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A really sad state of affairs. Reminds me of Alex Proyas's reaction, when critics bombed his Gods of the Egypt. I can only hope that she will be able to reflect on her words and do not do this mistake in the future. Playing "-ism" card, if you movie is a failure is like the last thing to do. |
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Brie Larson doesn't care what white people think about "A Wrinkle in Time." "It's wasn't for them."
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My personal feeling, is that it's absolutely disgraceful and ugly to cry that movie was not understood / was not successful because of some kind of racial or whatever other bias. It makes a person to look like an idiot and amateur who wants to deflect criticism by appealing to some kind of bias. Last edited by Sumac; 06-14-2018 at 06:34 PM. |
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I know, ain't she great?
I mean she's not wrong, why does one minority opinion get way more press than the others.
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I think I'm going to borrow this.
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I can't judge whether the movie was for me or not, because I already hated the book...
But based on what I've looked into, the movie seemed to hew fairly close to the book. Enough to disinterest me, anyway. And a 100-foot Oprah sure isn't going to earn points from me. Nor Reese Witherspoon turning into a magic leaf carpet. I don't remember EITHER of those from the book. Actually, thinking about it, I think they changed up the three Whitches, or Whoses, or angels, or Three Magical Ladies, a lot. I don't think they were so spectacle-driven in the book. Whatever, Andrew called it best: bomb written all over it. Too bad.
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I don't think it takes a dramatic leap in logic to say that if you didn't like the source material then chances are good the film adaptation of that Source material might not be within your wheelhouse.
This would be why I never have to see an adaptation of the Narnia books. Or why blessedly I will never watch a Green Lantern movie. But then, I wasn't really the Target demographic for the source material for either of those. There's been a lot of kvetching on this forum about "fake geek" sites reviewing geek movies and then not giving them the accolades so-called true fans would have given them. Kind of the same argument isn't it? The target audience of a thing will have a different reaction to that thing then someone who has no emotional investment in it.
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I wish it had done better, for my friends who DO like the book. But it was fighting an uphill battle, same as the Narnia movies.
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I think she replaced Auntie Beast, though I couldn't say why.
I only read the book for the first time myself not too long ago. And I'm sad to report that while I know many people for whom this book was a cultural Touchstone in their youth, it did nothing for me. This is probably because I am well past the window of opportunity. Except for that bit about the town. I really like the creepy synchronous town.
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And if you subscribe to this logic, then only black people have right to criticize stuff made by black people and only Asians have right stuff to criticize stuff made bu Asians and only white people (whoever the **** they are) have right to criticize stuff made by white people. Which just another form of racism. We can go further and prohibit those pesky white people to watch stuff made by blacks. Who cares about whities opinion, right? However, then what those cretins will do when they movie will bomb with the black audience too? Cry that it was some racist conspiracy and that they movie failed because of evil white people? Quote:
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I was super stoked to see the town in the trailer, but... yeah. From the forced these to the theology to how insufferable the little alien kid was... Just not a thing for me.
I will say I really did enjoy the portrayal of both of the parents.
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As a father of a kid near that age, I belligerently call BS. Willing suspension of disbelief, shattered like a kid's heart on prom night.
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Maybe the plan was to address this in later books?
I'm told the series just gets weirder.
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Mindy Kaling joins Brie Larson in "This movie wasn't for white people"/"if there were more non-white people critics, people would have (been tricked into) seen this movie."
And not, you know, "Oops. We did a bad movie." I guess there's never been a movie about white people that has done bad that's been reviewed by white people ever, right? https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/new...L&ocid=UP97DHP After all, those pesky white critics really ravaged "Black Panther," didn't they?
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Whatever this virtue signal people will say it won't change the fact that those movies were most mediocre and this is THE reason why they have failed. Movies do not fail, just because of the critics.
How many examples when the movie was mediocre, but it was financial success, despite critics lambasting it left and right? And how many examples when the critics were praising the movie like a masterpiece, whereas the movie itself failed in the box-office? All this "white people failed our movies" is just trash deflection by not particularly smart people. Because, any fool, with modicum of brain can understand when someone starts blaming some kind of conspiracy or bias for the failure of the movie, it reeks of desperate deflection. |
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It's about Ocean's 8, it's about Wrinkle, it's about all of it. And actually looking at the box office, Ocean's 8 is actually performing decently -- it's already made its whole budget back domestically, which is where it counts. The rest of weekend #2, then weekend 3 or 4 will surely put things sufficiently into the green. I'm not sure what she's complaining about.
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