Trump Assassination attempt

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

He'll be fine, he has something to get attention for and probably couldn't be happier about that.

This. And this is where I have to unironically give Trump credit: because of his experience and talent as a media personality, he knows how to put himself in the spotlight. Within seconds after almost dying, he immediately poses as an unyielding leader.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

This. And this is where I have to unironically give Trump credit: because of his experience and talent as a media personality, he knows how to put himself in the spotlight. Within seconds after almost dying, he immediately poses as an unyielding leader.

You say this as a negative. And I kind of get it. But let's be real. Name the times you someone you know of has been shot at in the face with real bullets... and we're not talking about like the 380 or 9mm that might be in your grandmammy's grabbag.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that 13th July 2024 was perhaps one of the most important days in the history of the United States, perhaps even the world.

This day, more than any other so far, has immortalised The Donald.

[Iroh]

Look up Vince Fusca. He was the guy in the crowd with the hat. He was totally unfazed by what was going on while "bullets" were flying.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You say this as a negative. And I kind of get it. But let's be real. Name the times you someone you know of has been shot at in the face with real bullets... and we're not talking about like the 380 or 9mm that might be in your grandmammy's grabbag.

Haha, I'm in Germany. I don't know ANYONE who even owns a real gun. Especially not my long deceased grandmas.

And as said, I'm giving the guy the deserved credit. Making the split-second decision to re-frame your near death experience like this takes something.

[Iroh]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/hXWyRrV2aBj9LoJX/

Utterly stupid. lol Troll link.

[ToTheNines]

In what world does the secret service not have a counter sniper on this very same roof?

[ToTheNines]

Let me clarify, I am apolitical and don’t vote anymore. American politics is a sham and beyond repair. But gun to my head (and not counting any third party candidates) I would vote Trump over Biden.

Anyway, what I’m getting at is: I am into conspiracy theories obviously, but I love how every normie lib I know IRL or from the internet who doesn’t even believe in the Epstein network/assassination is now full tinfoil hat “FAKE blood! His campaign planned this!”.

Open your eyes people.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Let me clarify, I am apolitical and don’t vote anymore. American politics is a sham and beyond repair. But gun to my head (and not counting any third party candidates) I would vote Trump over Biden.

Anyway, what I’m getting at is: I am into conspiracy theories obviously, but I love how every normie lib I know IRL or from the internet who doesn’t even believe in the Epstein network/assassination is now full tinfoil hat “FAKE blood! His campaign planned this!”.

Open your eyes people.

When it comes to Conspiracy Theories, I follow a general rule. Either Conspiracy Theories are true or they are false because said false theory is a cover up for an even bigger Conspiracy.

In the case of the "Fake Blood" crowd, they are in the latter category. Clearly distracting from the real questions, like how the all-powerful secret service didn't take the shed roof into account when organising for the rally.

Even bigger, this shooting happens to take place just around the time when Trump was going to get offically nominated and about to pick his VP.

If he did get killed, said VP would've most likely taken his place in the race.

But guess what? All the current likely VP picks (Rubio, Haley, Vance etc.) were once Never-Trumpers and hated the man's guts with a passion.

So all these politicians who were once open for their hatred of Trump would've been the potential next President had Trump been killed? Not suspicious at all.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

When it comes to Conspiracy Theories, I follow a general rule. Either Conspiracy Theories are true or they are false because said false theory is a cover up for an even bigger Conspiracy.

In the case of the "Fake Blood" crowd, they are in the latter category. Clearly distracting from the real questions, like how the all-powerful secret service didn't take the shed roof into account when organising for the rally.

Even bigger, this shooting happens to take place just around the time when Trump was going to get offically nominated and about to pick his VP.

If he did get killed, said VP would've most likely taken his place in the race.

But guess what? All the current likely VP picks (Rubio, Haley, Vance etc.) were once Never-Trumpers and hated the man's guts with a passion.

So all these politicians who were once open for their hatred of Trump would've been the potential next President had Trump been killed? Not suspicious at all.

Interesting. Someone on twitter was saying since the RNC is in 2 days and Trump will have to pick a VP, they could be colluding with the DNC, who is simultaneously trying to oust Biden.

Basically “we whack Trump, it distracts from you pushing Biden into the nursing home, and we start the election with our candidates of choice on equal footing”. Starting to get a little out there, but it’s interesting.


In other news, shooter has been identified as Thomas Crooks. 20 year old dork. Once made a $15 donation to ACTBLUE, a progressive voter turnout org.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

There is no way that the gunman got in without either gross incompetence or inside knowledge from the secret service. The latter is far more likely considering how powerful they are.

