Leo In Yellow/Venus In Pink (Next Mutation)

*Powder* · 10-28-2011, 06:47 PM

In the intro/outro clips of The Next Mutation, there's a group shot shown in which Leonardo is wearing yellow pads and a yellow/green bandana.

What the shell?

I noticed it right from the first episode and was always confused by it. I know that Venus was originally going to be Pink... My theory is that once they switched her over to a pale blue somebody figured "We can't have two blue ones, that will confuse the kids." and thus switched Leo over to the next primary color. Then, somebody else workin' on the show said "C'mon, he's the leader, he's always been blue. You can't just change that!" & they brought her back to pink. Then they said screw it & thus they ended up as we know them all to be.

Does anybody have any details behind this? What would your reaction of been had they kept this change? Do you think Venus would've been better suited in pink? Share all yer thoughts on the matter.

Here you can see Leonardo in Yellow-

& here is where you see Venus in pink. This Playmates promo picture was released prior to the show airing, but I'm assuming after they'd already made the change.

I remember having the Playmates catalog (or whatever it was) that this picture was featured in, and thinking that I much preferred the pink bandana. Now as an adult I understand that they probably switched it because it was too much of a LOOK IT'S A GIRL SEE SHE WEARS PINK vibe going on, plus maybe boys would've been completely turned off by the color... I dunno. Even so, I still kinda like it better but maybe that's only because it's something different from the norm. I love variation.

As for Leo in yellow... I actually always thought it looked really neat, if only for this series. Leo is my favorite turtle, so switching his color for the rest of time wouldn't be cool with me, but if The Next Mutation had been an exception, I wouldn't of minded at all. It's a cool "highlighter" kinda color, and I'm a sucker for neon.

*oldmanwinters* · 10-28-2011, 06:57 PM

Now that's WEIRD!!! My guess is that something when wrong with the coloring effects on that green/blue screen shot. But why not just give Venus a color other than pink or blue, like... maybe yellow?

EDIT: And seeing how this was Saban, Leo totally should have became the White Rang.... er... Turtle!

*Master Splinter* · 10-28-2011, 06:57 PM

I've never noticed that Powder and I didn't know she was originally going to be pink. I think they might have been more successful with her if they did leave her pink. Just asked my wife and she said Pink for sure.

-ms

**Jester** · 10-28-2011, 07:52 PM

Pink's too stereotypically "girl"....

Just kidding, It'd have been better than "lighter shade of blue".

*mysterycolor* · 10-28-2011, 08:18 PM

maybe it is a bit of a stereotype- but i think the picture that shows her wearing pink looks a lot nicer.

*Eiko* · 10-29-2011, 08:04 AM

No idea with Leo in yellow. But i think Venus looks a lot better in pink.

**Jester** · 10-29-2011, 09:26 AM

I think Leo's yellow by accident, Like Adam said, a snaffu with either the lighting or the "chroma key".

*pannoni1* · 10-29-2011, 11:19 AM

To me I associate yellow with April, so not having her in TNM makes some sense with Leo, though it's stranger. Maybe they should have just had red bandanas with different skintones (except for Venus, who could be blue). But given that it was live action and people liked the pink ranger on Power Rangers, I'm sure it could have worked here.

*Powder* · 10-29-2011, 12:18 PM

There's no way that Leo is yellow by mistake, guys.

Protoman · 10-29-2011, 03:41 PM

Really digging that pink Venus figure.

*ToTheNines* · 10-29-2011, 03:45 PM

I remember something about them wanting to have Venus be pink, Leo be yellow, and Don be black but it was decided against at a certain point in pre-production.

*The Fifth Turtle* · 10-29-2011, 04:19 PM

Leo in blue, Venus in pink hands down

*Zachatello00* · 11-01-2011, 05:00 PM

DRAGON SKULL! SO AWESOME!!!!

I also seem to remember hearing somewhere that Venus was originally supposed to be Pink, but I can't for the life of me remember where...

Filespit · 11-01-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Did they actually release these? I've never seen them to be honest.

*Candy Kappa* · 11-01-2011, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filespit

Did they actually release these? I've never seen them to be honest.

yup, although Venus colors was more show accurate

*Powder* · 11-01-2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachatello00

DRAGON SKULL! SO AWESOME!!!!

I also seem to remember hearing somewhere that Venus was originally supposed to be Pink, but I can't for the life of me remember where...

Dragon Skull being what? And you heard that in my first post.

Chaotix12345 · 11-01-2011, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder

Dragon Skull being what?

Judging by the image, that was the prototype name for the Dragon Lord.

*Powder* · 11-01-2011, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaotix12345

Judging by the image, that was the prototype name for the Dragon Lord.

Oh wow, I never even noticed.

Nelson · 11-01-2011, 07:10 PM

They probably used a blue backdrop for that shot (instead of green because of the turtles' skin color) so Leo got a different color for his bandana. Then they didn't correct it to reduce costs (it's a very short shot anyway)

That's the most likely explanation.

