Fear Street Trilogy

*The Deadman* · 07-13-2021, 09:52 AM

Who's watched the first 2 Fear Street movies on Netflix? They're incredibly gory and the 2nd one, while it was good, reminded me too much of Friday the 13th mixed with Evil Dead. Who else has watched?

*Allio* · 07-30-2021, 01:40 AM

Fine cheesy flick. I think I liked the second out the first two better, but that’s because I think the possessed killers are the best parts. The first film just felt very YA typical but I liked the slasher ghosts.

*The Deadman* · 07-30-2021, 07:30 AM

Yeah everyone I've talked to has said the 2nd one is the best out of the 3.

*CyberCubed* · 07-30-2021, 08:03 AM

I thought it was really weird they were trying to pass off a lesbian High school romance set in 1994. The girls were written as if they were modern day 2020+ kids....not kids from 1994 where the first movie was set.

Back then you would never see people being openly lesbian in High School, hell even in the early 2000's when I was in High School it wasn't like that. Two girls in a natural lesbian relationship back in 1994...makes no sense. There was no lesbians back then, at least not in High School.

*newfan* · 07-30-2021, 08:21 AM

Yeah watched all 3, as a whole not a bad 3 part story. I thought the second was the best also.

*The Deadman* · 07-30-2021, 08:22 AM

Cubed confirmed there were no gay people in 1994. This is a new thing, apparently.

*CyberCubed* · 07-30-2021, 01:01 PM

Not in High Schools, there wasn't. There were no lesbian schoolgirls in 1994. The girls were written with a 2021 mindset in mind, not how things were in 1994.

*Allio* · 07-30-2021, 01:12 PM

Cubed is off his meds again.

*IndigoErth* · 07-30-2021, 01:27 PM

I've seen all three, a pretty decent watch overall.

Spoiler:

Speaking as one of those whom 1994 was indeed part of my high school years, yeah, gay/lesbian couples existed in high school back then. Do I recall any that were totally open about that? No, and understandably given the amount of prejudice then vs now, but there was one pair of girls I think most people probably suspected, but didn't question it. Maybe they were just really good friends, but the vibe you get from them kind of felt like it may have been more than that.

Want a real shocker, Cubed... My school had one student a grade ahead of me who today would probably be considered an openly trans girl.

Back then we just saw him as the guy who cross dressed and preferred to identity as a girl, as the whole "trans" term and topic wasn't really around yet. But I have no doubt that she probably went on to continue to live life as a woman after high school. (Luckily the nature of this school allowed this student to more or less get by without much trouble from others compared to how most other schools would be.)

edit: How old were you even in 1994 Cubed? Not like you were anywhere near high school yet, let alone conscious of those topics.

*CyberCubed* · 07-30-2021, 02:00 PM

I was 9 years old in 1994. Still, lesbian teenagers weren't much a thing at the time, they weren't when I was in High School in the early 2000's. The movie was written as if they were 2020 High School kids.

There was no lesbians in schools in 1994.

*The Deadman* · 07-30-2021, 07:56 PM

So you were 9 in 1994 but somehow know there were no lesbians in high school of all places in '94.

I'm headdesking. Lets get back on topic, lol.

*sdp* · 07-30-2021, 08:27 PM

I was a little kid, I would go to bookstores in the mid 90s, Goosebumps was HUGE, we all knew the name of RL Stine. I was always curious about the other books, but they seemed less interesting since they didn't have cartoony looking monsters on the covers. But they sure knew how to market them, RL Stine's name is bigger than the title of the books.

Did anyone actually read any of those books as kids? Clearly they were not for someone my age but they also don't seem like they were for teenagers, most likely for tweens and kids who had outgrown goosebumps but were still under 12 I guess. Do these movies actually adapt any books or themes? Were they an anthology series like Goosebumps or did they actually have a storyline?

*Leo656* · 07-30-2021, 09:19 PM

I was a Freshman in 1996 and I knew plenty of gay people, guys and girls. Especially in the Drama club, where it seemed like being gay or bi was a requirement for joining. Everybody knew who they were, they didn't exactly go out of their way to hide it.

One time one of my buddies came over on a Satuday, which was a bit surprising because I think he'd been planning on hanging out with this girl we were friends with, or something. So I'm like, "I thought you were hanging out with so-and-so today?" And he's like, "I guess she forgot... I went over there, knocked on the door, nobody answered... I peeked in through the window and (this other girl we knew) was sucking her pussy on the couch. So I figured they were busy, so I just came over here instead."

