Official TMNT 2 Discussion

[Leo656]

They absolutely kept their cards close to the vest as long as possible last time in order to minimize the collateral damage. No doubt about it. Every single thing that had leaked out was met with "Ew, that's awful", from the Blue Door script to the character designs. At some point, you just stop showing people things and ruining your own buzz.

This time, they're clearly trying to show right from the start how different this one is from the first, to try and get back some goodwill. All superficial "improvements" and I'm not won over so easily.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Leo656

They absolutely kept their cards close to the vest as long as possible last time in order to minimize the collateral damage. No doubt about it. Every single thing that had leaked out was met with "Ew, that's awful", from the Blue Door script to the character designs. At some point, you just stop showing people things and ruining your own buzz.

This time, they're clearly trying to show right from the start how different this one is from the first, to try and get back some goodwill. All superficial "improvements" and I'm not won over so easily.

I'm not going to give points to the sequel to an awful Ninja Turtles movie for actually including NINJAS this time around.

Ninjas, for all we know, that might have very limited amounts of screen time.

Not to mention everything else they're already screwing up.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I expect that the lack of promotion and that we got the trailers and character posters quite late for the first movie, was because of they were still getting the turtles CGI designs right, reshoots and changing Shredder, so making the fist movie didn't go smoothly.

When this movie fully wraps filming and possibly no reshoots, changes to the script ect and also we know what the turtles are going to be like, they probably might make a few modifications to them. So if pre production goes smoothly and quickly with no problems. There might be possibilty we could get character posters, teaser trailer ect at the NYCC.

Well, the models would have had to have been done well before then, the rendering time of getting them in there would take a while, foolish to cut that part too closely. This time though they've also got extra characters to get in there and possibly longer render time for it. Reshoot could still happen if they simply aren't happy with a shot.

Although I recall it was highly suspected last time that they also held off showing us anything until after that last Transformer's movie got it's trailers and opening out of the way before showing us much of anything, and did seem sorta true. Maybe they won't wait so long next year.

[Autbot_Benz]

Micheal bay's Twitter just posted this Michael Bay ‏@michaelbay 45s46 seconds ago

Just wrapped my movie in Morocco! Summertime! https://instagram.com/p/5DBpRSIWn5/

Guess he wasn't dealing with turtles as much

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Leo656

They absolutely kept their cards close to the vest as long as possible last time in order to minimize the collateral damage. No doubt about it. Every single thing that had leaked out was met with "Ew, that's awful", from the Blue Door script to the character designs. At some point, you just stop showing people things and ruining your own buzz.

This time, they're clearly trying to show right from the start how different this one is from the first, to try and get back some goodwill. All superficial "improvements" and I'm not won over so easily.

I don't think they are really showing us now. Yes they are reaping some slightly positive publicity by having scenes filmed in some pretty public places thus we can see just enough to notice "hey that looks like the old cartoon".

That's pretty much what they did with the first movie. At a glance it looks faithful but then look a bit deeper and you can see the signs. That's why once again they not really showing us. Heck there's no reason we can't have a teaser trailer now since there's human characters (this time ones we actually care about) in the sequel it could be Oroku Saki delivering a speech about vengeance, Baxter talking about experiments, glimpses into Casey Jones, there'd certainly be enough VFX of whatever their big action set piece to show something.

They're still trying suppress anything that might show that this isn't a more faithful take which is what they telling us but not really showing. I also imagine that Paramount doesn't want to allocate a whole lot of money to a movie which may not do the huge numbers to justify it.

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Micheal bay's Twitter just posted this Michael Bay ‏@michaelbay 45s46 seconds ago

Just wrapped my movie in Morocco! Summertime! https://instagram.com/p/5DBpRSIWn5/

Guess he wasn't dealing with turtles as much

That's what people were saying with the first movie. He was busy with Transformers 4 and that there was no way he could have that big of an impact on the movie. As it turns out not only was the biggest driving force on designs of the characters (straight from Pablo Helman's mouth) but then had a good portion of the movie rewritten and re-shot because he didn't like it.

I would bet good money he is more involved with this movie than the first. No one is going to trust a guy with one found footage style movie under his belt to helm a big franchise movie and certainly Megan Fox in rather blatant outfits designed to titillate, flashy cars and and cameos with sports stars and Victoria Secret models screams Bay.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I don't think they are really showing us now. Yes they are reaping some slightly positive publicity by having scenes filmed in some pretty public places thus we can see just enough to notice "hey that looks like the old cartoon".

That's pretty much what they did with the first movie. At a glance it looks faithful but then look a bit deeper and you can see the signs. That's why once again they not really showing us. Heck there's no reason we can't have a teaser trailer now since there's human characters (this time ones we actually care about) in the sequel it could be Oroku Saki delivering a speech about vengeance, Baxter talking about experiments, glimpses into Casey Jones, there'd certainly be enough VFX of whatever their big action set piece to show something.

They're still trying suppress anything that might show that this isn't a more faithful take which is what they telling us but not really showing. I also imagine that Paramount doesn't want to allocate a whole lot of money to a movie which may not do the huge numbers to justify it.