*Candy Kappa* · 11-01-2011, 07:26 PM

Venus is still blue in the picture, seems a bit lazy correcting her colors but not on the turtle that is closer in the shot

10-28-2011, 06:47 PM	#1
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,809	Leo In Yellow/Venus In Pink (Next Mutation) In the intro/outro clips of The Next Mutation, there's a group shot shown in which Leonardo is wearing yellow pads and a yellow/green bandana. What the shell? I noticed it right from the first episode and was always confused by it. I know that Venus was originally going to be Pink... My theory is that once they switched her over to a pale blue somebody figured "We can't have two blue ones, that will confuse the kids." and thus switched Leo over to the next primary color. Then, somebody else workin' on the show said "C'mon, he's the leader, he's always been blue. You can't just change that!" & they brought her back to pink. Then they said screw it & thus they ended up as we know them all to be. Does anybody have any details behind this? What would your reaction of been had they kept this change? Do you think Venus would've been better suited in pink? Share all yer thoughts on the matter. Here you can see Leonardo in Yellow- & here is where you see Venus in pink. This Playmates promo picture was released prior to the show airing, but I'm assuming after they'd already made the change. I remember having the Playmates catalog (or whatever it was) that this picture was featured in, and thinking that I much preferred the pink bandana. Now as an adult I understand that they probably switched it because it was too much of a LOOK IT'S A GIRL SEE SHE WEARS PINK vibe going on, plus maybe boys would've been completely turned off by the color... I dunno. Even so, I still kinda like it better but maybe that's only because it's something different from the norm. I love variation. As for Leo in yellow... I actually always thought it looked really neat, if only for this series. Leo is my favorite turtle, so switching his color for the rest of time wouldn't be cool with me, but if The Next Mutation had been an exception, I wouldn't of minded at all. It's a cool "highlighter" kinda color, and I'm a sucker for neon. __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

10-28-2011, 06:57 PM	#2
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 14,936	Now that's WEIRD!!! My guess is that something when wrong with the coloring effects on that green/blue screen shot. But why not just give Venus a color other than pink or blue, like... maybe yellow? EDIT: And seeing how this was Saban, Leo totally should have became the White Rang.... er... Turtle! __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

10-28-2011, 06:57 PM	#3
Master Splinter 幸 - 愛 - 思う Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,824	I've never noticed that Powder and I didn't know she was originally going to be pink. I think they might have been more successful with her if they did leave her pink. Just asked my wife and she said Pink for sure. -ms __________________

10-28-2011, 07:52 PM	#4
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	Pink's too stereotypically "girl".... Just kidding, It'd have been better than "lighter shade of blue". __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-28-2011, 08:18 PM	#5
mysterycolor t-u-r-t-l-e seller!! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,481	maybe it is a bit of a stereotype- but i think the picture that shows her wearing pink looks a lot nicer. __________________ mysterycolor TMNT ebay auctions- http://bit.ly/mysterycolor mysterycolor's basement auctions- bit.ly/mysterybasement

10-29-2011, 08:04 AM	#6
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	No idea with Leo in yellow. But i think Venus looks a lot better in pink. __________________

10-29-2011, 09:26 AM	#7
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,216	I think Leo's yellow by accident, Like Adam said, a snaffu with either the lighting or the "chroma key". __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-29-2011, 11:19 AM	#8
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	To me I associate yellow with April, so not having her in TNM makes some sense with Leo, though it's stranger. Maybe they should have just had red bandanas with different skintones (except for Venus, who could be blue). But given that it was live action and people liked the pink ranger on Power Rangers, I'm sure it could have worked here. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

10-29-2011, 12:18 PM	#9
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,809	There's no way that Leo is yellow by mistake, guys. __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

10-29-2011, 03:41 PM	#10
Protoman Thug Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sewers of Montreal, Canada Posts: 79	Really digging that pink Venus figure. __________________ A new challenger has arrived... TheProtoman.com Protoman on Twitter

10-29-2011, 03:45 PM	#11
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	I remember something about them wanting to have Venus be pink, Leo be yellow, and Don be black but it was decided against at a certain point in pre-production.

10-29-2011, 04:19 PM	#12
The Fifth Turtle Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago sewer Posts: 2,488	Leo in blue, Venus in pink hands down

11-01-2011, 05:00 PM	#13
Zachatello00 Ninja Comedian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Incognito at the Moment Posts: 2,041	DRAGON SKULL! SO AWESOME!!!! I also seem to remember hearing somewhere that Venus was originally supposed to be Pink, but I can't for the life of me remember where... __________________ "It's a Kodak moment!"

11-01-2011, 07:10 PM	#19
Nelson Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 673	They probably used a blue backdrop for that shot (instead of green because of the turtles' skin color) so Leo got a different color for his bandana. Then they didn't correct it to reduce costs (it's a very short shot anyway) That's the most likely explanation.

11-01-2011, 07:26 PM	#20
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Venus is still blue in the picture, seems a bit lazy correcting her colors but not on the turtle that is closer in the shot __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon