The 2024 presidential election

[Vegita-San]

people like rob paulsen and mark Hamil and christina applegate will never learn.

HOWEVER, in fairness to rob...I haven't seen a single political post from him in at least the last 7 months... either he wised up, saw what it was doing to hamil's rep....or his convention lines got shorter.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by sdp

We all know Biden voted for Trump

his wife did, at least. Biden probably thought he was voting for Elvis.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by IMJ

But hey - Trump haters - between that landslide win which means he has unprecedented national support, and YOUR opinions? Keep telling yourselves that YOUR the rationale ones and it's everyone ELSE who is nuts....

By that half-assed logic you must have been mentally unstable in 2020 yourself? Because the landslide win was for the other side back then? And then mental health in the USA somehow re-calibrated in the past four years and now YOU are sane and the Harris voters are not? Silly.

No, this has nothing to do with who is insane and who is not. This simply means that a majority of Americans embrace the populistic promises of the right, completely disregarding their fascist tendencies because far-right wing populism and propaganda right now are way more effective than anything on the left or in the center. That‘s all there is to it and the left needs to acknowledge it.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yes. And of course he was thinking about it. He just wasn't doing it with Trump, and seeing how Biden handled Afghanistan he'd be foolish to not invade Ukraine under anybody else's presidency.

You mean an exit plan devised by Trump and carried through by Biden? While you can blame Biden for not altering the strategy, he didn't come up with it.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Due to Biden pumping trillions of dollars of checks for people asked to stay home for two years and then the Inflation Reduction Act that only did the opposite.

That's not how that works.

To counter inflation, you need to put more money in peoples' pockets. You can either do that by paying them more, giving them handouts, or increasing interest rates so those saving "earn" more. Problem is, all three strategies also have their obvious downsides.

My message was though, anyone expecting grocery prices et al to start tumbling down during Trump's second term are in for a surprise...

[IndigoErth]

Laughable if anyone is naive enough to believe that numbers equals being right, let alone smart. It has always cycled back and forth forever, because it's an imperfect system and "all" things will never be great all at once, so no one will ever be happy with it and it's inevitable that Trump will get his party voted against in the next round. A lot of more rational Repub voters inevitably held their nose because they likewise had no candidate they actually liked, but aren't going to vote blue either way...

Let's not pretend that there isn't a concerning sizeable portion of too far gone Trump supporters who'd drink the funny fruit punch for him if he was vary minimally persuasive enough.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

He's probably the least empathic president I've ever seen. It's actually pretty sickening, some of the things you can watch. Like every single time he is invited (or invites himself) to a funeral, there he is always making a moral equivalence with his dead son Beau, who he continually lies about having died in the Iraq War.

I do believe and would agree that he/they really overplayed that hand. It was brought up too frequently in an effort to connect with people, because the human condition and loss is something none of us escape no matter how we vote or what we value.

However, overplaying it does not mean he isn't empathetic or meant well. Though some on this forum have never seemed to actually know how empathy actually works anyhow, since abrasiveness and seeing the worst in everything is most typical.

Granted, not just here, but much of the internet, sad to say. Humor and humility have disappeared. What's "funny" now is only in the sociopathic sense of seeing others hurt or unhappy. Very sickening.


Who says Beau died IN Iraq... literally everyone knows it was cancer. Exposure to burn pits while serving has been believed to be associated with cancer risk, but it's that part that he's associated his son's death with his service.

Thay may never know if it really was that, but I can't fault people expierencing such terrible loss of anyone too soon, esp their child, for finding something to blame other than just terrible luck and life being unfair. Nearly lost him once as a kid, only for life to give him brain cancer... I can understand wanting to find blame, rather than accept that life is that unfair.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

By that half-assed logic you must have been mentally unstable in 2020 yourself? Because the landslide win was for the other side back then? And then mental health in the USA somehow re-calibrated in the past four years and now YOU are sane and the Harris voters are not? Silly.

The definition of insanity is saying the same things over and over again and expecting a different result.


Guess what you just did:

No, this has nothing to do with who is insane and who is not. This simply means that a majority of Americans embrace the populistic promises of the right, completely disregarding their fascist tendencies because far-right wing populism and propaganda right now are way more effective than anything on the left or in the center. That‘s all there is to it and the left needs to acknowledge it.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

By that half-assed logic you must have been mentally unstable in 2020 yourself? Because the landslide win was for the other side back then? And then mental health in the USA somehow re-calibrated in the past four years and now YOU are sane and the Harris voters are not? Silly.

No, this has nothing to do with who is insane and who is not. This simply means that a majority of Americans embrace the populistic promises of the right, completely disregarding their fascist tendencies because far-right wing populism and propaganda right now are way more effective than anything on the left or in the center. That‘s all there is to it and the left needs to acknowledge it.

at LEAST 20 million votes from 2020 vanished in 2024. AND Box Trucks from California mysteriously started arriving at the 11th hour to michigan and probably other places as well.

we were sane in 2020, too.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The definition of insanity is saying the same things over and over again and expecting a different result.

One thing I'm hearing a lot on the interwebs is that a lot of young men were sick of constantly being blamed for all of society's ills, being called incels, racist, homophobes, literal Nazis, a lot of time with blanket terms like 'all white men' and stuff implying that all white men are naturally just born racist and all of that noise, so they decided to speak with their vote.

The general consensus now is that the left is blaming all the men, white, latinos, black, (even though we know a lot of us were rooting for Kamala), and are pretty much not learning their lesson from this election since they are still bashing men, even moreso now. I mean, the left is pretty much calling ALL Latinos illegals now.

All of these guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate and other right-wing grifters took in the guys that felt disenfranchised elsewhere.

