05-18-2022, 03:20 AM | #1 |
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Modern interpretation of Fred Wolf Turtles
Just to vent (a little)…2 things that annoy me with the modern interpretation of the FW Turtles.
1. The art. For some reason whoever is in charge of doing new art for packaging (i.e. NECA packaging or TMNT official social media posts) it’s just not right. The art looks like some sort of weird clip art. Just annoying to look at! The pinnacle of FW art is in the season 1-2 intro and the first 3 episodes. For me at least, that's how I picture them in my mind. The new stuff hurts my eyes. 2. The way the now traditional Turtle character traits get thrown into the FW Turtles – example FW Raph now always looks angry and is the “hot head” one. But in FW he was nothing like that. He was the sarcastic joker. It’s like taking the 2012 Turtles and throwing the FW characteristics at them for future marketing material – it just doesn’t fit. That’s it. It’s petty, but that’s it. Good day to you sir.
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If you want an explanation for these two factors:
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05-18-2022, 05:52 AM | #3 |
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Isn't that the same thing I was trying to convey?
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05-18-2022, 07:13 AM | #4 |
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To be fair, out of the 4 of them, 80's Raph was the closest you could consider a hothead. He just wasn't perma-angry like other versions.
I mean most of his wisecracks were 'mean' and whatnot and he was always picking on Michealangelo. It's as close as the old cartoon could get to 'being angry'. If anything my biggest complaint is modern versions making it look like all 4 of them were laughing idiots when at the very least Leo and Don were the serious ones.
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In fact we know there are at least 2 art styles from the 80's for the FW Turtles. The Turtles we saw in the actual cartoon (of which I’ll admit there are even variations of this variation!) and also the more thicker chunky Turtles we saw on the marketing goods. The modern day take on the FW Turtles doesn't really match with either of those. RE the character traits. I'm not saying that FW is the yardstick. What I'm saying is what if you flip reversed it and made 2012 Raph a sarcastic joker? Each series has their own take, why mix it up?
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05-18-2022, 08:32 AM | #6 |
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Since I haven't kept up with the property in nearly a decade by now, I wasn't aware of how they were being portrayed.
I just remember that the FW Turtles acted a little too Goofy in Turtles Forever. I believe even 2k3 Raphael said "All these Turtles act like Michelangelo!". A but if an exaggeration imo. Plus, FW Mike was nowhere near as annoying as 2k3 Mike. |
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2K3 Mikey and 2012Mikey had times where they were purposely annoying and teasing their brothers and just being an overall asshole.
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The weird Viacom corporate FW Turtles have always bothered me. Especially since they cropped up on the heels of Turtles Forever, which visually nailed the look of the original show. It especially bothers me because it isn't even consistent -- based on the image, the Turtles' heads will be wide and round, excessively skinny, or angular(???). The FW show wasn't always consistent about this either, but if there was variation it was usually kept the same throughout an entire episode.
I'm not sure what it is about extremely saturated greens and yellows, deep green shells, and black/yellow belt buckles that marketing seems to think people want over a show-accurate interpretation.
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Yes at least 87 Mike has a lot of charm and charisma. Hell, I learned the word "dude" from him! Whenever I use it in English I feel like that's due to me growing up with the FW series.
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Mike in FW was very much a fun dude, not a an annoying fool like in 2k3 or just plain retarded like 2k12.
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I remember back then Mike was already generally considered the dumbest of the Turtles, even by his brothers. In the Donatello Duplicate episode, Don's evil duplicate even says so that Raphael is a rocket scientist compared to Michelangelo
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I think the only time he messed up was when they were using a remote controlled squid to punish the bad guys and when Mikey got a turn, it actually let them get away.
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Your example of the 2012 Raph changing is very unlikely to happen because the 2012 Raph aligns better with the general idea of what the character is. If it were to happen though, it would actually be weirder precisely because the FW version of Raph is the exception rather than the norm. |
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Made Mikey look very immature and irresponsible. |
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05-18-2022, 07:07 PM | #16 |
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The modern licensing art appears to be based off of Steve Lavigne's art style, which has been used since the late 80s. In some artwork, the poses are based on the 2003 licensing art. The color scheme has been used since at least around the time of the 25th anniversary. There was a picture of two of the Turtles in that licensing art style hanging on an orange Nickelodeon blimp when the sale to Viacom was announced in 2009, but I can't find it right now.
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1)How about how all four of them are party dudes and they all say Cowabunga?
2)And the Turtle Van being exclusively called by its toy name: The Party Wagon. Well to be fair, even in the Archie comics, which were based on the FW TMNT cartoon, Raph was portrayed as the angry hotheaded loner rather than the sarcastic joker
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