That story got out, people would kinda tease the two girls about it but they'd just laugh it off. They both still had sex with plenty of the guys at school, but apparently they liked to spend a little time alone together, too. Oh well. Nobody gave a sh*t.

Granted, it was 1996 and not 1994, but I don't think the entire world changed so dramatically in that two-year gap.

Cubed, y'all need Jesus brother.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-30-2021, 09:37 PM

All of middle school and high school in my Seattle area there were no gays or lesbians in the schools I attended through 1999. Certainly no lesbians. A couple of girls pretended to be bi, but just to impress guys when they made out with other girls at parties. And dudes, there was just "weird" dudes who people would whisper about "I bet that dude is gay!" but there was never really ever any proof. There was certainly no dudes or chicks holding hands in the hall or anything.

Were there probably gays and lesbians in schools in 1994? Probably. But it definitely wasn't like "proudly celebrated" or normalized by any means. At least out this way, even by 1999.

*CyberCubed* · 07-30-2021, 10:04 PM

Yeah, there were no open gay/lesbian people in my high school (I was in High school from 2000-2003, so even "later" than you guys in the 90's), and so forth. Sure a couple of girls sometimes made-out with each other, but again that was just to turn guys on or because they dared them to do it...they weren't lesbian/bi-sexual at all.

This movie wrote the two main girls as openly lesbian and proud....in 1994. Again if this movie was set in 2020-2021..it'd be a different thing because the world is different now and these girls would have grown up more exposed to gays. Remember there was also no real internet in 1994, and very few people had home computers back then, so most people also had no idea what was going on outside their specific schoolyard or other gays in other places.

When I was a kid we all knew the phrase, "No homo" and it was a solemn vow made by all kids in the 90's and early 2000's.

*Leo656* · 07-30-2021, 10:31 PM

It's almost like different people have different experiences, or something.

In NJ, 1996-2000... lots and lots of gay and bi people. Including some of the teachers. No big deal. No f*cks were given by anyone, ever. "That sh*t's your business."

And I don't care WHERE you lived... if you knew people in Drama Club, you knew gay people. I've talked about the cast parties at my school before; everybody f*cking everybody else like it was backstage at a Fleetwood Mac concert. I'm pretty sure it wasn't only at this one high school. Although to be fair, my school did kick all kinds'a ass. But I refuse to believe these were localized, isolated incidents.

The one situation that caused a ton of gossip, though, was between the head cheerleader and her boyfriend - both of whom were in Drama together as well. They went together for most of high school, couple years, one of those relationships people figure will still be going on after graduation. Senior year, her family goes on vacation to someplace tropic over Spring Break, they take the guy with them because he's "family", you know how it is. She figures he's gonna propose to her... instead, he tells her he's really sorry and still wants to be friends but he's figured out that he's gay and wants to break up.

I felt bad for her - although I'd asked her out once and she turned me down, so not TOO bad. But oh man, THAT had everybody at school talking for a few weeks. "Did you hear _____ is GAY? He was f*cking the hottest girl in school the last three years, when the f*ck was he ever gay?!"

But sh*t happens. In hindsight, it should've been kinda obvious, I thought; dude dressed way too "clean" and he did kinda have a lisp. Nice guy, though.

There were rumors that she was a little bit "swishy" with some of her girl friends, but that was never corroborated to my knowledge. I know her one friend was openly bi and was TRYING to talk her into hooking up, but I don't know if they ever did.

Sh*t happens. And it happened back then, too. If people weren't talking about it, you probably lived in a place where you'd get beaten up for being "out", so obviously they wouldn't talk about it. Over here, some of the queer folks were some of the most popular kids in school. And again, yes, everybody - everybody - knew they were gay.

I think some of you folks either led sheltered lives OR had your blinders on at times.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-30-2021, 10:32 PM

Maybe that's an east coast thing. I was in the drama club in high school and didn't know of anybody. And everything I see of them now on like FB... they all turned out straight.

*Leo656* · 07-30-2021, 10:45 PM

Maybe? I don't know, man. So long as there's been an "acting community", huge chunks of that community have been gay. That's never been any secret. High school, local theater, Broadway, Hollywood... tons of gays, always was and always will be. Gay people are attracted to the theater and performing in general. They're flamboyant by nature, so it makes sense.

