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Old 09-12-2022, 01:32 PM   #121
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Marvel Studios can always swap her out for Melissa Benoist, they're pretty much interchangeable in every way.

As for The Marvels... No Moonstone, no sell.
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Old 09-12-2022, 01:46 PM   #122
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Do we think The Marvels will bomb? If so, I've got to wonder what Marvel/Disney will do. If she's not even useful to prop up Ms. Marvel and the other one, what good is she?
Bomb as in "this movie flat out made less money than it cost to make" or bomb as in "it will be kind of difficult to justify a third one because it made less than projected"? If it's the former, I seriously doubt it, plenty of people (myself included I must admit) go watch these movies regardless of reviews or word of mouth. If it's the latter... That's a bit more believable. I don't think anyone would be shocked if it turns out Eternals or Shang-Shi don't get direct sequels, and while Doctor Strange 2 and Thor 4 still made enough money, I don't really think anyone cares about them beyond the ties to the previous better installments and ties to future installments.
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Old 09-12-2022, 07:23 PM   #123
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There is still a standing argument to be had about the reality of the box office take for the first one given that there is some serious arguments that Marvel marketing pumped marketing money into buying tickets at theaters whose owners then went in and recorded empty theaters with sold out seats.

So who knows what the reality of the next box office will be.

There where also deniers that people hated Brie Larson and that Marvel would never lie about how accepted she was across the fandom. Now she's been recorded telling a "Journalist" - "hey does anyone want me back as Captain Marvel? I don't know..."

Absolute admission right there regarding the reality of the public and that movie even though Marvel false flagged that it was all great.
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Old 09-12-2022, 07:49 PM   #124
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There is still a standing argument to be had about the reality of the box office take for the first one given that there is some serious arguments that Marvel marketing pumped marketing money into buying tickets at theaters whose owners then went in and recorded empty theaters with sold out seats.

So who knows what the reality of the next box office will be.

There where also deniers that people hated Brie Larson and that Marvel would never lie about how accepted she was across the fandom. Now she's been recorded telling a "Journalist" - "hey does anyone want me back as Captain Marvel? I don't know..."

Absolute admission right there regarding the reality of the public and that movie even though Marvel false flagged that it was all great.
Exactly. "Does anybody want me back?" is the exact opposite of OMG so awesome, Captain Marvel clearly sold out seats because Brie was so awesome as Captain Marvel, the bestest Avenger ever-er!
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Old 09-13-2022, 01:06 AM   #125
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She's unsure if she'll ever reprise the role, seems like she doubts anyone even wants her to:

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1...re-exit-rumors
Either rising her stakes or she finally figured out that Captain Marvel is just a gimmick for a "current year" and she is promoted not on a strength and likeability of her character (which is mostly absent), but on a fact she is a woman and nothing else. Not even a great actress.
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Old 09-13-2022, 06:01 PM   #126
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There is still a standing argument to be had about the reality of the box office take for the first one given that there is some serious arguments that Marvel marketing pumped marketing money into buying tickets at theaters whose owners then went in and recorded empty theaters with sold out seats.
It's still a standing argument because people with an agenda wont let it die even though there is zero credible evidence of it and the whole idea that Disney bought mass amount of tickets and the movie just played to empty theatres all across is so stupid only idiots take that conspiracy theory seriously.

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Probably a lot less than a billion that the first one but still financially profitable...then again Multiverse of Madness fell only a bit shy of a billion and that's with it being tonally divisive and not being released in certain markets. Given that The Marvels is going to tonally different to the first it could suprise us and do even better.


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Either rising her stakes or she finally figured out that Captain Marvel is just a gimmick for a "current year" and she is promoted not on a strength and likeability of her character (which is mostly absent), but on a fact she is a woman and nothing else. Not even a great actress.
Just to be clear no version of Captain Marvel put out by Marvel the comics company has ever been popular. The only reason they keep trying to is to retain the copyright on the name.

The original Mar-Vell was a flop even when the gave him a quasi reboot. He's only gained a sense of importance because some writers really liked the mythology behind the character and successfully used it in other books. Monica Rambeau developed a cult following as a member of the Avengers but I don't think it was ever enough to sustain a solo book. Genis-Vell was also a failure and I say that as someone who enjoyed both volumes of his title.

The only one that had good sales by the standards of the time is Carol. There were nothing to write home about but still pretty decent. Things dipped badly after a few years but then the movie seemed to boost sales.
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Old 09-13-2022, 06:52 PM   #127
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It's still a standing argument because people with an agenda wont let it die even though there is zero credible evidence of it and the whole idea that Disney bought mass amount of tickets and the movie just played to empty theatres all across is so stupid only idiots take that conspiracy theory seriously.
We are talking about corporate deflection here - the very nature of business in an office in America. And besides, why would the theater owners who took the movies be incentivized to make that up?

One position in this very plausible conspiracy is born of marketing budgets and doing anything to save the face of a billion dollar movie machine. The other position is that a series of small business owners just decided to put themselves out there in society with this information to lie or "spread hate".

It's an incredibly plausible scenario. And measure all of that against the great public who does not like Brie Larsen. You are going to tell me the all of the white males who saw the Avengers also went and saw Captain Marvel to raise close to the same box office?!?
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Old 09-14-2022, 01:33 PM   #128
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It's still a standing argument because people with an agenda wont let it die even though there is zero credible evidence of it and the whole idea that Disney bought mass amount of tickets and the movie just played to empty theatres all across is so stupid only idiots take that conspiracy theory seriously.
If people with agenda can claim that everyone who don't like Larson or Captain Marvel are horrible Nazis and sexists, than an opposite theory, based on corporate greed and pride, can exist.
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Just to be clear no version of Captain Marvel put out by Marvel the comics company has ever been popular. The only reason they keep trying to is to retain the copyright on the name.
Thanks for being self-illustrating article about conspiracy theories created by people with agenda and believed by idiots with agenda or without.

Also, it was obvious that Marvel were trying to push her as some sort of equivalent of the Wonder Woman, since Marvel doesn't have "pre-made" super popular female superhero from comic books or all of them are coming or tied to X-Men, which they couldn't use back than.

They wouldn't spend millions on marketing and pretending her to be an integral part of the End Game, just to keep copyrights.
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Old 09-25-2022, 02:07 PM   #129
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The Marvels director on how the worst moment in Avengers: Endgame should have been 2 hours:

https://comicbookmovie.com/captain_m...gs.e703.cyojis
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Old 09-25-2022, 02:15 PM   #130
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That's like saying the ending of Ghostbusters: Afterlife with Spengs should've been the entire movie. Like yeah, nah. A fist-pump moment shouldn't overstay its welcome. And for what it's worth I've only ever heard that "Girl Power" scene in the Avengers joint described as "cringe-y, cheesy, and forced". Whatever emotional response the filmmakers were trying to go for, they apparently managed the complete opposite. I obviously haven't seen the movie but I've never heard a single person say otherwise.
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Old 09-26-2022, 12:01 AM   #131
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I get what you're saying but equating the "Spengler moment" to THAT moment... yikes. Though I know you mean what it means to certain people like The Marvels director.
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