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Old 06-27-2022, 07:19 PM   #1261
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Kinda convenient that the brilliant idea that Seth Rogen has always had for a TMNT movie aligns perfectly with what Nickleodeon has been pushing to be TMNT's main theme for the last few years.

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Maybe the hook will be there is some kind of mutagen outbreak and the Turtles get their wish and all become human, go to school, etc. But bad guys get mutated and they realize that being mutant Turtles was their "true selves," so they voluntarily re-mutate and save the day.
I wish this didn't sound so plausible.
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Old 06-27-2022, 07:51 PM   #1262
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They just wanna write about "weirdo teenagers trying to fit in" and the rest of it is way, way in the background, an afterthought at best.
Which, to be fair, isn't that far off from what the 2012 cartoon was, what with it's attempts to make the Turtles act a bit too juvenile and making the main two human characters teenagers as well.

If I had to guess why they like to do this, I imagine these are the reasons:
  1. Justifying the "teenage" in the title with a coming of age story is harder than just making them a bunch of awkward kids.
  2. Hollywood likes it's formulas and since it works for Spider-Man and bunch of other movies, why the hell not?
  3. Reading comics is somehow considered hard by some people (which... ugh... why?) and so they just default to making something up themselves.

Obviously it shouldn't be that difficult to just adapt some comic book story for a movie, Hollywood just doesn't care. Producers want to play it safe and directors hate constraints to the point where simply using the bare bones of an existing story offends them.
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Old 06-27-2022, 08:14 PM   #1263
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Kinda convenient that the brilliant idea that Seth Rogen has always had for a TMNT movie aligns perfectly with what Nickleodeon has been pushing to be TMNT's main theme for the last few years.



I wish this didn't sound so plausible.
I can just imagine the trailers already.

"The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles must face a terrifying new threat... high school!" Wacky montages ensues. Mikey doing slapstick stuff and clowning around, Donatello leading some kind of science club or something awful like that.
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Old 06-27-2022, 08:16 PM   #1264
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I can just imagine the trailers already.

"The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles must face a terrifying new threat... high school!" Wacky montages ensues. Mikey doing slapstick stuff and clowning around, Donatello leading some kind of science club or something awful like that.
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Old 06-28-2022, 05:17 AM   #1265
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I just can't get over Don wearing glasses. That kills it alone for me.
The turtles designs are just plain goofy. Donnie with glasses, Leo with braces, the turtles are all way too scrawny. A lot of the people in charge of TMNT for the past too decade are way too obsessed with making them like real teenagers when they ARENT. The turtles were raised differently and have always acted more like adults because of their upbringing under a sensei

But yes, if i see Donnie with glasses “cause hes a nerd” one more time im gonna lose it.
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Old 06-28-2022, 12:25 PM   #1266
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I think TMNT has always had "coming of age" elements, like learning to live apart from your father, managing emotion, or just getting into trouble.

It's just that when I hear them talk about "focusing on the teenage element" of the characters, it makes it sound like they want to get away from the other elements.
I mean, even Rogen has clarified that he doesn't want to drop the "Mutant Ninja Turtle" aspect. Rather, that he just wants to use the "teenage" bit as the jumping on point. But I guess I find that hard to believe.

I actually hesitate to expect any elements focusing on ninja or their history in Japan. More importantly, I'm not expecting those bits to have any teeth, even if they do appear.
And that's really my main concern, as it typically is - that this is going to be primarily aimed at kids. When the creators say they are going to treat these characters as true teenagers, what I am actually hearing is that they are going to treat them as tweens, in a movie made for tweens. I'd love to be wrong.

I mean, it's not like Seth Rogen doesn't have the pedigree tell a story with realistic teens, or to tell a comic-accurate story. The ingredients are actually there.
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Old 06-30-2022, 08:24 AM   #1267
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I can just imagine the trailers already.

"The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles must face a terrifying new threat... high school!" Wacky montages ensues. Mikey doing slapstick stuff and clowning around, Donatello leading some kind of science club or something awful like that.
maybe, just maybe, you have outgrown the brand?
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:36 PM   #1268
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TMNT should not be just for 5-10 year olds. It wasn't created for them, even though that's who latched onto it the hardest.