Lotta the kids in Choir, too. To the point where people jokingly called Choir Club "Queer Club".

Forgot to mention all the lesbians my wife was friends with in high school. I tried to get her to hook up with some of 'em - they were super-hot - but she was never interested. Some of them did hit on her but she wasn't into it. One time I kinda half-jokingly told the one girl I could "fix her" if she gave me a chance, she just pointed at my chick and was like "No thanks, but if she wants to kick it just say when and I'm down!"

Some of the girls I was really close friends with also knew they were gay but were keeping it under wraps because most of the people we knew were people we'd known for years since we were kids. They didn't want to hook up with someone they went to middle school with, it'd be "awkward". But they were like, "I can't wait to go to college, I am just dying to start f*cking girls already but I don't wanna do it with people I like know, that'd be weird."

Diff'rent strokes to move the world. ((shrug))

As for the ones who "turned out straight", you never know. Most of the people I knew in high school are "straight-married", too... BUT they definitely "experimented" a lot in high school and college. I'm legit surprised at some of them being married to people of the opposite sex, because at one point they definitely "preferred their own kind".

Course, nowadays it's more acceptable to be bi and still marry someone of the opposite sex, too. Just because someone is married, doesn't mean they're "straight". Just saying.

*Turo602* · 07-30-2021, 11:19 PM

Cubed must've been one of those kids that got transferred to like every school.

*CyberCubed* · 07-31-2021, 12:03 AM

I was in the same High school the whole way through (and Junior and elementary before that).

Somehow even without the internet or cell phones, we all still knew the phrase, "No homo." I don't know if the kids today still say that, probably not, but it was like something EVERYONE said back then.

"No homo." The solemn vow by every 90's and early 2000's kid.

07-13-2021, 09:52 AM	#1
The Deadman Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,989	Fear Street Trilogy Who's watched the first 2 Fear Street movies on Netflix? They're incredibly gory and the 2nd one, while it was good, reminded me too much of Friday the 13th mixed with Evil Dead. Who else has watched? __________________ Last Movie Watched: Hell House LLC (2015). Last TV Show Watched: Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog (S1:E29).

07-30-2021, 01:40 AM	#2
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,085	Fine cheesy flick. I think I liked the second out the first two better, but that’s because I think the possessed killers are the best parts. The first film just felt very YA typical but I liked the slasher ghosts. __________________ Last edited by Allio; 07-30-2021 at 02:30 AM.

07-30-2021, 07:30 AM	#3
The Deadman Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,989	Yeah everyone I've talked to has said the 2nd one is the best out of the 3. __________________ Last Movie Watched: Hell House LLC (2015). Last TV Show Watched: Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog (S1:E29).

07-30-2021, 08:22 AM	#6
The Deadman Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,989	Cubed confirmed there were no gay people in 1994. This is a new thing, apparently. __________________ Last Movie Watched: Hell House LLC (2015). Last TV Show Watched: Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog (S1:E29).

07-30-2021, 01:12 PM	#8
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,085	Cubed is off his meds again. __________________

07-30-2021, 08:03 AM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	I thought it was really weird they were trying to pass off a lesbian High school romance set in 1994. The girls were written as if they were modern day 2020+ kids....not kids from 1994 where the first movie was set. Back then you would never see people being openly lesbian in High School, hell even in the early 2000's when I was in High School it wasn't like that. Two girls in a natural lesbian relationship back in 1994...makes no sense. There was no lesbians back then, at least not in High School.

07-30-2021, 08:21 AM	#5
newfan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,393	Yeah watched all 3, as a whole not a bad 3 part story. I thought the second was the best also.

07-30-2021, 01:01 PM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	Not in High Schools, there wasn't. There were no lesbian schoolgirls in 1994. The girls were written with a 2021 mindset in mind, not how things were in 1994.

