Alec Baldwin shoots and kills his own cinematographer

[Jester]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

It will get delayed more then anything, In the past there been horrific accidents that happen during filming, And those films still got released.

You might be right...Twilight Zone was released after all.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Jester

You might be right...Twilight Zone was released after all.

As well as The Crow.

This film will get released, and they will put in a this film is dedicated to credit.

[Leo656]

Depends how much was already shot. Baldwin allegedly is stepping back from all projects for a while to get his head right. So even if they tried to get back to work tomorrow, he isn't available.

There's a decent chance the whole thing just gets scrapped due to a mix of bad publicity, insurance rates skyrocketing, and physically not being able to finish it.

I'll be surprised if it gets finished and released. This thing's a complete wash.

[Papenbrook]

Out of respect for the deceased, I hope that they don't release it.

[Leo656]

They probably won't release it, but that would be the single least-important reason not to, by their standards.

Most likely, after this it will just cost too much to insure and they may not even have their big-name actor. Thus, it may not even be physically possible to finish it. Otherwise, the entire point would be (and has been, in the past), "Well, it's a tragedy, but we need to make our money back." That's literally all anyone in Hollywood cares about.

[Papenbrook]

I wonder how this incident will influence the IATSE strike.

Surely, some members must regret negotiating/ratifying so early ...

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Jester

You might be right...Twilight Zone was released after all.

Man, I can't imagine how that day on the set must have been after the helicopter accident. What a tragedy.

[IMJ]

They released The Crow and the star himself was shot, so yeah.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Out of respect for the deceased, I hope that they don't release it.

I kind of hate how everyone -- mostly SJWs -- presume to know the wishes of the dead person in these cases where the person dies in the middle of making a movie. If I was the DP of a fairly big movie and I died in the middle of it, making the damn thing... you bet your f***ing ass I'd want it to come out and people to see it! This thing cost me my life... now you think I want the movie buried with me in the casket? Shesus, why would you think that? It would have to be a tiny, TINY percentage of people that would actually want that.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I kind of hate how everyone -- mostly SJWs -- presume to know the wishes of the dead person in these cases where the person dies in the middle of making a movie. If I was the DP of a fairly big movie and I died in the middle of it, making the damn thing... you bet your f***ing ass I'd want it to come out and people to see it! This thing cost me my life... now you think I want the movie buried with me in the casket? Shesus, why would you think that? It would have to be a tiny, TINY percentage of people that would actually want that.

Right?
"I died for this movie"
SJW phony emotional projection - "No one must see this film now".

[joe-eyeball]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I kind of hate how everyone -- mostly SJWs -- presume to know the wishes of the dead person in these cases where the person dies in the middle of making a movie. If I was the DP of a fairly big movie and I died in the middle of it, making the damn thing... you bet your f***ing ass I'd want it to come out and people to see it! This thing cost me my life... now you think I want the movie buried with me in the casket? Shesus, why would you think that? It would have to be a tiny, TINY percentage of people that would actually want that.

Exactly! I mean as far a career goes that would be your legacy. If it were me I’d want it released, but I agree with some that it probably will never be finished let alone be released.

[Leo656]

Going by the plot synopsis, it's a movie nobody would've seen anyway. A western about a kid who accidentally kills someone? Who makes a western in 2021? Who watches a movie where a bunch of people are trying to hang a kid? Even if it came out, it would've been invisible. It's got no audience.

Its only value NOW would be among super-creepy people. "Come see the movie where Alec Baldwin killed someone!" Obviously there are SOME people who'd watch it for that exact reason, but outside of that kinda morbid stuff, it has no value.

Best-case scenario would be to cancel it. BUT, it also wouldn't shock me to see Hollywood somehow finish it, and then use the tragedy as a marketing tool. "Come see the 'controversial' western drama... a film so important, people gave their lives for its completion!" I can see that happening. I don't WANT to, but I can.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

BUT, it also wouldn't shock me to see Hollywood somehow finish it, and then use the tragedy as a marketing tool.

I doubt they would. But media would provide the marketing as soon as they release it for them, even if it's years from now. "Remember that time Baldwin killed his DP? That movie is out!" and thousands of people share it, etc.. The truth is yes, many people that never would've checked this out will now do so.

I imagine things stay shut down for 2 or 3 months. Then Baldwin comes back and they wrap it and it gets a quiet release on Amazon Prime or Netflix or something. Or Baldwin doesn't come back and they replace him with another actor, and either reshoot or recomposite the new actor into the old footage. They didn't even get quite halfway done with the shoot so it's anybody's guess.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

A western about a kid who accidentally kills someone?

Regardless of this particular movie, this attitude would so dumb for a writer.

[ZariusTwo]

Dwayne Johnson won't be using real guns on his productions

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/d...st-1235104627/

[Coola Yagami]

That logic is stupid. I know it's not 100% the same thing, but imagine them not releasing The Dark Knight over Heath's suicide. Just release the damn thing and get it over with.

[Leo656]

Dude they barely even started filming it. They probably didn't even get anywhere near close to "done" and now there's gonna be a ton of litigation around a bunch of people involved for the foreseeable future.

"Dark Knight" was already completely filmed when Heath Ledger died. Totally different situation. We're not talking about not being able to release it because of "controversy", they physically didn't get to shoot the movie. And now they probably won't be able to finish it regardless.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Dwayne Johnson won't be using real guns on his productions

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/d...st-1235104627/

Oh, what a big hero. What a joke.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Dude they barely even started filming it. They probably didn't even get anywhere near close to "done" and now there's gonna be a ton of litigation around a bunch of people involved for the foreseeable future.

"Dark Knight" was already completely filmed when Heath Ledger died. Totally different situation. We're not talking about not being able to release it because of "controversy", they physically didn't get to shoot the movie. And now they probably won't be able to finish it regardless.

Yeah, they didn't even get to the halfway point. Maybe approaching the one third mark, if that.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh, what a big hero. What a joke.
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Yeah, like how dare common sense win out over a more realistic recoil effect that 99% of the audience doesn't even notice or care about. What a dick move.

I hate Flex, but this was a wise decision. I mean if he's gonna run for President in 2024 these are the kinds of stances he needs to take. He's already got Allyssa Milano's vote, after all.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Dude they barely even started filming it. They probably didn't even get anywhere near close to "done" and now there's gonna be a ton of litigation around a bunch of people involved for the foreseeable future.

"Dark Knight" was already completely filmed when Heath Ledger died. Totally different situation. We're not talking about not being able to release it because of "controversy", they physically didn't get to shoot the movie. And now they probably won't be able to finish it regardless.

Not only that but this movie had direct to home release written all over it anyway. I mean... did anyone care about this movie in the first place?

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh, what a big hero. What a joke.

In a couple of years when the zeitgeist of this event fades he will go back to making movies to meet the criticism of things being "fake" and there will be some special features where he goes on about how everything in "Future Movie XYZ" is "all real - all the stunts, all the car crashes, all the firearms" and use it as a marketing draw for "Future Movie XYZ". Everything these people do is a response to whatever the sheep are yammering about in that particular moment.