Joker 2

[RaphaelinSTL]

Joker: Folie a Deux is baffling, bizarre and I kind of loved it? What a complete troll of a movie and one that is actively trying to get you to hate it and piss you off. I mean this in the best possible way

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

Most people didn't understand the movie. They complain about Lady gaga but she's literally meant to be an avatar of the audience.

Spoiler:

wanting Arthur to be Joker and being disappointed when he isn't who she thought he was

This might be the only astute post I've ever seen you make on the board.

[Coola Yagami]

So... that was a movie... and a fun outing.... and the popcorn was good.

[ZariusTwo]

39% on RT.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/joker_folie_a_deux

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

39% on RT.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/joker_folie_a_deux

I mean, it's to be expected. It kinda undoes everything and goes in the complete opposite direction of where people were expecting this to go.

But in all honestly, the way Fleck was portrayed in the first film, it would have been too high of a leap to see how he went from that to the criminal mastermind we all know. It should have just been left to the imagination.

[RaphaelinSTL]

I was totally reminded of GG Allin's last performance alive

Spoiler:

when the people at the courthouse got a confused Arthur Fleck into their taxi and drove off.

It's been almost a day and I can't stop thinking about it. I'm shocked this got the green light and was released as is at the price tag it's reported as.

What a mean-spirited movie. Complete misery porn in a way that gets you lost in its despair. It's the cinematic equivalent of having a really sad wank and the only thing you have to clean yourself off of is your DC Comics blanket from when you were younger.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I read the plot. Sounds like it sucks and is a big middle finger to everyone who grew to love Arthur in the first film.

Not gonna watch it, and I'll enjoy Joker 2019 as a standalone movie like it was originally intended.

[Andrew NDB]

The best thing they could have done was make The Batman also set in the 80s (why not?) and groom this Joker as the Joker of that universe. Make a sort of "this is the grounded, noir alternate 80s DCEU." Now they're all going to be nothing movies that amount to nothing.

Also, am I to understand the general consensus is... not only does Lady Gaga not really help or elevate anything here, but actively harms it?

[Coola Yagami]

The anti-woke crowd is alleging that the powers at be didn't like the fact that 'the wrong people' loved the first movie and made it a success, so they tore everything from the first movie down in this one, almost as if punish us for sympathizing with Arthur in the first movie.

To be honest I do remember the woke crowd frothing at the mouth back in the day when the Joker was a success. Back then the woke media was almost hoping for an incel shooting or whatever so they could point at the movie to blame it on, and were upset that nothing ever happened. That's ****ing sick, wishing for the sacrifice of innocent lives just to prove a point.

Alternate take is the director purposely self-sabotaging since he was forced to make a sequel he didn't want to do for a movie he clearly intended to be a stand alone film.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Alternate take is the director purposely self-sabotaging since he was forced to make a sequel he didn't want to do for a movie he clearly intended to be a stand alone film.

It might seem that way but there have been several articles/interviews with the director since the first one came out about conversations he'd strike up with Joachim about ideas for a sequel. If I had to guess, the first movie was made for the critics and this one was made for him.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The anti-woke crowd is alleging that the powers at be didn't like the fact that 'the wrong people' loved the first movie and made it a success, so they tore everything from the first movie down in this one, almost as if punish us for sympathizing with Arthur in the first movie.

I wonder if the release of the movie is meant to co-incide with the upcoming election, since the first Joker was a huge hit among anti-woke right wingers and MAGA Nationalists, so this sequel is trying to demoralise them instead.

[Coola Yagami]

It's annoying how everything has to he political to the point where if it's not, it must be for the MAGA crowd.

It reminds me of when the first Godzilla vs Kong movie made money but, you know, it was just a movie without any woke messaging or whatnot, the articles were saying things to the effect that 'movies like these make money because they cater to Trump supporters'.

Like my God. Not every ****ing thing has to be tied to Trump, wether for or against. Geez.

[IMJ]

Ten million amazing things that DC could be doing and instead they are making Joker musicals and Creature Commandos.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I wonder if the release of the movie is meant to co-incide with the upcoming election, since the first Joker was a huge hit among anti-woke right wingers and MAGA Nationalists

Was it, though? The first Joker was all about "eat the rich."

Spoiler:

And so that's what happens? We meet "The Real Joker" at the end? pffft. Stupid! Isn't that exactly what that stupid Gotham show did? "This guy is the Joker! Plot twist, no, he INSPIRES the REAL Joker!"

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Was it, though? The first Joker was all about "eat the rich."

That message reasonates among poor whites who despise the liberal elites.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

That message reasonates among poor whites who despise the liberal elites.

I thought it was 99% poor, miserable lefties who despise millionaires and billionaires?

[Coola Yagami]

So now that the weekend passed, what was the over-under?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Was it, though? The first Joker was all about "eat the rich."

My first impression was that Antifa was the crowd of angry rioting clowns. I mean, is Todd wrong, especially about the “clown” part?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

My first impression was that Antifa was the crowd of angry rioting clowns. I mean, is Todd wrong, especially about the “clown” part?

I mean, yeah, those definitely aren't the "Proud Boys" or the NRA or something.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Glad to see this piece of trash bombing hard.

They insulted the fans and told them they were wrong for loving Arthur. And the fans fought back.