07-30-2021, 01:27 PM	#9
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 15,242	I've seen all three, a pretty decent watch overall. Spoiler: My only complaint really, and found a bit of an odd choice, is using actors from the first two parts to also portray characters in the 3rd without those characters being the direct ancestors of the other ones. Seemed the cop is the only one that was true for? Was expecting the rest to tie together like that, but of course some of them died in their youth. Spoiler since this is a 3-parter. Speaking as one of those whom 1994 was indeed part of my high school years, yeah, gay/lesbian couples existed in high school back then. Do I recall any that were totally open about that? No, and understandably given the amount of prejudice then vs now, but there was one pair of girls I think most people probably suspected, but didn't question it. Maybe they were just really good friends, but the vibe you get from them kind of felt like it may have been more than that. Want a real shocker, Cubed... My school had one student a grade ahead of me who today would probably be considered an openly trans girl. Back then we just saw him as the guy who cross dressed and preferred to identity as a girl, as the whole "trans" term and topic wasn't really around yet. But I have no doubt that she probably went on to continue to live life as a woman after high school. (Luckily the nature of this school allowed this student to more or less get by without much trouble from others compared to how most other schools would be.) edit: How old were you even in 1994 Cubed? Not like you were anywhere near high school yet, let alone conscious of those topics. Last edited by IndigoErth; 07-30-2021 at 01:33 PM.

07-30-2021, 02:00 PM	#10
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	I was 9 years old in 1994. Still, lesbian teenagers weren't much a thing at the time, they weren't when I was in High School in the early 2000's. The movie was written as if they were 2020 High School kids. There was no lesbians in schools in 1994.

07-30-2021, 07:56 PM	#11
The Deadman Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,989	So you were 9 in 1994 but somehow know there were no lesbians in high school of all places in '94. I'm headdesking. Lets get back on topic, lol. __________________ Last Movie Watched: Hell House LLC (2015). Last TV Show Watched: Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog (S1:E29).

07-30-2021, 08:27 PM	#12
sdp Megan Fox = April Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 9,999	I was a little kid, I would go to bookstores in the mid 90s, Goosebumps was HUGE, we all knew the name of RL Stine. I was always curious about the other books, but they seemed less interesting since they didn't have cartoony looking monsters on the covers. But they sure knew how to market them, RL Stine's name is bigger than the title of the books. Did anyone actually read any of those books as kids? Clearly they were not for someone my age but they also don't seem like they were for teenagers, most likely for tweens and kids who had outgrown goosebumps but were still under 12 I guess. Do these movies actually adapt any books or themes? Were they an anthology series like Goosebumps or did they actually have a storyline? __________________ *Bye* *TMNT !!! I'm unaliving tonight* Click to join The Drome Discord server

07-30-2021, 09:19 PM	#13
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	I was a Freshman in 1996 and I knew plenty of gay people, guys and girls. Especially in the Drama club, where it seemed like being gay or bi was a requirement for joining. Everybody knew who they were, they didn't exactly go out of their way to hide it. One time one of my buddies came over on a Satuday, which was a bit surprising because I think he'd been planning on hanging out with this girl we were friends with, or something. So I'm like, "I thought you were hanging out with so-and-so today?" And he's like, "I guess she forgot... I went over there, knocked on the door, nobody answered... I peeked in through the window and (this other girl we knew) was sucking her pussy on the couch. So I figured they were busy, so I just came over here instead." That story got out, people would kinda tease the two girls about it but they'd just laugh it off. They both still had sex with plenty of the guys at school, but apparently they liked to spend a little time alone together, too. Oh well. Nobody gave a sht. Granted, it was 1996 and not 1994, but I don't think the entire world changed so dramatically in that two-year gap. Cubed, y'all need Jesus brother. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know."* nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Leo656; 07-30-2021 at 09:25 PM.

07-30-2021, 09:37 PM	#14
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,273	All of middle school and high school in my Seattle area there were no gays or lesbians in the schools I attended through 1999. Certainly no lesbians. A couple of girls pretended to be bi, but just to impress guys when they made out with other girls at parties. And dudes, there was just "weird" dudes who people would whisper about "I bet that dude is gay!" but there was never really ever any proof. There was certainly no dudes or chicks holding hands in the hall or anything. Were there probably gays and lesbians in schools in 1994? Probably. But it definitely wasn't like "proudly celebrated" or normalized by any means. At least out this way, even by 1999. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

07-30-2021, 10:04 PM	#15
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	Yeah, there were no open gay/lesbian people in my high school (I was in High school from 2000-2003, so even "later" than you guys in the 90's), and so forth. Sure a couple of girls sometimes made-out with each other, but again that was just to turn guys on or because they dared them to do it...they weren't lesbian/bi-sexual at all. This movie wrote the two main girls as openly lesbian and proud....in 1994. Again if this movie was set in 2020-2021..it'd be a different thing because the world is different now and these girls would have grown up more exposed to gays. Remember there was also no real internet in 1994, and very few people had home computers back then, so most people also had no idea what was going on outside their specific schoolyard or other gays in other places. When I was a kid we all knew the phrase, "No homo" and it was a solemn vow made by all kids in the 90's and early 2000's.

