Episode discussion: "Enter The Dragons" Part 1

*ToTheNines* · 04-25-2008, 06:23 PM

Well, this is it (almost). Don't remember how my initial youtube viewing of this one went, but one of the things that ruined The Lost Season for me happened in this very episode.

*ToTheNines* · 04-26-2008, 09:01 AM

Wow, probably my favorite lost season episode (not saying too much tho).

Main Pros:
Tight fights
Nice Casey/April Moment

Main Cons:
Never realized how much I hate Huns new voice
Sentry's character design fluctuated
ACOLYTES!!

*Warhorse* · 04-26-2008, 09:02 AM

And what was it that almost ruined the Lost Season for you?

*ToTheNines* · 04-26-2008, 09:10 AM

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And what was it that almost ruined the Lost Season for you?

The fact that:

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...just seemed really unnecessary.

maryshine · 04-26-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

The fact that:

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...just seemed really unnecessary.

As much as I love the lost season, I too hated that as well. I know it is a kid's show, but come on! The writers should have never put the acolytes in the series. The face that

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was also unnecessary and very annoying. I just hope they don’t have either groups come back next season!

*gobo* · 04-26-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Main Cons:
Never realized how much I hate Huns new voice

He's only ACTING the role of a con.

But, it's still Greg Carey (same Hun as ever).

*VaughnMichael* · 04-26-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by maryshine

As much as I love the lost season, I too hated that as well. I know it is a kid's show, but come on! The writers should have never put the acolytes in the series. The face that

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was also unnecessary and very annoying. I just hope they don’t have either groups come back next season!

I'm with the both of you and couldn't agree more.

*Drtooth* · 04-26-2008, 10:26 AM

And yet, when in any given soap opera, when it turns out whoever died was someone's brother's something or other, and they were actually in a coma, it seems natural.

Personally, I would have wrote that they had to pretend to be dead to get the drop on the Mystics. Would have made a little more sense, anyway.

But very intense episode. Seems like this and the next would have been perfect for the last episode of the series completely.

One more thing... who cracked up when Hun gave a girly moan when Shredder tossed him?

*ToTheNines* · 04-26-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

Seems like this and the next would have been perfect for the last episode of the series completely.

One more thing... who cracked up when Hun gave a girly moan when Shredder tossed him?

No way! The series can't end in a technicolor saiyan blast orgy, it needs to be a straight up epic ninja battle.

And while I didn't crack up, I thought my ears were playing tricks on me

*Revan* · 04-26-2008, 07:13 PM

Ok episode. I've said it before but I think it's strange the as the turtles gather as many allies as possible, even resorting to Karai and the foot, they don't ask Leatherhead to fight with them.

*Scandia* · 04-26-2008, 07:35 PM

I wonder if this is because Leatherhead is so unpredictable and thus so unreliable. Not that it is his fault. I think this may be the reason why he was not invited to come to the Christmas gathering in season 3. Since he cannot control his temper and can become so destructive without wanting to, he may not be the most useful ally if things have to be strategically calculated.

*CyberCubed* · 04-26-2008, 08:07 PM

Doesn't Leatherhead still hate Bishop or Baxter?

Him being here could cause him to go out of control and attack their allies, its best they didn't include him.

*Revan* · 04-26-2008, 08:24 PM

I suppose that makes sense. He definately would have been a big help though.

I would have to agree though that bringing dead characters back is a bit of a gutless cop out

*oldmanwinters* · 04-26-2008, 09:15 PM

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I would have to agree though that bringing dead characters back is a bit of a gutless cop out

Heh, very much in tune with the Dragonball Z-ish tone of this season, IMO.

*VaughnMichael* · 04-26-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

I wonder if this is because Leatherhead is so unpredictable and thus so unreliable. Not that it is his fault. I think this may be the reason why he was not invited to come to the Christmas gathering in season 3. Since he cannot control his temper and can become so destructive without wanting to, he may not be the most useful ally if things have to be strategically calculated.

Or the fact that his voice actor went missing...

*Ninjinister* · 04-26-2008, 10:21 PM

I'd like to get a good image of Stockman's wheelchair 'o doom. It reminded me of the giant mecha that he used during his siege on The Shredder way back in Season One.

Casual Matt · 04-26-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Heh, very much in tune with the Dragonball Z-ish tone of this season, IMO.

Except without the magical wish granting life restoring Dragon Balls... which makes it a little more confusing.

*Drtooth* · 04-27-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

No way! The series can't end in a technicolor saiyan blast orgy, it needs to be a straight up epic ninja battle.

It does seem like the cliched anime ending. Bringing all the old characters they can back, even to just wave at the characters. The big battle against an ultimate evil...Clearly what they were going for.

Though I agree that an all out Return of the Shredder/ Return to New York style ninja Battle would work better for the tone of the series. But unlike FF, things didn't wind up petering out (no pun intended, but makes sense if you think about it) when they canned it mid-series.

*Scandia* · 04-27-2008, 08:34 AM

A voice actor can be replaced. Better than to pull a Chuck Cunningham and have an important character disappear.

*Ninjinister* · 04-27-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

A voice actor can be replaced. Better than to pull a Chuck Cunningham and have an important character disappear.

Leatherhead went upstairs with a basketball and never came back down again?

04-25-2008, 06:23 PM	#1
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	Episode discussion: "Enter The Dragons" Part 1 Well, this is it (almost). Don't remember how my initial youtube viewing of this one went, but one of the things that ruined The Lost Season for me happened in this very episode.

04-26-2008, 10:26 AM	#8
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	And yet, when in any given soap opera, when it turns out whoever died was someone's brother's something or other, and they were actually in a coma, it seems natural. Personally, I would have wrote that they had to pretend to be dead to get the drop on the Mystics. Would have made a little more sense, anyway. But very intense episode. Seems like this and the next would have been perfect for the last episode of the series completely. One more thing... who cracked up when Hun gave a girly moan when Shredder tossed him? __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

04-26-2008, 07:13 PM	#10
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Ok episode. I've said it before but I think it's strange the as the turtles gather as many allies as possible, even resorting to Karai and the foot, they don't ask Leatherhead to fight with them. __________________

04-26-2008, 07:35 PM	#11
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I wonder if this is because Leatherhead is so unpredictable and thus so unreliable. Not that it is his fault. I think this may be the reason why he was not invited to come to the Christmas gathering in season 3. Since he cannot control his temper and can become so destructive without wanting to, he may not be the most useful ally if things have to be strategically calculated. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

04-26-2008, 08:24 PM	#13
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	I suppose that makes sense. He definately would have been a big help though. I would have to agree though that bringing dead characters back is a bit of a gutless cop out __________________

04-26-2008, 09:01 AM	#2
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	Wow, probably my favorite lost season episode (not saying too much tho). Main Pros: Tight fights Nice Casey/April Moment Main Cons: Never realized how much I hate Huns new voice Sentry's character design fluctuated ACOLYTES!!

04-26-2008, 09:02 AM	#3
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,537	And what was it that almost ruined the Lost Season for you?

04-26-2008, 08:07 PM	#12
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	Doesn't Leatherhead still hate Bishop or Baxter? Him being here could cause him to go out of control and attack their allies, its best they didn't include him.

04-26-2008, 10:21 PM	#16
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,313	I'd like to get a good image of Stockman's wheelchair 'o doom. It reminded me of the giant mecha that he used during his siege on The Shredder way back in Season One. __________________

04-27-2008, 08:34 AM	#19
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	A voice actor can be replaced. Better than to pull a Chuck Cunningham and have an important character disappear. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!