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Old 01-11-2015, 02:51 PM   #1
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are those unofficial image 24-25 comics on eBay worth the money?

Story: Andrew Modeen
Art: Arseniy Dubakov, Frank Fosco, David Seltzer

Number of Story Pages: 31 (from 52)
Additional Material:
1) "Practical Jokes" - 6 pages TMNT story by Will Tupper & Donna G. Omo;
2) "Conflict Resolution" - 8 pages story by Will Tupper & Dennis Kennedy;
3) "TMNT Versus Spawn" - 5 pages story by Frank Fosco & Courtland Brugger.

The Volume 3 of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was released through Image Comics from 1996 to 1999 and, unfortunately, was canceled after issue 23 and subsequently declared to be non-canon. However, recently the TMNT fans gathered and decided to finish the production of the remaining issues, albeit unofficially, thus providing the missing link between the third and the fourth volumes. The first of these issues is before your very eyes.

Despite of being unofficial, the comic still contains the work of such people as Frank Fosco (TMNT Vol.3 #1-23 artist), Gary Carlson (TMNT Vol.3 writer), Ross May (Tales of the TMNT writer), Will Tupper (Tales of the TMNT writer), Jim Lawson (Mirage Studios artist) and A.C. Farley (Mirage Studios artist)!

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Issue signed by it's artist, Arseniy Dubakov.



301455325473 is the item number of one of them.

He wants 25 and 10 for shipping and its autographed by him. I did buy a copy of odyssey from him but I'm yet to pay.
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Old 01-11-2015, 03:24 PM   #2
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Yeah it's worth it, Odyssey was a great book in every way (minus a couple of spots where it could have used a proofread by a native English speaker). I'm waiting until I get around to catching up to reading the image series to actually read 24-25, but I expect nothing less from them. Also look for Tales of the TMNT #71.
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Old 01-11-2015, 03:25 PM   #3
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Absolutely. It not only gives Volume 3 the ending it truly deserved had it not been cancelled, it also does an excellent job of bridging the gap to Volume 4.
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Old 01-11-2015, 03:49 PM   #4
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well i currently have no other image comics. and the rest of my tmnt collection is the ultimate collection volume 1-5 and the entire idw collection up to date. along with a vast amount of newer toys that are opened on display and the new comic figures still in their packaging. so my collection is growing and growing. im very happy i went ahead and purchased the odyssey and the 24 and 25 image. im going to just frame the 24 and 25 since i can read the pdfs. thanks alot for the replies i really appreciate it. i dont really post much but i check back from time to time and this is my favorite place for tmnt news and discussion.
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Old 01-11-2015, 03:56 PM   #5
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Except for the original TPB that collects the first five issues, I don't have any of the Image volume myself... waiting for IDW to reprint.

Does anyone know if Andrew Modeen offered a hardback or trade paperback version of Issues #24 and 25?
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Old 01-11-2015, 04:22 PM   #6
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Having contributed to the book, I am a little biased but it's definitely a well made book and you should pick it up if you can. As others have said, it wraps it up nicely and bridges the gap.
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Old 01-11-2015, 05:01 PM   #7
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I'm waiting for IDW to release the image set in a collection of some sort. I almost bought the complete set a few times for considerably cheaper than usual but didn't. I'll just wait it out. Ive read all of the issue summaries and it looks decent.
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Old 01-11-2015, 05:06 PM   #8
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Why the hell would anyone pay for fan fiction you can read online for free?
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Old 01-11-2015, 05:29 PM   #9
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Why the hell would anyone pay for fan fiction you can read online for free?
To own a physical copy... Answer seems pretty obvious.
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Old 01-11-2015, 06:57 PM   #10
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Because it's not just fan fiction. It's creator approved with their input and assistance. I would call it "fan written", not "fanfic."

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Old 01-14-2015, 06:49 PM   #11
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As a collector's item--something to own--sure. It's background and pedigree are more than interesting enough to justify a purchase, if that's your thing and can afford it. As a book to actually enjoy...it really depends on your tolerance for continuity porn, which is far and away the books' main priority.
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Old 01-14-2015, 07:05 PM   #12
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As a collector's item--something to own--sure. It's background and pedigree are more than interesting enough to justify a purchase, if that's your thing and can afford it. As a book to actually enjoy...it really depends on your tolerance for continuity porn, which is far and away the books' main priority.
Even then I found a lot of its points disappointing - such as Lady Shredder not being Karai as was intended.
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Old 01-15-2015, 02:20 AM   #13
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She was not intended to be Karai. Straight from the horse's (Gary Carlson) mouth....
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Did a bit of digging and couldn't find anything online one way or the other so I'll take your word for it. My bad.
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Old 01-15-2015, 12:59 PM   #15
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Apparently they're pretty rare. Eventually I might do a 3rd print of #24 and 2nd print of #25 (or maybe combine them together into a single "UNFINISHED BUSINESS" special)... but certainly no imminent plans.
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Old 01-15-2015, 01:17 PM   #16
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She was not intended to be Karai. Straight from the horse's (Gary Carlson) mouth....
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Did a bit of digging and couldn't find anything online one way or the other so I'll take your word for it. My bad.
If I recall the E-mails all the way back in 2005 or so correctly, Gary Carlson's intention for Pimiko was for her to be the (apparently) dead daughter of Karai from "City at War." The one that took a full machine gun clip to the gut, somehow still alive. Implying that Saki and Karai had a child together -- Pimiko. And Lady Shredder was to be Karai herself, still in disgrace. Headhunter from Big Bang #10 was originally intended to be Pimiko's mother but by the time Gary introduced Lady Shredder, those plans had been discarded in favor of having it be Karai.

To me, though, when plotting the conclusion over ten years removed from where Vol. 3 had been left, it seemed a bit like this: we could do that, you know... we could make Lady Shredder into Karai (who had yet to even appear once in Vol. 3) and we could make Pimiko into Karai's dead daughter seemingly out of nowhere... but rather than introduce all these new questions and new directions with very little time or space in which to do it, why not bring in Tang Amaya and merge that Lady Shredder logically into the one we've already got and not only wrap up one unfinished story, but two while we're at it and in a meaningful fashion?

Gary was supportive of the change in direction and Ross was heavily involved in assisting writing much of the Lady Shredder material.

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That makes a lot more sense, thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 01-15-2015, 01:56 PM   #18
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Had the Image volume run for another 10-12 issues, I think Karai being Lady Shredder and Pimiko's mother could have been awesome. But for a two-issue wrap-up, I love what you guys did.

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Old 01-15-2015, 03:19 PM   #19
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I am so excited, I just bought these two. $70 is a little steap but they are a great thing to finish up volume 3.
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Old 01-15-2015, 05:07 PM   #20
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If I'm not mistaken, I think #24 only received an English language print run of 135 issues (100 first printing, 35 second print) and #25 also only received 135 issues for it's single run (with an additional 15 in Russian?).

They're actually some of the least printed TMNT issues out there, so worth scooping up while you can.
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