TMNT Urban Legends conclusion vs the "unofficial" 24/25 issues by Andrew et al?

jignat · 03-12-2021, 09:03 PM

Hi everyone,

Sorry if this was explained earlier.
I just noticed that IDW published a continuation of the TMNT Vol. 3 image series last year and the second trade is coming out in May.

I had some questions

NO SPOILERS please

1) Is the Urban Legends last 3 issues basically a cut and paste of those unofficial issues in terms of story or is it a wholly new take?
I never read the unofficial 24/25 , but from what I gather Gary and Frank gave their notes to other folks to interpret them since there were legal barriers put in place by Viacom.

2) If it is new, in your opinions, is it about the same , better, or worse than the unofficial 24/25?

3) How is the color in the UL issues/trade?

Thanks.

*frank_one* · 03-12-2021, 09:26 PM

I usually tend to prioritize the original look of a work, but I must admit the coloring in the new IDW Urban Legends release is very good and makes a lot of pages more clear. Is it better than the original version? Not necessarely, it depends on how much fond of the original look you are. I will probably go with this new version whenever I decide to read the series for the first time.

*CyberCubed* · 03-12-2021, 10:50 PM

The storyline of the official conclusion is completely different than Andrew's. They go in different directions entirely. It's also well worth it.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-13-2021, 07:46 AM

All I will say was that it was very gratifying to work with Gary Carlson on the last 3 issues at IDW that became the new and official conclusion. He didn't have to include me by any means, but he did.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-13-2021, 07:47 AM

I think I prefer the Modeen conclusion. Glad we have both options though!

~~mrmaczaps~~ · 03-13-2021, 09:46 AM

I wish IDW had done the final 3 issues in black and white so they would fit in better for folks who have the Image run as I think Turtles is far more enjoyable that way. Plus I hate the color coding.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-13-2021, 10:51 AM

In a way it helps it flow from Vol. 2 better. Which was in color.

*frank_one* · 03-13-2021, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

I wish IDW had done the final 3 issues in black and white so they would fit in better for folks who have the Image run as I think Turtles is far more enjoyable that way. Plus I hate the color coding.

True, considering a lot of people were only interested in those final issues.

*neatoman* · 03-13-2021, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

All I will say was that it was very gratifying to work with Gary Carlson on the last 3 issues at IDW that became the new and official conclusion. He didn't have to include me by any means, but he did.

I didn't realise you had input, seems like you were credited with "Special thanks" for "Inspiration and advice". What kind of advice did you give?

~~mrmaczaps~~ · 03-13-2021, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank_one

True, considering a lot of people were only interested in those final issues.

I mean, I bought the entire series and enjoyed rereading it all in color, but I would have paid for an extra copy of the final issues in black & white variants.

Andrew, yeah vol 2 was in color but it was done by Mirage and it looks better than the IDW color classics reprint material.

*frank_one* · 03-13-2021, 03:33 PM

Didn't IDW redo the coloring of Volume 2 for their reprint? The original colors of Volume 2 were weird, especially after the first issue.
One question: Does the new ending for Volume 3 try to connect to Volume 4?

*CyberCubed* · 03-13-2021, 04:44 PM

Knowing how much IDW reprints stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if they do a black and white collected run of Image sometime down the line.

~~mrmaczaps~~ · 03-14-2021, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank_one

Didn't IDW redo the coloring of Volume 2 for their reprint? The original colors of Volume 2 were weird, especially after the first issue.
One question: Does the new ending for Volume 3 try to connect to Volume 4?

Not directly, no. Vol 3 sort of ties up most open threads & readjusts a couple things but doesn't really go against anything specified in volume 4.

03-12-2021, 09:03 PM	#1
jignat Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 137	TMNT Urban Legends conclusion vs the "unofficial" 24/25 issues by Andrew et al? Hi everyone, Sorry if this was explained earlier. I just noticed that IDW published a continuation of the TMNT Vol. 3 image series last year and the second trade is coming out in May. I had some questions NO SPOILERS please 1) Is the Urban Legends last 3 issues basically a cut and paste of those unofficial issues in terms of story or is it a wholly new take? I never read the unofficial 24/25 , but from what I gather Gary and Frank gave their notes to other folks to interpret them since there were legal barriers put in place by Viacom. 2) If it is new, in your opinions, is it about the same , better, or worse than the unofficial 24/25? 3) How is the color in the UL issues/trade? Thanks.

03-13-2021, 07:46 AM	#4
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,279	All I will say was that it was very gratifying to work with Gary Carlson on the last 3 issues at IDW that became the new and official conclusion. He didn't have to include me by any means, but he did. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

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oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 14,939	I think I prefer the Modeen conclusion. Glad we have both options though! __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

03-13-2021, 10:51 AM	#7
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,279	In a way it helps it flow from Vol. 2 better. Which was in color. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-13-2021, 03:33 PM	#11
frank_one Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 1,984	Didn't IDW redo the coloring of Volume 2 for their reprint? The original colors of Volume 2 were weird, especially after the first issue. One question: Does the new ending for Volume 3 try to connect to Volume 4? Last edited by frank_one; 03-13-2021 at 03:46 PM.

03-12-2021, 09:26 PM	#2
frank_one Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 1,984	I usually tend to prioritize the original look of a work, but I must admit the coloring in the new IDW Urban Legends release is very good and makes a lot of pages more clear. Is it better than the original version? Not necessarely, it depends on how much fond of the original look you are. I will probably go with this new version whenever I decide to read the series for the first time.

03-12-2021, 10:50 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	The storyline of the official conclusion is completely different than Andrew's. They go in different directions entirely. It's also well worth it.

03-13-2021, 09:46 AM	#6
~~mrmaczaps~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 2,619	I wish IDW had done the final 3 issues in black and white so they would fit in better for folks who have the Image run as I think Turtles is far more enjoyable that way. Plus I hate the color coding.

03-13-2021, 04:44 PM	#12
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	Knowing how much IDW reprints stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if they do a black and white collected run of Image sometime down the line.