Some of this mentality might have cost Kamala the election.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

at LEAST 20 million votes from 2020 vanished in 2024. AND Box Trucks from California mysteriously started arriving at the 11th hour to michigan and probably other places as well.

we were sane in 2020, too.

I do know box trucks full of ballots arrived around 2-3AM to PA. Since that was one of the bigger swing states as well as my former home, I was keeping track on the news regarding that.

I am honestly surprised PA turned red since the vast majority of people doing mail-in votes would have been lefties. You can't tell me those trucks had ballots for Trump in them.

Also, is the count still going? The numbers went up yesterday (still in Trump's favor though) and both Nevada and Arizona have yet to turn fully red.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

One thing I'm hearing a lot on the interwebs is that a lot of young men were sick of constantly being blamed for all of society's ills, being called incels, racist, homophobes, literal Nazis, a lot of time with blanket terms like 'all white men' and stuff implying that all white men are naturally just born racist and all of that noise, so they decided to speak with their vote.

And you heard right. The commotion from the 'tolerant' left for so long is world peace can only be achieved if you are inclusive of everyone, but also you should refuse to outright critique or hold to account the consequences of mass inclusion

This isn't a 'sunshine and rainbows' world. Most countries are run by utter chads. The ones that aren't are pretty much being overwhelmed by them from all sides. Tolerance is one thing, but it is nothing without strength, and Biden and Harris were not strong.

The general consensus now is that the left is blaming all the men, white, latinos, black, (even though we know a lot of us were rooting for Kamala), and are pretty much not learning their lesson from this election since they are still bashing men, even moreso now. I mean, the left is pretty much calling ALL Latinos illegals now.

All of these guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate and other right-wing grifters took in the guys that felt disenfranchised elsewhere.

Some of this mentality might have cost Kamala the election.

Yeah, and the recent "X amount of votes are missing" conspiracy on social media right now shows they're not above contesting the results of an election just as the right did in 2020. Will that lead to their own riot in January 20th? From the vibes I'm getting on the usual platforms, some are leaning in that direction.

I still consider myself 'left', I grew up in the Clinton years as a kid, I critiqued Bush and Blair as they opposed Iraq, Farenheight 9/11 is one of my favourite documentaries...but that's the thing, the latter was also a conspiracy movie, the left were indulging in all that unproven s*it before The Obama Deception and anything else made by Alex Jones. It all happened with Michael Moore in the 2000s when the left were the opposition.

Bush was the tyrant back then, Bush was 'worse than Hitler' and Bush did far, far worse in eight years in office than Trump ever achieved in four. Bush and Blair were legitimate war criminals...and they served full terms and, to this day, enjoy life largely off the public and political grid.

The bottom line is all those groups the left say they had their back for, that they would look out for and champion? They had no problem turning that map red. They don't care about a cause, politics isn't about 'causes', it's about the best qualified to run an economically sound country


And look at this, the first female Chief of Staff appointed...by Trump.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The definition of insanity is saying the same things over and over again and expecting a different result.


Guess what you just did:

I acknowledged that the far right is more efficient mobilizing people?! Your point is what?

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

One thing I'm hearing a lot on the interwebs is that a lot of young men were sick of constantly being blamed for all of society's ills, being called incels, racist, homophobes, literal Nazis, a lot of time with blanket terms like 'all white men' and stuff implying that all white men are naturally just born racist and all of that noise, so they decided to speak with their vote.

The general consensus now is that the left is blaming all the men, white, latinos, black, (even though we know a lot of us were rooting for Kamala), and are pretty much not learning their lesson from this election since they are still bashing men, even moreso now. I mean, the left is pretty much calling ALL Latinos illegals now.

All of these guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate and other right-wing grifters took in the guys that felt disenfranchised elsewhere.

Some of this mentality might have cost Kamala the election.

The loud Progressive individuals who make up the public face of the democratic party screamed to no end that they didnt need white people or men or people who arent in lockstep with them.

So...there was a huge response of "Ok"

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

I acknowledged that the far right is more efficient mobilizing people?! Your point is what?

Wait, you think Trump is "Far right"? He's probably the most moderate/centrist republican president we've seen in ages. And on every issue.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

All of these guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate and other right-wing grifters

Rogan is definitely a leftist but he's a pragmatic one. You can see him coming around to endorsing Trump almost in real-time during the last Musk interview when Musk really lays out the left's plan for illegals.

[Autbot_Benz]

[Andrew NDB]

[ResidentEvil7]

For the past few days I have been watching liberal reactions on YouTube and I'm having a great time watching them meltdown like snowflakes on a hot day, crying, screaming, going nuts. It's fun.

Some colleges canceled class Wednesday, and those that stayed open, provided kindergarten things like coloring books, play dough, puppies, "listening circles," group therapy. The schools are raising weak little crybabies instead of adults. This sort of thing happened the first time Trump got elected. Kids who never been told NO before, just can't handle it when things don't go their way.

Whaaaa...Whaaaa....Whaaaa!!!!!

Me:

[Andrew NDB]

I'm seeing a bit of scuttlebutt that the reason Kamala went home instead of even saying anything at all to her supporters on election night was because her people never even bothered to write her a concession speech, or really anything other than a victory speech.

As if it was just that totally unthinkable.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You can see him coming around to endorsing Trump almost in real-time during the last Musk interview when Musk really lays out the left's plan for illegals.

Which were....???

[Cowabung-Gal]

Remember this?

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Wait, you think Trump is "Far right"? He's probably the most moderate/centrist republican president we've seen in ages. And on every issue.

You keep throwing around terms like 'moderate' or 'communist' as if you knew what they mean but apparently you don't. Please stop.