We are lucky fans - Page 2

*ZariusTwo* · 03-24-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz

Like most things in life, it's complex and isn't a simple "either have it this or way or don't". To make it simple though I would have preferred a live action movie that involved Krang..

Just say what you're thinking please. You're an original cartoon elitist.

Peanut · 03-24-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Just say what you're thinking please. You're an original cartoon elitist.

Dun dun DUUUUUUUUN!

**Jester** · 03-24-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Just say what you're thinking please. You're an original cartoon elitist.

I can find out for ya Z, just a sec:

blueoakleyz, did you expect the 2 mutants from TMNT 2 to be Bebop and Rocksteady and were you upset when they weren't?
and...did you want Shredder, Krang and the Technodrome for TMNT 3?

*VaughnMichael* · 03-24-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I can find out for ya Z, just a sec:

blueoakleyz, did you expect the 2 mutants from TMNT 2 to be Bebop and Rocksteady and were you upset when they weren't?
and...did you want Shredder, Krang and the Technodrome for TMNT 3?

hahah I sure did when I was a kid!

*ZariusTwo* · 03-24-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I can find out for ya Z, just a sec:

blueoakleyz, did you expect the 2 mutants from TMNT 2 to be Bebop and Rocksteady and were you upset when they weren't?
and...did you want Shredder, Krang and the Technodrome for TMNT 3?

...Well I sure as hell did

**Jester** · 03-24-2007, 10:52 PM

OLD TOON ELITISTS!!! Both of you....ok...I did too. Tokka/Rahzar Bebop/Rocksteady thing that is...

I mean come on, wouldn't it be cool to hear movie Shredder scream:
"Bebop, Rocksteady! DESTROY THEM!!!"

*VaughnMichael* · 03-24-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

OLD TOON ELITISTS!!! Both of you....ok...I did too. Tokka/Rahzar Bebop/Rocksteady thing that is...

I mean come on, wouldn't it be cool to here movie Shredder scream:
"Bebop, Rocksteady! DESTROY THEM!!!"

you almost made me drop and F bomb! lmao!

would have read F@+K YES! lol

CJStyles · 03-24-2007, 11:14 PM

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The human characters were just non proportional and looked really bad. Perhaps it was for the best that they said "Screw it lets just make them cartoony so people will know that's what they were going for" because if they had gone for realistic, even if something slight was off/inaccurate, humans are adept at noticing even if they don't know exactly WHAT it is they're noticing. Ever see something and say "That doesn't look quite right... I can't put my finger on why though"? So maybe that's what they thought.. I'd still prefer realistic humans.

You want realistic? Then go watch Final Fantasy

**Jo Dawn** · 03-24-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I mean come on, wouldn't it be cool to hear movie Shredder scream:
"Bebop, Rocksteady! DESTROY THEM!!!"

No.

And duuuuude, oakley... Krang isn't coming back. Get over it, dude.

As per the thread? Yes. We are very lucky.

*Ecto Jedi* · 03-24-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

As per the thread? Yes. We are very lucky.

We'd be even luckier with a kick-ass Extended Edition DVD and a sequel in the bag. Natch.

*VaughnMichael* · 03-24-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

No.

And duuuuude, oakley... Krang isn't coming back. Get over it, dude.

As per the thread? Yes. We are very lucky.

you're such a black cloud Jo you know that *takes turtle com back off you*

Fledermaus · 03-24-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CJStyles

You want realistic? Then go watch Final Fantasy

Pixar Director Andrew Stanton states: "Animation should be interpretive, not realistic."

Don't try so hard to make a carbon copy of the real world. The entire idea of these kinds of movies is that we make a false world, a fantasy world, believable.

And holy crap, there's an awesome article from AWN I have to show you guys!

**Jo Dawn** · 03-24-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

you're such a black cloud Jo you know that *takes turtle com back off you*

Nu uh! Nu uh!

Gimmee that back!! I loved this movie plenty!

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We'd be even luckier with a kick-ass Extended Edition DVD and a sequel in the bag. Natch.

