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And considering the same people, minus Liebesman, are involved that's more than enough reason for me to have no trust in them. Quote:
Doesn't change the fact that it was still considered to be terrible by critics and fans.
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Basic things have been staples of the origin since their conception. Hamato Yoshi being one of them. No where to be seen here. They screwed up, because the basic story was "too complicated to tell." Even though they complicated it up themselves by forcefully, unnecesarily shoving Megan O'Fox into the thing. Quote:
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Which still doesn't make it a good movie.
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Well if you're expecting Casablanca then no, but I'm not trying to say it's a great movie but it's a decent movie and doesn't deserve the hate that it gets. The quotes you are getting from me are in reply to that specific conversation that says the critics opinion and divisive fan opinion prove that the movie sucks. Umm..no. Critics are usually a good gauge but they also rate great movies badly. The fact that it has a divisive fan opinion proves it's not terrible. Most everyone agree that TNM sucks for example, that's not really divisive in the fanbase so that means the 2014 film did something right. It also did something right because it made money and people generally liked it which is something the 2007 film was never able to achieve. So yeah critics and half of the fanbase didnt' like it, that's far from the worst movie and they ruined the turtles and raped my childhood comments you see posted. Of course the movie had flaws but I still believe as of right now it's redeemable, not saying it will but the first movie doesn't make me want to jump ship from the new movie franchise.
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No. Nobody is expecting Casablanca. We are expecting a competently written, acted, directed movie as well as faithful to the overarching Turtle lore.
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Exactly. No, I don't expect Casablanca or Citizen Kane, but it could have been Guardians of the Galaxy. Instead we get Batman Forever (or maybe "And Robin")
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This. Exactly this.
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And I don't see how you were expecting those things from the 2014 movie since we knew fairly early this was not going to be the case, you easily had almost 2 years worth of warning that it wasn't going to be a traditional TMNT movie. Also there is no faithful overarching TMNT lore, all TMNT continuities go their own way, unless you mean the movie Laird was planning which pretty much died the day Viacom bought the turtles. |
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Acting abilities has me worried. Script has me worried though I do like the set of characters that are being used. Best set of any film thus far. That was the same thing Batman Forever had going for me since Robin and Riddler are two of top favorites.
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I would never have expected this. Sheamus is good at playing the obnoxious thug type though so this could be fun.
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Plus hes Irish, So are we getting an Irish Rocksteady? We already have a Russian Rocksteady in the Nick cartoon.
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ridiculous. but fairly spot on
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05-28-2015, 09:22 PM | #57 |
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You know, I get the negativity, I really do. I cried foul when I first heard the name Micheal Bay and "ALIEN TURTLES", hated the way the turtles looked in the first reveal, the first mention of Eric Sachs as Shredder and avoided the film like the plague when it hit theaters. And I didn't pay a dime to see it when it finally hit my local library. Once I saw it I cringed about how badly they f'd up the origin story and the lack of Yoshi/Saki back story. Just shaking my head the whole time "WHY? WHY? WHY DID YOU CHANGE THAT??" ...And yet, the performances of the 4 turtles kind of won me over, after having to do the mental gymnastics of saying, "Hey maybe if they changed this and this, it would be better" ......having said all that, it seems like they are doing some significant course correction and with the exception of Fox/Arnett this is coming across as a soft reboot. First they hired new director who's debut film is nothing like Liebesman and secondly they it looks like we are getting an actual ninja Foot clan, a non-Transformer Shredder, cartoon-accurate versions of Bebop and Rocksteady, and Casey Jones.
I just don't get he unstoppable hate train that keeps continuing with each new pic from this film. I get the mentality of "Once bitten, twice shy.", but this film looks like it has a lot more going for it than the first. I'm hopeful. There are many in-story ways then can re-con the first one or they can just ignore it all together. We still have no idea what the turtles will look like in the sequel. |
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There are exciting elements to this production, no doubt about it, but these elements are in the hands of some questionable people. As far as the turtles looks are concerned, this piece (as well as the original maquettes that match it) is on set, confirming they look the same- & lest anyone say "Look, there's less gear! They're changing things!" remember the original pieces don't have that gear, either.
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Well the turtles are CG so anything can change up to the last minute. Hell they added a real shredder last time to the movie. That maquette is pretty cool though reminds me of composite-superman.
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