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Old 09-17-2023, 03:17 PM   #1
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Can someone tell me when this series becomes good?

There are promises of like, deep character development, queer coding and found family vibes all over YouTube.

I've been trying to get through the first few episodes and it's mostly Splinter being disgusting.

When does it start getting more into the backstory and family aspects? I'm happy to skip to that. I know this series has a very enthusiastic following.
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Old 09-17-2023, 09:54 PM   #2
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It never really gets particularly "good" but it has its moments toward the end of its run.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:46 PM   #3
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At some point late in the series it touches on Spinter's background in his youth, but by then he'd been a crappy parent for so long it failed to make me feel any empathy for him.


From what I've seen online for a while, I really feel like a majority of the most enthusiastic following, much of which showed up rather late and are mad they missed the boat on keeping it alive, is Gen Z who suddenly noticed that the Turtles did some stuff they liked. Personally, not to be hating on them... but I've come to take that age group's opinions on much of anything with a grain of salt, so the fact that they went gaga for Rise never, for me, gave it any added credibility that "it's good," no matter how much they've insisted after arriving late. To each their own, but I gave it a fair 100% chance to win me over and it failed to do so. (And even the PD Turtles -- okay mostly Leo via 2016 -- won me over, despite how unhappy I was with all that originally, so it's not like I'm stubbornly impossible to reach eventually.)


Quite a while back I came up with an ep list for Rise of the more or less "necessary" episodes is someone simply wants the stuff needed to follow the arc and cut out the other crap. Some of the better stuff may be within those.

Season 1

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1 - Mystic Mayhem
2 - Origami Tsunami (could skip, but introduces Foot and paper ninjas)
7 - Bug Busters
13 - The Evil League of Mutants
16 - Shadow of Evil
25 - Insane in the Mama Train
26 - End Game

Season 2

27 - Many Unhappy Return
30 - Repairin' the Baron (could skip, but would leave a plot hole in character relationship)
37 - Battle Nexus: New York
38a/b - Finale part 1 & 2
39a/b - Finale part 3 & 4



Some of the filler will barely touch on anything to do with the arc by, in the end, obtaining another piece of something they're collecting the parts of (to put it lightly so not to spoil), but that's like the most that will happen in any of the filler so they're completely skippable.
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Old 09-18-2023, 09:46 PM   #4
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As a really big rise fan I admit the show is a lot of “mindless humor” it’s mostly just silly and goofy, although there are the bits of lore in the series. If you’re looking for more character development you choice check out the season finales and the movie. Also Leo is very queercoded and Donnie is good autistic rep.
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Old 09-20-2023, 12:10 AM   #5
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Also Leo is very queercoded
Oh, well, it's definitely worth watching then.
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Old 09-20-2023, 12:52 AM   #6
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Also Leo is very queercoded and Donnie is good autistic rep.
Wha........?
Why?
*vomits*

Though, I take its just wishful thinking of some poor soul as is customary with a "modern audience".

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Old 09-20-2023, 04:16 AM   #7
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I‘ve only watched the Netflix film which was very good. It‘s true that Donatello has autistic traits (doesn‘t like to be touched, neurotic etc) and Leo acts relatively flamboyant but none of it is too in-your-face. Raph‘s a bit weird because he seems much older than everyone else and his voice actor sounds too much like the middle-aged black guy that he is. Mikey is cool though, very unlike the 2012 and 2003 versions which are both horrible.
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Old 09-21-2023, 12:27 PM   #8
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As a really big rise fan I admit the show is a lot of “mindless humor” it’s mostly just silly and goofy, although there are the bits of lore in the series. If you’re looking for more character development you choice check out the season finales and the movie. Also Leo is very queercoded and Donnie is good autistic rep.
They are, but only in the most superficial way. It never really hits anything because Rise just refuses to be about anything or have plot that matters.
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Old 09-21-2023, 12:45 PM   #9
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I guess it was only a matter of time.
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Old 09-21-2023, 04:09 PM   #10
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I didn't get any gayness out of Rise's Leo. He seemed a bit more flamboyant because he wasn't a serious leader, but my "gaydar" did not go off once this series.
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Old 09-21-2023, 06:22 PM   #11
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And once again, "anything-coded" is complete and utter nonsense. It's just a thing that crowd made up so they could "claim" characters, including those who don't even have race or sexual orientation to begin with. It's based entirely on projection and obsessive mental fanfiction.
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Old 09-22-2023, 09:31 AM   #12
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"Queercoded".
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:57 PM   #13
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And once again, "anything-coded" is complete and utter nonsense. It's just a thing that crowd made up so they could "claim" characters, including those who don't even have race or sexual orientation to begin with. It's based entirely on projection and obsessive mental fanfiction.
Definitivly untrue. Tons of writers from yesteryear across several mediums have stated in interviews that this was authorial intent in their works.
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