02-16-2022, 04:21 PM | #1121 | |
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But... That previous one did still look a lot like this, so I'm still having a bad taste in my mouth and this is still too similar to ease my worries. I'm still feeling the Technodrome and that whale are going to be in this and I don't like that idea. |
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02-16-2022, 04:27 PM | #1122 |
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The whale reminds me of that fake art (or maybe it was a discarded early design) of the Cloverfield monster:
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02-16-2022, 04:39 PM | #1123 | |
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Speaking of, is it just me or did they start removing that image and taking it down from social media? Maybe they weren't intending to share that and the designs aren't finalized? |
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02-16-2022, 04:55 PM | #1124 |
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Yeah, It was being taken down all over twitter, The Old Turtle Den had a video about it that was also taken down.
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02-16-2022, 05:19 PM | #1125 |
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I dont like how they looks so scrawny, but other then that I am ok with the designs. I understand how small changes (like glasses) are made to differentiate the different 'generations' of the show. If they make it too big a deal it would get annoying, like if they have Donnie perform a Velma.
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02-16-2022, 05:32 PM | #1126 | ||
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The turtles are supposed to have some muscle. Bay went completely over the top with it but the answer shouldn't be go in the complete opposite direction and make them ultra skinny. It's like the people in charge of the franchise seem to lurch from one extreme to other. |
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02-16-2022, 06:03 PM | #1127 |
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To my eyes, it looks like skinny, stoner versions of the Fred Wolf Turtles with grafted-on Bay stuff (glasses, lots of wraps) and a few cues from the 2012 cartoon (gap tooth Don), in basically a 2012 world with 2012-style mutants and design and such.
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02-16-2022, 07:27 PM | #1128 |
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Lose the glasses and bucktooth and braces and they look fine. Let's just hope they're not mutated from humans.
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02-16-2022, 09:38 PM | #1129 |
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Another piece of art
...if this piece is any indicator, they seem to be going the baby turtle route.
Original article: https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/...tmnt-villains/
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02-16-2022, 10:23 PM | #1130 | |
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02-16-2022, 11:49 PM | #1131 |
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I mean, sure. Way better design than the Bay Turtles (though them coming back to the table with a new Bay Turtles-like design was never going to happen when those movies failed). But do we have to have such a battered wife syndrome that we are expected to go, "Well, at least they're better than the Bay Turtles! Awesome! What a win!"? Because that's dumb.
In all seriousness, it's fine. When I read Rogen was attached I was immediately defending the movie here. Rogen of years back is hysterical in his movies, in front of the camera and writing wise. And smart. Clever. And again, look at stuff like Preacher and The Boys, TV shows with his fingerprints all over... great stuff. So there was the kernel of hope that maybe he was secretly a TMNT fan, maybe even a fan of the Mirage flavored Turtles. I didn't know. Nobody knew. Anyway, now we know. He isn't. He is into the tons of mutants, wackiness and pizza type TMNT fluff. Which again, is fine. It just means it isn't for me, and I'm sure I won't be missed. So the designs we're seeing... why not? It's all fine for what they're going for.
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02-17-2022, 03:01 AM | #1133 | |
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Personally I'm simply annoyed that we never got a proper adaption of Mirage TMNT. Yes, the 1990 movie and early seasons of 2K3 came close - but even those tried to please fans of the Fred Wolf cartoon and/or younger audiences in certain ways. It would be so nice to have an adult-oriented and well written "Return to New York" or "City at War" movie incl. 4 turtles wearing red bandanas in simple designs. We never got that to this very day while "lighthearted" adaptions are stacking up - so it's no wonder that once more at least "my corner of the fanbase" isn't pleased.
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02-17-2022, 05:50 AM | #1134 | |
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About individuality I would argue that the Fred Wolf variants, it was probably a budget/time issue to have them look all the same then just add different colours. Mirage...well that is where they started and the designs grew as the issues went on. Without wanting to sound hypocritical the best attempts at individuality were the 1990 Turts and also I love what Santoluoco (sp?) did with his IDW designs. Subtle differences but in a group shot obvious. On the individuality spectrum these are probably a 4 out of 10 if we say Bay and Rise are hitting the 9 and 10 marks! I would still argue if you cut off the 2012 arms and legs at the elbows and knees you're looking at something pretty gangly. I always thought that 2007 were less beefcake than the FW and 2K3 versions as well. All I'm saying is for me these new designs have been pulled back towards 2007 style and away from Bay/Rise accessorised Turtles. But it seems that is off the mark too. So aside from cut and paste of 1990 or 2K3 where do the TMNT go from here? (been discussed many times before on this board but there is a gaping hole in the franchise for a Netflix live action "dark & gritty" series - but will never happen unfortunately...)
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I am not against small differences, like different bandanas or belts (like in Playmates toys from the 80s) or skin colors, but not excessive stuff like stupid goggles or braces or random articles of clothing.
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02-17-2022, 07:40 AM | #1136 | |
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02-17-2022, 08:58 AM | #1137 |
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I don't mind the clothing. I especially liked the designs for the Steve Baron sequel that never happened. It humanizes them.
I just don't like some of the particular differences that Viacom seems to intent on stamping the turtles with - Raph has a cracked/spiked shell, Don has distinct teeth and goggles, etc. I mean, they aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things, it's just not my preference. I can understand the inclination to give them distinct looks, which is why I guess I prefer they go with the clothing route, over them essentially deforming the turtles. |
02-17-2022, 09:41 AM | #1138 |
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the designs have grown on me. they look like teenagers, as they should.
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02-17-2022, 09:42 AM | #1139 | |
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02-17-2022, 09:51 AM | #1140 |
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You hope it's legit without even having seen it? Sounds leafy to me!
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