TMNT: Out of the Shadows Review - Page 2

*Leo656* · 08-30-2013, 02:04 PM

I must be in the minority because even though the camera isn't perfect I'm hesitant to call it a negative. Yes, you have to adjust it quite frequently, but I can't even count the number of good games I've played since 1996 where the camera was shaky. At least you CAN adjust it, whereas in some games you can't. Super Mario 64 is maybe the only 3D action game I've played where the camera was as smooth as I could hope for. No, I don't play every popular game so I can't speak in general, but this game's camera is no worse (or better) than a hundred other games I've played.

I've just kind of accepted "constantly fiddle with the camera" to be part of the package with modern 3D action games, just like "hit the Jump button 3 times and if you're lucky one of those presses will actually make you jump" was a common theme back in the 8-bit days.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-30-2013, 04:02 PM

I guess I never adapted. While you guys were learning how to play Mario 64 and doom I was playing the latest version of street fighter. Playing this game reminded me of playing left for dead with my gf. She was kicking ass while I was lost most of the time and fighting with the camera.

*Ninjinister* · 08-30-2013, 04:14 PM

Yeah, I too, struggle with the camera in most games where there is one, because I play more fighting games than anything else ._.

*Powder* · 08-30-2013, 04:28 PM

I'm not well versed in these kinds of games either. I mostly play sidescrolling platformer games & stuff.

*Leo656* · 08-30-2013, 04:39 PM

I guess I can see that, because I'm the opposite, I rarely play fighting games (more wrestling games than anything), and other than wrestling games I do play a ton of 3D action/platformers. Some games do it better than others, for sure. But it's just part of the package with those kind of games, having to flick the camera every few seconds. I don't even notice it anymore, even in games like Kingdom Hearts where it's pretty bad. The Sonic games have pretty bad camera problems, too. Ya get used to it. If there was a way to make it work perfectly someone would have done it by now, and made a fortune selling it to every other developer.

Honestly, this game's camera is entirely average compared to similar games I've played. But I can see how if someone doesn't play these games a lot it might seem worse. That's one of those things that I just gave up on years ago, a game's camera. I can't imagine how hard it must be to design a 3D action game and be able to make the camera work. Maybe that's why I care less, I'm just glad it's not MY job to do it!

Tazi · 08-30-2013, 04:53 PM

The biggest problem with the camera is the fact that how close it is the player character. Sure, the 3d models look awesome, but I'd rather see some of the surroundings too, when try to navigate, not just a detailed turtleshell made out of poligons.
I had pretty awful bugs coming out right at the beginning. Stucking in the wall, never disappearing message boxes, and a message box I can't skip in any way, freezing the game.
I'm not even finished the first level yet, thanks to that.

And I'll be honest, I torrented it, because I wanted to see, what I'd get for my money (having no demos these days, sucks hard). Since then, I deleted it, but I'm not really sure if I even wanna buy it, especially how many better games are there for 15 euro. (tho I'll probably ending up buying it, because it's still an awesome fanservice, and the gameplay was kinda fun, when it worked)

Oh and seriously, **** the eur15 price, it's not the same as $15 or GBP 10, it's about 15% more.

Sanjuro · 08-31-2013, 10:54 AM

I gave it a solid 2.

This game is a perfect example of worst case scenarios coming true. Utterly a mess. Either rushed or didn't care that the game is largely broken and unpolished.

*MrTMNT2012* · 08-31-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanjuro

I gave it a solid 2.

This game is a perfect example of worst case scenarios coming true. Utterly a mess. Either rushed or didn't care that the game is largely broken and unpolished.

Oh wow, that was a very well thought out review. I can understand your point of view because of all the problems you mentioned....

Seriously, the only thing worse than people destroying the game is people that have no reason to do so!

Sanjuro · 08-31-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Oh wow, that was a very well thought out review. I can understand your point of view because of all the problems you mentioned....

Seriously, the only thing worse than people destroying the game is people that have no reason to do so!