That's what people were saying with the first movie. He was busy with Transformers 4 and that there was no way he could have that big of an impact on the movie. As it turns out not only was the biggest driving force on designs of the characters (straight from Pablo Helman's mouth) but then had a good portion of the movie rewritten and re-shot because he didn't like it.

I would bet good money he is more involved with this movie than the first. No one is going to trust a guy with one found footage style movie under his belt to helm a big franchise movie and certainly Megan Fox in rather blatant outfits designed to titillate, flashy cars and and cameos with sports stars and Victoria Secret models screams Bay.

This. Yes this exactly.

[Technogeek29]

PD speaks of a TMNT movie like this


or this


or this


but instead we got


The designs wouldn't look to horrid (I still don't like them) if they looked something more like this.

Spoiler:

[Foombamaroom]

He literally took the designs and said, "Great, now times it by 3." If Bay has all of these ideas for cool action sequences, make an original ****ing movie. The only reason why he buys properties like Transformers and TMNT is so that way he can make money for people to see those action sequences. God, I hope that once the Bay TMNT trilogy is complete, we'll get a reboot. A reboot that follows the source material.

[Slap-Happy]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

The only reason why he buys properties like Transformers and TMNT is so that way he can make money for people to see those action sequences.

He didn't seek these properties out. Paramount came to him because they know he can spin almost anything into box office gold.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I hope that once the Bay TMNT trilogy is complete, we'll get a reboot. A reboot that follows the source material.

I think it all depends on the box office sells. It will definitely make money but hopefully it will be less than what the last one made. With so many movies coming out in 2016, we can only hope.

[TigerClaw]

If all the TMNT movies are successful, What if the studio decides to hire a team of writers, Like they did for Transformers, And create a TMNT cinematic universe? Maybe someday we'll have a Mighty Mutanimals movie.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

If all the TMNT movies are successful, What if the studio decides to hire a team of writers, Like they did for Transformers, And create a TMNT cinematic universe? Maybe someday we'll have a Mighty Mutanimals movie.

I think the more likely thing is a crossover with Transformers.

[Foombamaroom]

A TMNTCU wouldn't work, because at the end of the day, it all comes down to the brothers. A Mighty Mutanimals spin-off could work, but that's about it. Transformers has a vast amount of characters... but they're going to basically make 12 movies centered on humans, so it's really not going to be a Transformers cinematic universe. Every company thinks they need one: You really don't. Unless you use all of/a vast majority of the characters from a certain comic group, it really doesn't work.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

A TMNTCU wouldn't work, because at the end of the day, it all comes down to the brothers. A Mighty Mutanimals spin-off could work, but that's about it. Transformers has a vast amount of characters... but they're going to basically make 12 movies centered on humans, so it's really not going to be a Transformers cinematic universe. Every company thinks they need one: You really don't. Unless you use all of/a vast majority of the characters from a certain comic group, it really doesn't work.

Cinematic Universes don't work unless you're a comic book publisher famous for multiple unique characters.

That limits you to:

DC Comics (Justice League)
Marvel Comics (Avengers, X-Men)

Spiderman by himself cannot support a CU. Nor can the TMNT. Rather, they can enjoy a film series with maybe 1 spinoff.

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Cinematic Universes don't work unless you're a comic book publisher famous for multiple unique characters.

That limits you to:

DC Comics (Justice League)
Marvel Comics (Avengers, X-Men)

Spiderman by himself cannot support a CU. Nor can the TMNT. Rather, they can enjoy a film series with maybe 1 spinoff.

Exactly. The Transformers "could" because the cast shifts all the time due to the massive amount of Transformers characters. But properties like Spider-Man and the TMNT? There's no need for it.

Plus, we've already had a TMNT spin-off in 2014. It's called April: The Movie.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

If all the TMNT movies are successful, What if the studio decides to hire a team of writers, Like they did for Transformers, And create a TMNT cinematic universe? Maybe someday we'll have a Mighty Mutanimals movie.

That would literally be the dumbest idea since Sony's proposed Spider-Man Cinematic Universe.

[Vicky82]

I would love to see a TMNT cinematic universe but it aint going to happen because there won't enough to do, there would only be TMNT sequels, Mutaninals and maybe a Usagi movie (if there was deal with Stan), that would be it.

DC and Marvel can do it because there universe is so huge.

I don't like the idea of a Transformers universe, it sounds stupid.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I would love to see a TMNT cinematic universe but it aint going to happen because there won't enough to do, there would only be TMNT sequels, Mutaninals and maybe a Usagi movie (if there was deal with Stan), that would be it.

DC and Marvel can do it because there universe is so huge.

I don't like the idea of a Transformers universe, it sounds stupid.

I would like an Usagi Yojimbo movie too, It would have to be all CGI.

[IndigoErth]

Only if Leo gets to be in part of it.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Technogeek29

but instead we got
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...lemutation.gif

How dare you insult the TMNT anime & compare it to Bayturtles.