BUT, since it IS just for 5-10 year olds now and forever thanks to Nickelodeon, then yeah, I for sure have outgrown the brand. It's a shame, it had so much potential that was never fully explored, and now it never will be. Too bad.
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:56 PM   #1269
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maybe, just maybe, you have outgrown the brand?
In the history of this brand, there has only recently been this push for surface-level awkward teenager TMNT by higher-ups, at least since 2016 with OotS. Fans haven't "outgrown" the characters, the characters are being infantilized. The fact that they're continuing on this trajectory despite it flopping every time they've tried it compared to their pre-2016 efforts is puzzling.

Could the reaction to this one sentence from Seth Rogen be considered a little cynical? Maybe, but you can forgive the skepticism given Viacom TMNT's recent history.
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:21 PM   #1270
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maybe, just maybe, you have outgrown the brand?
TMNT as a "brand" is something I've never had any interest in. So I'd have had to have been on board with it to begin with for me to be able to outgrow it. I'm the guy 50 meters away from it pointing at it and laughing, shaking my head.
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:23 PM   #1271
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TMNT as a "brand" is something I've never had any interest in. So I'd have had to have been on board with it to begin with for me to be able to outgrow it. I'm the guy 50 meters away from it pointing at it and laughing, shaking my head.
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:45 PM   #1272
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TMNT should not be just for 5-10 year olds. It wasn't created for them, even though that's who latched onto it the hardest.

BUT, since it IS just for 5-10 year olds now and forever thanks to Nickelodeon, then yeah, I for sure have outgrown the brand. It's a shame, it had so much potential that was never fully explored, and now it never will be. Too bad.
The first movie did a pretty good job at fulfilling some of that potential, imo.
I'm super grateful we have that film, and if we never get another great tmnt movie, I have to shrug my shoulders, because most properties don't get a movie adaption that great, and I still enjoy it to this day. It's not perfect, but very few adaptions are.
Good lord, please bless us with the "Director's Cut" someday, because if it takes away all the goofy music and adds a little "teeth" to the action, I'm about ready to call it 99% perfect.

But that's just the movies. There are plenty of great TMNT comics (and plenty of stinkers, sure). I'd mention City at War as a highlight, because it really does fulfill the potential of the "brand' to me. It asks all the right questions of the characters and feels like a great ending in many ways.
I guess my point is that I don't view the franchise in that tragic of a light, but I do agree that it's being mismanaged and there is massive unfulfilled potential.

Viacom/Nickelodeon should the hint eventually, but probably won't. Their abominations are failing and they are at least allowing good, actually successful products to be made in the more niche markets. Not holding my breath, but it'd be nice.
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Old 07-05-2022, 11:14 PM   #1273
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Hey all. reposting the concept art since the link to the "close up" one is not working anymore.

http://i.imgur.com/JETVkZe.jpg
They look kinda cute, I wish they would make them more cuter and more beefier. They look so scrawny. You think trained ninjas would have more muscle tone then that. Other than the criticism, I think it looks like a children's book with its bright scrawny animals.

Do you think they read the technodrome forums? Hopefully they do better on the design.
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Old 07-08-2022, 06:55 PM   #1274
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Oh gosh, I can already hear the “ You wouldn’t hit a guy with glasses” joke from Donnie while fighting.

Will they have a villain in this at all? Or…
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:04 PM   #1275
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Will they have a villain in this at all? Or…
The evil science teacher, Mr. Stockman.

(I better not be right. lol Goodness knows I'd go and jinx it.)
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:34 PM   #1276
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The evil science teacher, Mr. Stockman.

(I better not be right. lol Goodness knows I'd go and jinx it.)
Have the Shredder be the Principal XD
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Old 07-11-2022, 02:08 PM   #1277
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The evil science teacher, Mr. Stockman.

(I better not be right. lol Goodness knows I'd go and jinx it.)
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Old 07-21-2022, 08:34 PM   #1278
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So like Saved by the Bell , TMNT style

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Old 07-22-2022, 09:54 PM   #1279
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Have the Shredder be the Principal XD
And instead of the blades, he fights the turtles with a wooden paddle.
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