Technically, he didn’t “get in” because he climbed a top a building outside the so-called “perimeter” which is always a possibility at open-air events.
https://x.com/TimKennedyMMA/status/1812315526992924729
https://x.com/Thomasfidy/status/1812325426137809115

[Iroh]

Totally off topic here but this wouldn't happen to Biden because he's already dead. He's been dead since he was elected. He's just too dumb and slow to realize it. He's too sleepy. Bro is a literal zombie.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Technically, he didn’t “get in” because he climbed a top a building outside the so-called “perimeter” which is always a possibility at open-air events.
https://x.com/TimKennedyMMA/status/1812315526992924729
https://x.com/Thomasfidy/status/1812325426137809115

You're right. "Get in" by itself was the wrong word on my part since he was outside the rally, but "get in within shooting range" is more accurate.

I wouldn't ever expect the Secret Service, with all their brains and resources, to make such an obvious mistake in the rally's planning.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Interesting. Someone on twitter was saying since the RNC is in 2 days and Trump will have to pick a VP, they could be colluding with the DNC, who is simultaneously trying to oust Biden.

Basically “we whack Trump, it distracts from you pushing Biden into the nursing home, and we start the election with our candidates of choice on equal footing”. Starting to get a little out there, but it’s interesting.

I think that theory holds weight. Many Democrats openly want Biden out, so its not surprising that some Republicians would also want Trump out, even if through force.

The motivations make sense here.

[ToTheNines]

It’s a known fact that Secret Service killed Kennedy…

[Bahamut810]

When I first saw this I wasn't sure if this was a set up or not. I am still on the fence. Throwing pros/cons up for it.

Pro-Setup
-supposedly (as of right now) used an "AK Style Weapon"
-This sort of event would boost Trumps approval, especially with that "photo op"
-The Secret Service and Police ignored claims that he was getting on the roof (edit to add)

Anti-Setup
-Aimed for the head
-Supposedly, the assassin was a registered republican but donated Blue. That feels like someone trying to influence 'the system'
-White guy

[Iroh]

Another wrench thrown into play is the shooter's identity. Was it really Thomas Crooks or Maxwell Yearick?

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

When I first saw this I wasn't sure if this was a set up or not. I am still on the fence. Throwing pros/cons up for it.

Pro-Setup
-supposedly (as of right now) used an "AK Style Weapon"
-This sort of event would boost Trumps approval, especially with that "photo op"
-The Secret Service and Police ignored claims that he was getting on the roof (edit to add)

Anti-Setup
-Aimed for the head
-Supposedly, the assassin was a registered republican but donated Blue. That feels like someone trying to influence 'the system'
-White guy

Was not an AK or any type of automatic. Was a rifle.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Iroh

Another wrench thrown into play is the shooter's identity. Was it really Thomas Crooks or Maxwell Yearick?

It’s Crooks.

Found someone on r/Pittsburgh who knows the family. Says the parents didn’t believe in meds for mental health issues and that the kid rigged the house with explosives. FBI/ATF there now.

Edit: “loud pop” reported around 4:15 AM

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Was not an AK or any type of automatic. Was a rifle.

I commonly see the gun being attributed as an "AK" style gun or a Rifle. Not all rifles are AK, but 'scary' boogeyman AK guns are all Rifles.

Regardless I have already seen people making anti-2a comments over it.

[oldmanwinters]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/who-is...-trump-shooter

Crooks is from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, a relatively affluent, predominantly white suburb of of Pittsburgh, about 42 miles away from Butler, where the Trump rally took place.

Allegheny County voter records listed a Thomas Matthew Crooks as a registered Republican, according to multiple news reports.

When Crooks was 17, according to Reuters, he made a $15 contribution to Act Blue, a political action committee that raises money for Democratic candidates. The donation was earmarked for the Progressive Turnout Project, according to Federal Election Commission in 2021 filings cited by Reuters.

Crooks graduated from Bethel Park High School in 2022 and was awarded a National Maths and Science Initiative Star Award worth $500.

During the attack, Crooks wore a gray T-shirt with an American flag on the sleeve, matching merchandise sold by the popular YouTube firearm channel Demolition Ranch. The channel has over 11 million subscribers and frequently posts videos about various types of weaponry.

During the rally, the alleged shooter was positioned on the roof of a building approximately 130 yards from the stage where Trump was speaking. Witnesses described seeing Crooks moving across the roof before the attack.