There are plenty of reasons...most of which have been mentioned already.

- Games art style is atrocious, needlessly dark.
- No sense of direction or goals.
- Silly unlocking game which is broken during co-op.
- Awful netcode. Nearly impossible to get a stable and consistent online multiplayer game.
- Lack of polish. Have fallen through the level, objects, stuck in spots in the first level alone.
- Combat is broken and not fluid whatsoever.
- Voice acting is terrible.
- Story is told using Sonic the Hedgehog fan-fiction artists.

Can keep going on...

*The Stryker* · 08-31-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Oh wow, that was a very well thought out review. I can understand your point of view because of all the problems you mentioned....

Seriously, the only thing worse than people destroying the game is people that have no reason to do so!

Why the hell are you so defensive over this? You're like someone is insulting your mother.

*CyberCubed* · 08-31-2013, 01:03 PM

There have been plenty of bad 3D Turtle games. Nearly everything made from 2003 till now.

The only good games made were the GBA titles of TMNT 1 and 2, 3 was for DS, and the 2007 movie game for GBA.

Turtles only works in 2D.

Sanjuro · 08-31-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

There have been plenty of bad 3D Turtle games. Nearly everything made from 2003 till now.

The only good games made were the GBA titles of TMNT 1 and 2, 3 was for DS, and the 2007 movie game for GBA.

Turtles only works in 2D.

I don't agree with the "only works in 2D", but there have been plenty of bad games. What stands out about this one is the general lack of effort put into the actual release, where most of the others were simply bad games or just didn't work.

Peanut · 08-31-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanjuro

- Story is told using Sonic the Hedgehog fan-fiction artists.

Hahahaha! That one got me.

Raphael232 · 08-31-2013, 01:34 PM

well this sucks, ill wait for some reviews for sites like IGN and Gamespot before Im sure to buy it.

Tazi · 08-31-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Raphael232

well this sucks, ill wait for some reviews for sites like IGN and Gamespot before Im sure to buy it.

I don't think those are credible sources of reviews...

This one much better, you can view overall combined score after media reviews, and fan reviews too:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-...of-the-shadows
(the site is kinda rotten tomatoes, but for video games)

Btw, I don't know what's the problem with the graphics, I think it's the best part of the game other than the music. It's dark as it should be, but has colors, instead of grey or brown, like lot of those boring ass AAA games. It looks awesome! And honestly, the only "problem" with the turtles' look are the nostrils, and it's only disturbing, because they don't have them since 25 years, yet it's about a hundred percent reasonable to have them. My favourite argument against them is the "bad designs, they look like lizards now!". Oh god, please... turtles are goddamn lizards!

*Allio* · 08-31-2013, 02:04 PM

meh...I'll play the game and form my own opinion on it

after all, no one knows what I like more than me, right?

*MrTMNT2012* · 08-31-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Raphael232

well this sucks, ill wait for some reviews for sites like IGN and Gamespot before Im sure to buy it.

Just wait for BlackNerd's review. He's earned his TMNT cred and can actually enjoy a good game when he sees one and give a honest review unlike some people....

*Cure* · 08-31-2013, 02:12 PM

Hahaha, oh my God. "TMNT cred". Amazing.

Sanjuro · 08-31-2013, 02:15 PM

I'll take your "TMNT cred" and throw it into the river...well...the part where I can throw things in.

*The Stryker* · 08-31-2013, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Just wait for BlackNerd's review. He's earned his TMNT cred and can actually enjoy a good game when he sees one and give a honest review unlike some people....

Wait wait wait wait....

Are you seriously implying that the people that had problems with or didn't like the game aren't being honest? That they're just lying about their experiences?

