07-14-2024, 08:58 PM | #81 |
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A 5.56 round doesn't graze a target without it being mangled in the process. The secret service shows up to a location DAYS before an event happens to check out all perimeters that may be considered red flags. Crooks was allowed to scale the roof IN FRONT OF EVERYONE with gun in hand and posted up. He was not eliminated then? The people behind Trump was acting off. Lady is seen standing up and sits down while looking in the direction where Crooks was. Shots ring out and she pulls out her phone while being totally calm filming the "shot" president. Instead of the secret service getting Trump out safe, he tells the to wait so he can get his bro fist moment. Hmmmm....
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Also, most civilian people don’t think logically when experiencing a crisis in the moment. People tend to assume the popping sound of gunshots are anything but until realization sinks in.
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07-14-2024, 09:46 PM | #83 |
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Still, it could've been a possibility that there could have been another active shooter. All other presidents got the hell out of the area when an attempt failed.
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07-14-2024, 10:53 PM | #84 |
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True, it's possible he'd supported Trump before, but has lost the love for him. And instead of doing it in support of Dems, since he's registered Repub, also possible he's a nutter who thought getting rid of Trump would then force a different Republican on the ballot.
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The right of the people, plural, collective all the population. If the Government was to say no one could have guns, that’s a pretty go against the wording statement. And there’s no definition about what arms. Most people generally don’t need semi automatic rifles. Those two things SHOULD be the role of the law to maintain safety, security, and reduce gun related crime. I’ve never advocated for guns to be banned in the US, just the checks and balances to be a lot more stringent than they are. But you’re essentially saying that mentally ill people should be allowed unlimited access to firearms because the Second Amendment trumps any government law. Gotcha. Answer me, which country has on average two mass killings per day? Because it isn’t here. And of the three major shooting incidents I can think of that prompted changes in the gun ownership laws here, two were carried out by determined mentally ill people. I won’t even go into the news that I saw this morning that a store in Texas (where else?!) has installed the first ammunition vending machine like you’re ordering from McDonalds. Waiting for that to get hacked and all the ammo dumped by someone unscrupulous. I’m intrigued by the “hurt people’s feelings in the UK” comment if you care to provide a link? Online abuse, racism and the such is being taken more seriously, simply because if you said it to that persons face, you’d get decked. So the cowards hide behind a screen.
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07-15-2024, 04:18 AM | #86 |
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Watch the real time assassination attempt on Trump from different angles. With countdown from footage of people warning authorities about the shooter to Trump being whisked away. https://x.com/themilkbartv/status/18...kOF_X1nUjKG4Dg
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07-15-2024, 05:43 AM | #87 |
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You can see pics where the bullet is literally at the angle of his ear. Trump is so damn lucky, if his head was not turned a slightly way or if he was standing two inches to the left, that bullet would have went into his skull and he'd be dead.
Trump lucks out of everything. Lucked into a presidency, survived covid, is not going to jail despite being found guilty on 32 charges, survives an assassination attempt, etc. Hell even a heart attack didn't do Trump in despite him being mostly overweight and not eating healthy his whole life at the age of 78. |
07-15-2024, 06:18 AM | #88 |
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I mean, the last American president who had no attempts at his life was Lyndon B. Johnson. So overall, it's just business as usual in the good ol' US of A.
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07-15-2024, 11:16 AM | #89 |
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Has Obama ever had attempts, I don't remember any. I always thought there would be attempts on his life during the inauguration due to the 'I don't want no black guy in the White House' or some nonsense. At least the first time around.
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First link on Google, but maybe not was I was thinking of: https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKCN11P21P/ EDIT: It DOES have its own Wiki though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securi...g_Barack_Obama
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07-15-2024, 01:15 PM | #91 |
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He only did that so he could vote against him. He's given money to democrats.
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Here's another writeup on the engima that is Crooks: https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-finds...115246867.html
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Report of a local officer attempting to engage the suspect on the roof prior to the shots, but ducking for cover in self-defense which was shortly followed by shots at the podium:
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07-15-2024, 04:29 PM | #95 |
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Trump's entire life story is like is like a long running TV series with many twists and turns. This season finale plot twist of him getting his ear shot and surviving by a 2 inch assassination attempt was a great final episode!
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It's good Oliver Stone wanted to wait to make the movie.
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If it makes you feel better about it, I am sure the founding fathers knew that the machine gun had been invented something like 1718 so its pretty safe to think they would understand one day we would have better weapons that could shoot faster. Quote:
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The discussion was solely about US versus UK here. Anyhow, by the general definition of a mass shooting in the US (at least three people dead excluding the perpetrator) I believe you’re wrong, the US incurs the most per year.
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He made a dog salute because he wanted to make his Girlfriend mad as a joke. So no, not Nazi. Making fun of Nazis.
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