10-19-2022, 07:47 PM | #21 | |
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So yeah, it's not so surprising that voice actors would miss an episode or two, considering the series went on for a decade and they also worked on other projects. Rob Paulsen had Mighty Max, James Avery had Fresh Prince, etc. |
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10-19-2022, 08:41 PM | #22 |
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Even shows with much higher budgets than the TMNT cartoon weren't letting people record from home or remotely or anything like that. Up until the late-90s/early-2000s it was still expected that the voice cast would all record out of one central location most of the time.
See the incident with the Maude Flanders voice actress. The studio wouldn't let her work remotely and they wouldn't cover the travel expenses of flying her in to do the recording, so they let the actress go and killed her character off out of spite just to save a few dollars. The Simpsons had a much bigger budget than FW TMNT so if they still were requiring people to record out of a central location then I assume that was the standard practice everywhere. Regardless of available technology, a lot of business stick to the method of "We've always done it this way, we're keeping it this way" simply out of habit and routine, even if it causes them back-end problems they didn't foresee.
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10-20-2022, 01:48 PM | #23 | |
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10-20-2022, 01:50 PM | #24 | |
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I have a feeling the same thing probably happened with James Avery, although when I asked him direct, felt like he was skirting around it saying his contract just ended. which you'd think was a simple thing to fix, and they usually don't end mid season.
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10-20-2022, 01:52 PM | #25 |
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To be fair, I think the guy who replaced Paulsen in season 10 did an alright job. At least compared to previous replacement VAs who were all pretty much terrible.
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10-20-2022, 01:53 PM | #26 | |
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I think 96 Raph and Euro Raph where my Favorite Replacements. I can't watch the episodes in 1989 with that Replacement Raph. Who, IIRC, I think also voiced a nuetrino. It's way too high pitched and grating. The other two got the acting and the voice right, without trying to be a direct copy.
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Also actors who have another notable character he/she voices should not use the exact same voice for another character. Greg Berg voicing Donatello for a half dozen episodes using his Skeeter voice, makes me think Fred Wolf thought, 'oh, you voice a computer nerd so you should fill in for the computer nerd on my show'. His Bebop voice was fine though. Barry Gordon became the Screen Actors Guild President around the time he missed a few episodes. I wonder if that is what caused him to miss. It was just around the time of the 1989 episodes that he missed unlike Paulsen and Avery.
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10-22-2022, 12:46 PM | #28 |
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VAs been gettin' disrespected for eons now
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I still find it surprising he didn't voice Raph for the final season, especially since that season was a few episodes. Like who even tells him 'Raphael can be replaced' when the show is on its final run.
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Interesting to see that this thread has some momentum again after I originally started this so many years ago. It was around the time I first joined this board after becoming re-hooked to the series and back into the fandom.
Anyway, I really didn't like Hal's voice as Raph and Donatello had some stinkers too, but whoever voiced Raph in the last season wasn't so bad. I didn't mind him. Given how long the show went on, it's not surprising that they did have to have stand-ins on occasion. What I do find amazing, though, is that Leonardo and Michelangelo never had alternates, as Cam Clarke and Townsend Coleman was around for the entire run. Now, I will say this....the European Vacation ep voices (not counting Leo and Mikey) were just awful...terribly awful. The voice work was ear-grating. I don't recall if Avery was voicing Shredder for those eps...my mind is a blank. lolYeah, they have. When it comes to movies, I blame the original Lion King for that trend. I didn't think anything of it back then, but they did advertise all of the celebrities doing roles in that film. There was so much star power. I'm even a bit guilty of wanting to see the movie because Jonathan Taylor Thomas was voicing Simba and I was a JTT fangirl at the time. IMO, this ruined how voice actors were treated, and come on! Look at Jim Cummings for that film! Amazing work taking over some of Irons' parts almost impeccably! Look at how animated films are now...they're so focused on the celebrities as opposed to the movie's plot and stuff. I miss having voice actors in these films, not a bunch of celebrities. Last edited by ssjup81; 10-23-2022 at 10:37 AM. |
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I did see an interview or article many years ago, where the dispute ended with:
V: You know the voice of Raphael IS replaceable (as heard in the few S3 episodes with an alternate VA and of course the European episodes). I of course don't know the reason Rob was replaced in the above episodes and the same happened with Barry's Donatello in those same circumstances. But it just shows that there's always a plan B. Just like S2 Power Rangers. |
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