Heck yes!! *Looks pleadingly at Kevin, batting her eyelashes*

**Jester** · 03-24-2007, 11:29 PM

The problem with doing "realistic" CGI is that it always will look fake. Humans know from years of experience what other "real" humans look like. Even the slightest flaw is blown up. Watch Spider-man (love the film don't get me wrong). You can tell when it's really Toby or a stunt actor and when it's CG. The reason the humans in TMNT look cartoony is because they were supposed to. It takes you out of the real world and into the world as it relates to the characters. if the human characters had been photo realistic, I'm not sure how I'd like TMNT. Maybe a good mix of CG and live action, but even then, it's probably look fake.

blueoakleyz · 03-24-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

The problem with doing "realistic" CGI is that it always will look fake. Humans know from years of experience what other "real" humans look like. Even the slightest flaw is blown up. Watch Spider-man (love the film don't get me wrong). You can tell when it's really Toby or a stunt actor and when it's CG. The reason the humans in TMNT look cartoony is because they were supposed to. It takes you out of the real world and into the world as it relates to the characters. if the human characters had been photo realistic, I'm not sure how I'd like TMNT. Maybe a good mix of CG and live action, but even then, it's probably look fake.

Yeah I said the same thing in another thread about flaws in human CGI. Bottom line, I hate CGI all together. Any time they use it it feels like what they used it on doesn't count because they just pressed that magic mouse button and there it was.

*Ecto Jedi* · 03-24-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

The problem with doing "realistic" CGI is that it always will look fake. Humans know from years of experience what other "real" humans look like. Even the slightest flaw is blown up. Watch Spider-man (love the film don't get me wrong). You can tell when it's really Toby or a stunt actor and when it's CG. The reason the humans in TMNT look cartoony is because they were supposed to. It takes you out of the real world and into the world as it relates to the characters. if the human characters had been photo realistic, I'm not sure how I'd like TMNT. Maybe a good mix of CG and live action, but even then, it's probably look fake.

You make a strong case. The Turtles in TMNT looked incredibly detailed because they were part of a larger, animated world. CGI turtles would look out of place in a live-action film.

*Raven* · 03-24-2007, 11:36 PM

I'm very glad that we were able to get a director and and team of very talnted people for this movie that understand the turtles and the wonky history they have, not only in story wise but also fan wise.

I havent seen a lot of movies hit both age groups so well, cheers to Kevin and his team!

blueoakleyz · 03-24-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

You make a strong case. The Turtles in TMNT looked incredibly detailed because they were part of a larger, animated world. CGI turtles would look out of places in a live-action film.

well of course!

live action TURTLES in a live-action film.. I don't think anyone would suggest CGI turtles in a liveaction film after seeing such a good job in TMNT1

*iris* · 03-24-2007, 11:38 PM

Thanks for the post, Time Mistress.

YES we are SO totally lucky!

(And yeah I can tell when it's not Toby, and that would suck if I weren't such a Sam Raimi fangirl-- Spiderman needs more fake blood!.)

Fledermaus · 03-24-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoakleyz

Yeah I said the same thing in another thread about flaws in human CGI. Bottom line, I hate CGI all together. Any time they use it it feels like what they used it on doesn't count because they just pressed that magic mouse button and there it was.

That is one of the most ignorant, STUPID comments I've ever heard about CG animation. I'm taking a course right now in Maya 8. Just try and do it yourself, bud. There are no magic buttons to press to make characters or a story come to life. Please stop being so -- geeze.... Fill in the blank.

And for the last time, GET OUT. As I said earlier, this is a thread for people who are celebrating the movie! You have your thread, now go crawl into it and die!!!!

03-24-2007, 10:52 PM	#26
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	OLD TOON ELITISTS!!! Both of you....ok...I did too. Tokka/Rahzar Bebop/Rocksteady thing that is... I mean come on, wouldn't it be cool to hear movie Shredder scream: "Bebop, Rocksteady! DESTROY THEM!!!" __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656 Last edited by Jester; 03-24-2007 at 11:05 PM.

03-24-2007, 11:29 PM	#34
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	The problem with doing "realistic" CGI is that it always will look fake. Humans know from years of experience what other "real" humans look like. Even the slightest flaw is blown up. Watch Spider-man (love the film don't get me wrong). You can tell when it's really Toby or a stunt actor and when it's CG. The reason the humans in TMNT look cartoony is because they were supposed to. It takes you out of the real world and into the world as it relates to the characters. if the human characters had been photo realistic, I'm not sure how I'd like TMNT. Maybe a good mix of CG and live action, but even then, it's probably look fake. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-24-2007, 11:36 PM	#37
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	I'm very glad that we were able to get a director and and team of very talnted people for this movie that understand the turtles and the wonky history they have, not only in story wise but also fan wise. I havent seen a lot of movies hit both age groups so well, cheers to Kevin and his team! __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

03-24-2007, 11:38 PM	#39
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	Thanks for the post, Time Mistress. YES we are SO totally lucky! (And yeah I can tell when it's not Toby, and that would suck if I weren't such a Sam Raimi fangirl-- Spiderman needs more fake blood!.) __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ]