06-04-2014, 11:40 AM | #101 | |
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It's totally fair to speculate, or to have your own predictions/hopes or ideas of how it'll play out. And to be fair, there is some aspect of "evidence" to this, even if it's unproven in this case specifically - people can analyze trends, make comparisons, get in-depth with box office statistics, etc. There's already evidence that August releases perform at a much lower level than June/July movies, so there is some evidence that suggests how high this movie can potentially reach - even though there could always be some surprises. I've got my own predictions, but I'm not trying to say I'll be right, necessarily. I just think that folks getting too "fanboyish" or arrogant about their personal hopes/predictions and trying to pass them off as a fact or a foregone conclusion tends to make things get more heated and hostile than they should. None of us know how this is going to pan out for sure, so let's just keep things in perspective.
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06-04-2014, 01:47 PM | #102 | |
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10 thing i hatd about you and after up until Broke back, thing is actors have to find their niche Even great actors weren't always "great"
yes but he wasn't always considered great, he found his niche, same with Ben he was considered a bad actor early in his career. plenty of other actors a well
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06-04-2014, 01:53 PM | #103 | |
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The only reason I responded is because someone was spouting off that it was just 'blind hate'. And I was setting the record straight that for a lot of folks, it wasn't just 'blind hate from the very start of production'. If you look looooong ago in my posts, you'll see that when I first heard about the film, I was actually excited for it! Because I like a lot of Michael Bay productions (The Island, Bad Boys 1 & 2, The Rock). And I actually loved the director's Darkness Falls and Battle: Los Angeles movies. So, those who said 'well, you hated it from the beginning' don't know what they are talking about. It's right here on the forums...waaaay back, mind you. But it's still on here. Now, if the teasers had done their job and were great...if the marketing did its' job and said 'yep, it's a must see'...if the designs were actually Cool to me in order to go 'Now that is Awesome'...if the casting actually had made me excited instead of dread (and yes samxsteal, I've seen Fichtner in many films and I never cared for him in any of them. Still don't like the guy)...if the makers just 'spoon-fed me' as some people would say it, and just tell us 'hey, the Turtles ARE the stars of the movie. Don't worry'....then I'd give it a chance. I've seen enough Red Flags to build a bridge. And I'm sorry, but there is no reason for me to give this a chance. 'then why are you on here?' Because certain people tell me not to, and I'm incredibly stubborn and incredibly opinionated. Pretty much it. |
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06-04-2014, 03:38 PM | #104 | |
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... I just realised that Volt was referring to Shredder being Ch'rell... for some reason I thought he was talking about the ethnicity of his robot suit. DERP.
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For the sake of comparing apples with apples and oranges with oranges, I look at it this way: 1. Liebesman has directed 5 features besides Turtles, only one of which I've watched. Of that one, I didn't enjoy it. The remainder of his films, I have zero interest in. 2. Applebaum, Nemec and Daugherty haven't written anything that I've enjoyed. 3. Of the 24 films that Bay has produced (which are currently out), I've watched 9. Of those, I've enjoyed 2. 4. Of the 9 other producers and executive producers associated with this project, the only production work in their catalogue (specifically, Denis L Stewart) which I've enjoyed that isn't also on Bay's production list is Friday the 13th: A New Beginning and The Mask. Now I'm not saying that the powers that be should've come to my house and asked my opinion/approval on every person they decided to attach to this project. I'm just saying that there's a precedent for me not really being into the most of the movies that any of these people are attached to, and once again, were it not a Turtles film, I wouldn't be giving the film a second thought.
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06-04-2014, 04:42 PM | #105 | |
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It surprises me that Liebesman was given such a loved property to be responsible for with such a limited background and success, I would like to know what it is he did to get the job. As for Michael Bay, I may have liked some of his films for their action back in the day (Armageddon, The Rock etc.), but over time, as I've grown up, I've become more aware of my issues regarding his method to tell a story, or lack thereof. When Transformers came along, it had a lot of hype around it and initially did very well due to reigniting interest for a loved property, the buzz was highly positive, but I can't see the same love for TMNT, despite also being a loved childhood property. The execution for this project has not been as well handled in my opinion, but the name of the property should be enough to generate enough money to cover the budget at the box office. |
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06-04-2014, 05:11 PM | #106 | |
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As far as how he got the job, he's in the Platinum Dunes wheelhouse. They threw it to whoever would take it. |
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06-04-2014, 05:45 PM | #107 | ||
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And I'll be as overly confident as I so do please bud And im not being "rude" I just used his own word. But I understand that you guys all stick together like a junior high school click.. I wont be "rude" to Trick anymore ok? I apologize. I guess I'm the only one being rude around here for no reason Your right.. it's ALL speculation.. that is why I can't wait for August to come and watch the TMNT kick some ass and succeed again despite these cynical pessimistic folks that routed for it's failure. I'm tired of it. It's going to taste sooo good Last edited by Puddinpop; 06-04-2014 at 05:54 PM. |
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Anyways.. Two girls on Facebook are now claiming that they just saw a new TV spot with Donny and Mikey charging Shredder. A thirty second TV spot on Nickelodeon
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.....holy **** I guess his blades are retractable
They've gotta stop with the Mikey joke though.. Please Last edited by Puddinpop; 06-05-2014 at 04:19 AM. |
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...so Mecha-Shredder it is. I want to see if someone can actually count all the blades. Like a jelly bean contest!
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Man, Shredder looks so goofy. I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Bay has Shredder wear a 8-inch codpiece to make him even more stupid-looking.
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06-04-2014, 07:34 PM | #115 |
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Swiss Army Shredder.
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06-04-2014, 07:56 PM | #116 |
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I don't see a top knot on his head. Ill bet he is close to how he looks in the TMNT history book. Shredder looks menacing
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06-04-2014, 08:02 PM | #117 |
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Geez, I get that he's called the Shredder, but that's one too many blades.
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06-04-2014, 08:04 PM | #119 |
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Tons of people will go for nostalgia alone. If this is a success, it sure didn't come from the marketing department.
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06-04-2014, 09:08 PM | #120 | |
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It's really just not true. He was nominated for awards well before Brokeback. There's a difference between not exclusively being in Oscar bait when you're young and having no discernible acting skills other than pouting, sticking your chest out, and fainting. So the shot of Shredder's blades coming out and maybe a half second more of Michelangelo and Donatello and the rest is old footage? |
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