Joker 2

[AquaParade]

I'm still very curious about the musical aspect. I think it could be something special, but if it robs the movie of tension in the plot or the occasional frightening scene, than I'll probably be disappointed.

But hey, I'm glad they are going big, if that's where their imagination is taking them.

[ChosenOne]

Well, Joker's best moment in Arkham Knight is a musical act, so...

[Cowabung-Gal]

[Andrew NDB]

It wrapped.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/joker-s...th-new-photos/

[Autbot_Benz]

[IMJ]

On one hand this is brilliant. On the other hand we get this nonsense but we can't get a solid Affleck Batman movie.

[Andrew NDB]

For a moment in time it sounded like we were in a good place. While Matt Reeves would still make his nonsense Batman movies, we were going to get Affleck's Batman on HBO Max. The "optimistic" Cavill Superman movie. A WW3 that hopefully would have learned from 1984's failings.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

For a moment in time it sounded like we were in a good place. While Matt Reeves would still make his nonsense Batman movies, we were going to get Affleck's Batman on HBO Max. The "optimistic" Cavill Superman movie. A WW3 that hopefully would have learned from 1984's failings.

Stephen Amell's rant about liking actual "content" more than "announcements" in regards to James Gunn was hysterical...

If that other guy wasn't a psychopath he would still be posting here somehow going on about James Gunn's film slate announced 2-years ago now and nothing accomplished.

[tmntpower1988]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Stephen Amell's rant about liking actual "content" more than "announcements" in regards to James Gunn was hysterical...

If that other guy wasn't a psychopath he would still be posting here somehow going on about James Gunn's film slate announced 2-years ago now and nothing accomplished.

"The slate! The slate! The slate!"

[BornAgain]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

"The slate! The slate! The slate!"

Was that the slate where you said it was made up of “D-listers”, even though it’s Superman, Batman & Robin, Supergirl, andSwamp Thing?

Not a bad read….

https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sh...ad.php?t=65733

The thread shows you and IMJ vehemently refusing that the slate includes Batman and Robin, even though it was explicitly stated in the announcement. Lots of other crazy arguments in there as well.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh god, not this again.

No, Swamp Thing is definitely not A or B list. Or the Creature Commandos. Or Booster Gold, even though I like him. And just because Batman is featured prominently in Brave & The Bold does not make it a new Batman movie, proper.

[BornAgain]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Swamp Thing is definitely not A or B list. Or the Creature Commandos. Or Booster Gold, even though I like him.

IMO, any slate including Batman and Robin, Superman, and Green Lantern would be hard to describe a slate of “D-listers”. Brave and the Bold is a Batman movie.

The others are debatable. If you don’t read comics then those others are basically unknowns. Some have quite the legacy in the books.

I don’t see the argument for this being a D-list state though. It has Batman, Superman, Robin, and GL.

There are definitely some lesser-known characters on there, I’ll give you that. Booster Gold is pretty obscure and even I don’t know Creature Commandos. Whether that’s a good or bad thing becomes a different discussion.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by BornAgain

Was that the slate where you said it was made up of “D-listers”, even though it’s Superman, Batman & Robin, Supergirl, andSwamp Thing?

Not a bad read….

https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sh...ad.php?t=65733

The thread shows you and IMJ vehemently refusing that the slate includes Batman and Robin, even though it was explicitly stated in the announcement. Lots of other crazy arguments in there as well.

No, no, no you don't get it. There was a lot of gaslighting and word twisting going on there so we ran with it for the most part. Part of that gaslighting was the narrative that I refused that the slate included Batman, which I never did. I just argued that a Brave and the Bold movie, given the rest of the slate, was a Batman vehicle and not a "Batman movie" - could just turn out like Batman appearing in Suicide Squad, albeit a bit more than a cameo.

Basically once the discussion lost all nuance because of another clown user, we let it implode well beyond what the initial points really were. Not that I expected the sociopath we were discussing it with to see that - he just kept gong off the rails until he bugged up so badly that he needed vengeance by trying to weaponize my picture - something I'm waiting patiently to bump into you... err him someday over.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh god, not this again.

No, Swamp Thing is definitely not A or B list. Or the Creature Commandos. Or Booster Gold, even though I like him. And just because Batman is featured prominently in Brave & The Bold does not make it a new Batman movie, proper.

Pretty much that, but it wouldn't matter how succinctly we put it, BornAgain... errr.... AquaParade just kept on buggin' up.

JUUuusssttt Kidding, BornAgain. Just kidding. Or am I?

[BornAgain]

Originally Posted by IMJ

No, no, no you don't get it. There was a lot of gaslighting and word twisting going on there so we ran with it for the most part.

Basically once the discussion lost all nuance because of another clown user, we let it implode well beyond what the initial points really were. Not that I expected the sociopath we were discussing it with to see that - he just kept gong off the rails until he bugged up so badly that he needed vengeance by trying to weaponize my picture - something I'm waiting patiently to bump into you... err him someday over.



Pretty much that, but it wouldn't matter how succinctly we put it, BornAgain... errr.... AquaParade just kept on buggin' up.

JUUuusssttt Kidding, BornAgain. Just kidding. Or am I?

That’s a can of worms.

I’m just saying that I disagree with the implication that this is a D-list slate. Superman, Batman, Robin, GL, and a few others hold too much weight for it to be considered that imo.

And to be fair you guys are seen going off in that thread about Batman not being a part of it, which was confirmed information right off the bat. So it’s technically incorrect to argue otherwise.

It seems like part of the “D-list” opinion was driven by the misunderstanding that Batman was not featured in the slate, but I can’t really say. I just think it’s inaccurate to refer to this as a slate of D-listers. Not a strong argument imo, but it’s all subjective I suppose.

[Autbot_Benz]

[ZariusTwo]

Film's ending

Spoiler:

Arthur goes on trial, he admits his wrong-doing and says all he wants is human connection, as long as he has that, he doesn't need to be the Joker any longer, Harvey Dent is the prosecutor, Arthur's followers set off a bomb. Arthur survives and reunites with Harley, but she rejects him as he no longer wants to be the Joker. She was only ever in love with his persona

Back at the asylum, an inmate stabs Arthur and proceeds to give himself a 'glasgow smile', inspired by the man Arthur used to be. It's implied this inmate becomes the Joker we are familiar with

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Film's ending

Spoiler:

Arthur goes on trial, he admits his wrong-doing and says all he wants is human connection, as long as he has that, he doesn't need to be the Joker any longer, Harvey Dent is the prosecutor, Arthur's followers set off a bomb. Arthur survives and reunites with Harley, but she rejects him as he no longer wants to be the Joker. She was only ever in love with his persona

Back at the asylum, an inmate stabs Arthur and proceeds to give himself a 'glasgow smile', inspired by the man Arthur used to be. It's implied this inmate becomes the Joker we are familiar with

Huh. Interesting.

[ZariusTwo]

[sdp]

I watched it. I enjoyed Joker 2. It's better than the average superhero slop, I like how experimental it is. Sadly it doesn't quite reach its potential.
I think they should've leaned more on the musical aspect and the fantasy/reality ambiguity.

Most people didn't understand the movie. They complain about Lady gaga but she's literally meant to be an avatar of the audience.

Spoiler:

wanting Arthur to be Joker and being disappointed when he isn't who she thought he was