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08-30-2013, 02:04 PM	#21
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	I must be in the minority because even though the camera isn't perfect I'm hesitant to call it a negative. Yes, you have to adjust it quite frequently, but I can't even count the number of good games I've played since 1996 where the camera was shaky. At least you CAN adjust it, whereas in some games you can't. Super Mario 64 is maybe the only 3D action game I've played where the camera was as smooth as I could hope for. No, I don't play every popular game so I can't speak in general, but this game's camera is no worse (or better) than a hundred other games I've played. I've just kind of accepted "constantly fiddle with the camera" to be part of the package with modern 3D action games, just like "hit the Jump button 3 times and if you're lucky one of those presses will actually make you jump" was a common theme back in the 8-bit days. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

08-30-2013, 04:02 PM	#22
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 14,030	I guess I never adapted. While you guys were learning how to play Mario 64 and doom I was playing the latest version of street fighter. Playing this game reminded me of playing left for dead with my gf. She was kicking ass while I was lost most of the time and fighting with the camera. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

08-30-2013, 04:14 PM	#23
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,314	Yeah, I too, struggle with the camera in most games where there is one, because I play more fighting games than anything else ._. __________________

08-30-2013, 04:28 PM	#24
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,813	I'm not well versed in these kinds of games either. I mostly play sidescrolling platformer games & stuff. __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

08-30-2013, 04:39 PM	#25
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	I guess I can see that, because I'm the opposite, I rarely play fighting games (more wrestling games than anything), and other than wrestling games I do play a ton of 3D action/platformers. Some games do it better than others, for sure. But it's just part of the package with those kind of games, having to flick the camera every few seconds. I don't even notice it anymore, even in games like Kingdom Hearts where it's pretty bad. The Sonic games have pretty bad camera problems, too. Ya get used to it. If there was a way to make it work perfectly someone would have done it by now, and made a fortune selling it to every other developer. Honestly, this game's camera is entirely average compared to similar games I've played. But I can see how if someone doesn't play these games a lot it might seem worse. That's one of those things that I just gave up on years ago, a game's camera. I can't imagine how hard it must be to design a 3D action game and be able to make the camera work. Maybe that's why I care less, I'm just glad it's not MY job to do it! __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

08-30-2013, 04:53 PM	#26
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	The biggest problem with the camera is the fact that how close it is the player character. Sure, the 3d models look awesome, but I'd rather see some of the surroundings too, when try to navigate, not just a detailed turtleshell made out of poligons. I had pretty awful bugs coming out right at the beginning. Stucking in the wall, never disappearing message boxes, and a message box I can't skip in any way, freezing the game. I'm not even finished the first level yet, thanks to that. And I'll be honest, I torrented it, because I wanted to see, what I'd get for my money (having no demos these days, sucks hard). Since then, I deleted it, but I'm not really sure if I even wanna buy it, especially how many better games are there for 15 euro. (tho I'll probably ending up buying it, because it's still an awesome fanservice, and the gameplay was kinda fun, when it worked) Oh and seriously, **** the eur15 price, it's not the same as $15 or GBP 10, it's about 15% more. __________________ Last edited by Tazi; 08-30-2013 at 05:03 PM.

08-31-2013, 10:54 AM	#27
Sanjuro Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 598	I gave it a solid 2. This game is a perfect example of worst case scenarios coming true. Utterly a mess. Either rushed or didn't care that the game is largely broken and unpolished.

08-31-2013, 01:03 PM	#31
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,085	There have been plenty of bad 3D Turtle games. Nearly everything made from 2003 till now. The only good games made were the GBA titles of TMNT 1 and 2, 3 was for DS, and the 2007 movie game for GBA. Turtles only works in 2D.

08-31-2013, 01:34 PM	#34
Raphael232 Thug Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 72	well this sucks, ill wait for some reviews for sites like IGN and Gamespot before Im sure to buy it. __________________

08-31-2013, 02:04 PM	#36
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,087	meh...I'll play the game and form my own opinion on it after all, no one knows what I like more than me, right? __________________

08-31-2013, 02:12 PM	#38
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Hahaha, oh my God. "TMNT cred". Amazing. __________________

08-31-2013, 02:15 PM	#39
Sanjuro Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 598	I'll take your "TMNT cred" and throw it into the river...well...the part where I can throw things in.