much you hate it.
__________________
Cure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 08:00 PM   #13
Leo656
The Franchise
 
Leo656's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: nWo Country
Posts: 27,696
Aaaaand you're the king of only ever posting to try and play stupid "Gotcha!" nonsense with me. If I sent this whole forum on a scavenger hunt, they couldn't find 20 posts by you in the last 5 years that weren't To me or About me. Paaaaaaathetic.

Get a new hobby, midget. After almost 15 years it's starting to look like you've got nothing to do and nothing of value to say.

Aaaaaaaaaaand ALL of those things I talk about are WAY more important than "OMG I hate the President he's a big meanie" or whatever. What politicians do isn't important enough for anyone to whine about. "They f*ck you, same as yesterday." No sense being eternally pissed about things that have been and will be true forever. People need better priorities. Absolute truth.

I'm serious, though, the hate-crush thing is f*cking creepy and annoying. It's bad enough I share a state with you. Now, for the 500th time... Go. AWAY.
__________________

"I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder...
I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..."

"But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know."
nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA
https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/
Leo656 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
dirty rotten scoundrels, smocking gun, smoking gun


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.