07-30-2021, 10:31 PM	#16
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	It's almost like different people have different experiences, or something. In NJ, 1996-2000... lots and lots of gay and bi people. Including some of the teachers. No big deal. No fcks were given by anyone, ever. "That sht's your business." And I don't care WHERE you lived... if you knew people in Drama Club, you knew gay people. I've talked about the cast parties at my school before; everybody fcking everybody else like it was backstage at a Fleetwood Mac concert. I'm pretty sure it wasn't only at this one high school. Although to be fair, my school did kick all kinds'a ass. But I refuse to believe these were localized, isolated incidents. The one situation that caused a ton of gossip, though, was between the head cheerleader and her boyfriend - both of whom were in Drama together as well. They went together for most of high school, couple years, one of those relationships people figure will still be going on after graduation. Senior year, her family goes on vacation to someplace tropic over Spring Break, they take the guy with them because he's "family", you know how it is. She figures he's gonna propose to her... instead, he tells her he's really sorry and still wants to be friends but he's figured out that he's gay and wants to break up. I felt bad for her - although I'd asked her out once and she turned me down, so not TOO bad. But oh man, THAT had everybody at school talking for a few weeks. "Did you hear _____ is GAY? He was fcking the hottest girl in school the last three years, when the fck was he ever gay?!" But sht happens. In hindsight, it should've been kinda obvious, I thought; dude dressed way too "clean" and he did kinda have a lisp. Nice guy, though. There were rumors that she was a little bit "swishy" with some of her girl friends, but that was never corroborated to my knowledge. I know her one friend was openly bi and was TRYING to talk her into hooking up, but I don't know if they ever did. Sht happens. And it happened back then, too. If people weren't talking about it, you probably lived in a place where you'd get beaten up for being "out", so obviously they wouldn't talk about it. Over here, some of the queer folks were some of the most popular kids in school. And again, yes, everybody - everybody* - knew they were gay. I think some of you folks either led sheltered lives OR had your blinders on at times. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

07-30-2021, 10:32 PM	#17
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,273	Maybe that's an east coast thing. I was in the drama club in high school and didn't know of anybody. And everything I see of them now on like FB... they all turned out straight. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

07-30-2021, 10:45 PM	#18
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	Maybe? I don't know, man. So long as there's been an "acting community", huge chunks of that community have been gay. That's never been any secret. High school, local theater, Broadway, Hollywood... tons of gays, always was and always will be. Gay people are attracted to the theater and performing in general. They're flamboyant by nature, so it makes sense. Lotta the kids in Choir, too. To the point where people jokingly called Choir Club "Queer Club". Forgot to mention all the lesbians my wife was friends with in high school. I tried to get her to hook up with some of 'em - they were super-hot - but she was never interested. Some of them did hit on her but she wasn't into it. One time I kinda half-jokingly told the one girl I could "fix her" if she gave me a chance, she just pointed at my chick and was like "No thanks, but if she wants to kick it just say when and I'm down!" Some of the girls I was really close friends with also knew they were gay but were keeping it under wraps because most of the people we knew were people we'd known for years since we were kids. They didn't want to hook up with someone they went to middle school with, it'd be "awkward". But they were like, "I can't wait to go to college, I am just dying to start fcking girls already but I don't wanna do it with people I like know, that'd be weird." Diff'rent strokes to move the world. ((shrug)) As for the ones who "turned out straight", you never know. Most of the people I knew in high school are "straight-married", too... BUT they definitely "experimented" a lot in high school and college. I'm legit surprised at some of them being married to people of the opposite sex, because at one point they definitely "preferred their own kind". Course, nowadays it's more acceptable to be bi and still marry someone of the opposite sex, too. Just because someone is married, doesn't mean they're "straight". Just saying. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know."* nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

07-30-2021, 11:19 PM	#19
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	Cubed must've been one of those kids that got transferred to like every school. __________________

07-31-2021, 12:03 AM	#20
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	I was in the same High school the whole way through (and Junior and elementary before that). Somehow even without the internet or cell phones, we all still knew the phrase, "No homo." I don't know if the kids today still say that, probably not, but it was like something EVERYONE said back then. "No homo." The solemn vow by every 90's and early 2000's kid.