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In general, SE always said it will be a remake with modern graphics and bells and whistles. People who expected "slightly better graphics, but everything else being the same" were dumb to expect that. RejectEra is like the worst place to get any impressions about success or failure of games. This place is a concentrated combination of boomers and SJW autism - they sometimes not aware of popular games and think that some hits were failures and vice versa. And since they are boomers and fanboys, no different that their 4Chan counterparts, they are heavily biased towards some games. Last edited by Sumac; 06-16-2021 at 04:34 AM. |
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06-16-2021, 04:25 AM | #62 |
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And guaranteed when this is done, things will go straight away into a full-on FF VII-2.
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06-16-2021, 04:58 AM | #63 |
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By the time they get to the endgame content, we won't even need it. The world will actually BE a cyberpunk dystopia by then and we could all just as well simply go outside.
It's whatever, I'm sure it's fun and I'm sure it did well for them. I still think it's a massive overreach and they could have done just as well without such a monumental effort that's going to take them the next hundred years to complete, if they ever actually do. And I think if for whatever reason they end up abandoning the project before they get to the endgame content, they're gonna look stupid and everybody's gonna say, "See? Shouldn't have done it like that." But then I'm an all-around "work smarter, not harder" kinda guy. Like seriously, I legit can't see this thing being "completed" before I'm 50. That's... irritating. Not saying they should have gone and half-assed it or anything, but I'm reasonably certain that most people would have gladly settled for something much less ambitious than what this project has turned into. I'd love to know how much of this is from people actually ASKING Square/Enix to do it this specific way, and how much of it is SE just being themselves.
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06-16-2021, 09:12 AM | #64 |
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As long as it won't fizzle out like Metal Gear Solid or Castlevania series, I am OK with waiting for the series I like to continue.
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06-16-2021, 01:00 PM | #65 |
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FF7 is a franchise in itself. The remake takes 50 hours to beat so it's not like they released a 10 hour game. It's most likely going to be a trilogy, so we'll get Part 2 in 2023, and then Part 3 around 2 years after. So it'll all be done during the PS5 generation which is reasonable.
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06-16-2022, 04:46 PM | #66 |
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So Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2 is called "Rebirth." Comes out not this Winter, but NEXT Winter.
Ugh.
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06-19-2022, 08:40 PM | #67 |
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FF 7 is my favorite game of all time, but I want nothing to do with the remake. They did so much wrong that I don't even want to list all of my criticisms. I hate seeing legacies get crapped on with bad or uncreative material. I wish they would have never revived it just like dragonball z with super. Sometimes dead is better.
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06-20-2022, 04:25 AM | #68 |
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So is the remake "trilogy" eventually going to be sold in on package, so to speak? Because if that's case I might want to wait... And get a bigger SSD if it's going to take up over 300 GB of data...
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06-20-2022, 08:48 AM | #69 |
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Wait like 7 years for part 3 to be done? I guess you can if you want to.
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06-21-2022, 05:33 AM | #70 |
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I doubt it. It's basically 3 full games and it won't be done till 2026. So then wait till 2030 for a collection or so? lol
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06-21-2022, 06:17 AM | #71 |
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I maintain that all they ever needed to do was take the original game, tighten up the graphics of the in-game a little bit and tack on some updated, "Advent Children"-style cutscenes complete with voice acting, and they'd sell the same amount of copies while doing 1000% less work (and spending 1000x less money).
Instead they're taking 15 years and spending a fortune just to break even. Glad it's not MY money. This is the dumbest "remake" project ever. Totally and needlessly overthought. Nobody outside of Square ever thought, "Boy, what if someone made FF7 like a 'modern' game? Better yet, what if it took over a decade to come out in its entirety?" I keep forgetting this was even a thing. And I loved the original, so ostensibly I should be the "target audience" for this thing. But most all of my friends who played it hated it and say it misses the entire point, and I'll probably be dead by the time they get to the endgame section anyway. So I just can't be bothered to care.
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From what I've seen character personalities captured perfectly and even though I am not fun of JRPGs and Anime tropes, I must admit, even I was rather interested in it. Wasn't that the whole point of the game? I mean, besides, some eco-terrorist ******** spiel about evil corporations, genocidal aliens and the like? |
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This is just more FF XV with FF VII skins. People don't want that. They want a game like the original FF VII and older FF games. Square just can't get the awful trajectory out of their heads about making things more like a movie that you barely steer which, ironically, started showing its face during the original FF VII ("ooh! we can do FMV movie sequences now!" and look what that led to). Quote:
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I just know if they keep Aerith alive and kill off Tifa at the end of this 3 Part Remake, then I’m done with their FF games.
Ok probably not since I haven’t played a FF game after X-2 but it would be the dumbest thing ever if they kill off Tifa and keep Aerith alive. If they wanna keep Aerith alive then fine but don’t do it at Tifa’s expense just to please certain shippers. |
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What if the goal was NOT to deliver the same experience? Have you thought about it? Besides, there is no to give the same experience with a game remade from scratch 30 years after release of the original. It would have been different. It MUST have been different. Otherwise, there is no point. Quote:
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Tell that to the Resident Evil 2 and 3 and upcoming 4 remakes. I guess there was no point to those at all.
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I mean there's nothing wrong with anyone liking what they're doing, but the fact remains, it's not what anyone actually asked them to do and if they'd just taken "the easy way" everyone would already have the game they originally asked for and Square-Enix would already be counting their millions.
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Resident Evil 2 and 3 weren't exactly faithful remakes and Resident Evil 4 has already been described as a reimagining.
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DLC cancelation most likely has something to do with SE inner politics, which is a known shitshow. Quote:
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