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Nation’s (USA) first ‘vaccine passport’ coming to New York
Nation’s first ‘vaccine passport’ coming to New York
By Gabrielle Fonrouge - March 26, 2021 https://nypost.com/2021/03/26/nation...g-to-new-york/ Quote:
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03-30-2021, 06:51 AM | #2 |
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But voter ID... totally racist.
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03-30-2021, 06:57 AM | #3 |
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From the same people from the New York government, who are also putting people like New York Commissioner Tracey A. Edwards to declare for people to trust the government. See at 27:20-28:01:
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03-30-2021, 07:52 AM | #4 |
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But why? If most everyone gets the vaccine won't corona go the way of the mumphs since there'll be noone left for it to infect? I mean by next year the Corona card is gonna be as useless as a Swine Flu card or a Bird Flu card.
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03-30-2021, 08:55 AM | #5 |
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Also, where are all of the angry leftist Dromer's screaming "believe women"? Cuomo has been accused of sexual misconduct by several people now.
Why isn't he stepping down? Where is the hate and outrage? I want f'n heads. |
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Its not about people's health or corona. Its all about control... just like the d@mn masks.
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03-30-2021, 07:40 PM | #7 |
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I don't have a problem with this really. When the whole Small Pox thing was a thing, people carried around cards to prove they'd been vaccinated. At least it's not government mandated. It's up to companies if they require one to have it to use their facilities and it seems that getting these "Vaccine Passports", which have been around for years anyway, is an optional thing. I guess this also doesn't feel like a big deal, because there are times where you have to present your vaccination information that's also been done for years.
To enroll your kids in school, you need to share that information. You have to have a certain amount of vaccinations completed by Kindergarten, but I know some places don't require it. Probably private schools. Also, I think for most universities and colleges these days, where in-person instruction is done, they require vaccination information. In order to enter certain countries, those people use "Vaccine Passports" (my aunt and uncle had to when they went on vacation in Africa, but forget which countries they visited). If I'm not mistaken, military officers tend to have them since they do a lot of international travel. For certain jobs you have to have your vaccination information presented to them to make sure you're up-to-date and if you do not have some of those vaccines, they order you to get one, or you can't work there (unless it's a medical reason why you can't get it). So yeah...I don't get what the big deal is, personally. Been doing this for all of our lives, practically. Don't get why people keep saying this. Voter ID isn't racist, but making it more difficult for some people is a bit prejudiced. For instance, where I live, the only thing we need to vote is any government issued ID. I sometimes use my driver's license and I have used my passport. For those who do not have either of those, they can use a utility bill addressed to the voter with the current address matching what's on the voter roll registration. It is a problem, though, if legislatures want to put in more strict rules as to what can be used and what cannot be or those who want to have multiple forms of ID just to cast a vote. For myself, I have two and my social security card, but everyone doesn't have those things. Not everyone drives and maybe they'd been using some other alternative to casting a vote. In Georgia, to my knowledge, for those who need state Voter IDs if they do not have the other forms of ID, it is free, which is fine, but they need a lot of documentation just to register for one, which would include having to pay for those things or even taking time out to go to city hall and stuff like that. IMO, to get a Voter ID, providing your social security number (as an alternative), name, and address should be enough to receive one. Some people do not have birth certificates or had them, and became lost over time. In the case of my cousin, the hospital she was born in doesn't exist anymore, so getting a copy of her birth certificate a few years ago was a hassle. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not sure if she ever managed to get another copy. Another thing, the main issue I think most logical people were having a problem with regarding the bill was the cutting back of the hours, cutting back on early voting times, ditching the reason-free absentee voting set up that had been around since the early 2000s (iirc), limiting ballot boxes, limiting the amount of polling places in general even more than what they were, which tend to affect mostly areas with poc which creates super long waits, and getting rid of Sunday voting (which was good for those who work weekdays and for those who celebrate the Sabbath/day of worship on Fridays/Saturdays).He's not stepping down because he's choosing not to. What can anyone do about that? People have been calling for him to step down, left and right. Last edited by ssjup81; 03-30-2021 at 08:16 PM. Reason: Edit: Curse thee typos! lol |
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People were burning down buildings and assaulting people in the streets for less or the same.....
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03-31-2021, 12:25 PM | #9 |
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this is horrifying
all these “debunked conspiracy theories” are coming true.
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They are introducing vaccine passports and other liberal-tracking nonsense and people are flowing to it. What are you going to do next year when you need your next series of vaccines and you stop suddenly and go "Durp but urt I got mine dah last year oneeee!"
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1) COVID-19 is classified in the family of "coronavirus", and it's similar to the common cold in which you can only vaccinate for a strain or closely related to it. For example, take the flu shot for the common cold. It has to be made every year because the cumulative effect of the viral mutations leads to different strains, and researchers have to predict which strains will be global as they develop the flu shot. Quote:
It wouldn't surprise me that these new variants from South Africa, the UK, and etc. might trigger a perpetual cycle of new vaccines for other variants just to profit Big Pharma. ------------ 2) But don't put too much faith in Big Pharma's vaccine trials though... "Covid-19 Vaccine Protocols Reveal That Trials Are Designed To Succeed" by William A. Haseltine of Forbes Magazine https://www.forbes.com/sites/william...h=cae916652479 Quote:
3) Add to the fact that you can not sue Big Pharma for any adverse reactions from the COVID vaccine: "You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won’t compensate you for damages either" by MacKenzie Sigalos of CNBC https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covi...n-lawsuit.html Quote:
4) Then there's also the emergence of "breakthrough cases" in which some of those who are vaccinated, are still getting COVID-19. Now whether these are new variants, or as the Forbes article suggested a mediocre vaccine is a whole other area of investigation. Therefore, it's understandable for some people to be very reluctant to have this COVID vaccine with this new novel mRNA approach, if one takes an overall viewpoint of the whole matter. ...Though you won't see these news stories, or this perspective, on the national evening news from the mainstream media. Last edited by Refractive Reflections; 03-31-2021 at 09:37 PM. Reason: Some grammar, and clarification corrections |
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Point #4 is duh, of course, because no vaccine is claiming 100% immunity. So you would expect a small percentage of people immunised are still going to contract Covid afterwards. But the argue points are valid, until more testing, you can't tell if that's due to not being effective for that person, or it's a strain that the vaccine isn't able to handle.
As for point #3, that's the one that the missus and myself were like "woah" when he heard in the US. If you happen to be one of those SooL on the jab, you've got no one to blame and no one to help you. That's bad.
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Double-R needs to post more. This place needs more common sense.
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Agreed. But see we used to do that more here. But for my part in it I still make the same points but I don't want to contain the vitriol at all in certain circumstances because academic points don't matter here when it comes to the target audience here. They will say it matters, but they are lying as a matter of convenience. If you let the vitriol out, they'll say you make points without support, if you make points with support they'll just say what's easiest to counter that. I'm past the point of pure academia, although I'm still on life experience. Where it goes from there though just gets darker. |
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It's pretty funny how Reflections posts stuff that is all very easily looked up and proven, and some people just "Nope" it because they don't like the message. Remember that nutcase ex-Mod who used to give me sh*t for not posting sources because I have better sh*t to do than spend my entire day on Google? Yeah, turns out that's not what the issue is, the issue is that people on The Left disregard any factual evidence that runs counter to their nonsense. Because Reflections goes out of his way to present factual evidence of This or That and people still go "Nah, I don't think that's right." In spite of the mountain of evidence that yeah, he is right. Good thing Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings, as a "controversial" wise man once (and often) said.
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When did the drome get so red pilled? Seems like that used to be the minority around here....
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