Guess they finally got him? Maybe?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Then of course we still have celebs like Madonna, Bruce Springsteen, Cher, Barbara Streisand, who say they will leave the country if Trump is re-elected in 2024.

I mean.... they always say that but they never follow through.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

So um..... this came out

Could someone summarize what this is about?

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Could someone summarize what this is about?

Basically saying most people who ended up inside the Capitol Building on 6th January (based on the, hah, three clips shown in the video there) were just chilling out and not causing trouble, it was only a small minority terrorising the people inside.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Basically saying most people who ended up inside the Capitol Building on 6th January (based on the, hah, three clips shown in the video there) were just chilling out and not causing trouble, it was only a small minority terrorising the people inside.

Oh, thanks. Glad I didn‘t give that guy a click for that nonsense.

[Andrew NDB]

Admittedly that was a "clip" too clouded in commentary. I could barely watch it myself. But there looks like nuggets in there.

[Barkworm]

People defending the idiocy of January 6 just shows how far things have escalated in the US. The only sensible reaction for the right would have been to apologize and distance themselves from this kind of extremism. Instead, they‘ve been embracing it. It‘s pathetic.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Basically saying most people who ended up inside the Capitol Building on 6th January (based on the, hah, three clips shown in the video there) were just chilling out and not causing trouble, it was only a small minority terrorising the people inside.

It seems there is either more on Twitter, or longer fuller clips. I'm sure July only showed those snippets to avoid Youtube being Youtube. But those clips are becoming 'what Twitter doesn't want you to see', hence their advertisers suddenly pulling out and whatnot. Apparently Facebook group discussing/showing those clips have also been taken down.

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

People defending the idiocy of January 6 just shows how far things have escalated in the US. The only sensible reaction for the right would have been to apologize and distance themselves from this kind of extremism. Instead, they‘ve been embracing it. It‘s pathetic.

Disrupting counting the ballots for a few hours pales in comparison to the summer of love where people actually destroyed and invaded public property to create an autonomous zone.

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

People defending the idiocy of January 6 just shows how far things have escalated in the US. The only sensible reaction for the right would have been to apologize and distance themselves from this kind of extremism. Instead, they‘ve been embracing it. It‘s pathetic.

Apologize for what? Nobody is embracing the actions of the Soros funded infiltrators dressed in Trump gear who were bussed into DC and started rioting on J6. They’re defending the J6 political prisoners being sentenced 20+ years in jail for simply being there that day, compared to Antifa thugs being bailed out by celebrities. Those people you see in the videos wearing masks, face coverings, hoodies, sunglasses etc hiding their faces are definitely not real supporters, obviously. Trump supporter do not wear mask. That’s what leftist do, they hide their face to go riot. Why doesn’t the left condemn the domestic terrorism and violence caused by Antifa, BLM, and now the “free Palestine” movement? I guess that’s (D)ifferent.

Why was Pelosi and her daughter’s film crew being led around the capitol during the “violent insurrection”? Why did they film the Pence phone call twice?

Here’s apparently an actual Trump supporter that day begging capitol police to call for backup once the paid leftist agitators started rioting and destroying property, as the capitol police just stand around calmly, allegedly told to stand down by Pelosi.

https://twitter.com/leslibless/statu...38388446912574

Also heard there were several phone calls that day between Ray Epps and Pelosi.

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

Disrupting counting the ballots for a few hours pales in comparison to the summer of love where people actually destroyed and invaded public property to create an autonomous zone.

Exactly, and they’re still doing it, now in the name of “free Palestine”, there’s been several “protests” turned into violent riots over the last few weeks. It’s obviously the same paid agitators going around dressed in different gear. Only the one where they dressed in Trump gear is condemned by the left.

But leftists shutting down a freeway and causing difficulties for taxpayer citizens trying to get to work, is fine in their book. That’s (D)ifferent.

[Barkworm]

Conspiracy theorists and their weird obsession with George Soros...

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Conspiracy theorists and their weird obsession with George Soros...

Did Soros pay you to say that?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Conspiracy theorists and their weird obsession with George Soros...

Not sure about conspiracy, but this whole J6 business and attempts to present it as some sort of "super mega violent uprising, which nearly toppled US government" is retarded.

And once more, compared to BLM antics, this **** was so mediocre and its execution and consequences. But I don't see people calling BLM "an uprising against government", even though it fits the bill to a "T".

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Not sure about conspiracy, but this whole J6 business and attempts to present it as some sort of "super mega violent uprising, which nearly toppled US government" is retarded.

And once more, compared to BLM antics, this **** was so mediocre and its execution and consequences. But I don't see people calling BLM "an uprising against government", even though it fits the bill to a "T".

Or even now, these pro-Hamas rallies that are taking over capitol buildings.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Not sure about conspiracy, but this whole J6 business and attempts to present it as some sort of "super mega violent uprising, which nearly toppled US government" is retarded.

Well, a coup d'état was surely the intent. Fortunately, the people involved (including their orange guru) were so incompetent and mentally challenged that it didn't amount to much.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

Well, a coup d'état was surely the intent. Fortunately, the people involved (including their orange guru) were so incompetent and mentally challenged that it didn't amount to much.

Still, nowhere near a "massive dangerous event, which had put Democracy in US at near extinction".

Besides, it was basically a godsend to the Democrats to have it as an axe over Trump's head. So, basically no-one, but lefties benefitted from it. Especially since timing was just perfect.

Its not to say I believe in conspiracy that Left somehow organized it, something like that was to be expected after "summer of love" ("if they can do it, so we can do it too!").

[Andrew NDB]

It's why they keep trying to keep it alive. They want it, they need it. They want to keep running on it. I don't think even a good percentage of the people trotting this out still to this day or before even believe it was half as serious as they portend it to be. No one was even charged with "insurrection" as no organizational anything could be proven, which is a necessary component to claim that.

Is it something we should "defend," or I defend? Of course not, that's stupid, and this whole march was stupid by stupid people. But pretending it was something remotely significant, particularly in light of similarly timed events, that's even stupider. It was a bunch of loons going into the capitol building (being let in by some accounting/video/photos) that was then highly politicized by the left, predictably and hungry for something like this that they could twist to their ends.

"But people died!" Yeah, one lady that entered the building was shot in the neck and killed by police, arguably unnecessarily but hey, I'm willing to chalk that off as maybe the officer felt sufficiently threatened at the moment -- I wasn't there. That's it. Others had heart attacks days later and other unrelated stuff. I think one other suicide more days later, but this all gets lumped together by the same people. And it wasn't an "armed" anything unless you count people picking up trash cans and hurling them around, which the media absolutely do count as that, which is why most of the dumb masses around were successfully and subtly convinced by the mainstream media that this was a horde of, like, the general world mental idea of your average cartoon character-style gang of Texan-types storming the building with AR-15s or something. This is a fiction they want to wish retroactively into reality but some people really seem to have bought that. To the rest of us, it's all just one great big smdh and gtfoh.

[Barkworm]

No matter how trivial a thing like this might seem to you (and playing down an event where people loudly called for the murder of the vice-president is… questionable), don‘t blame democrats for using this against Trump. It‘s entirely his own fault for being the pathetic little crybaby he is.

EDIT: Unless of course you deny that he incited the attack even though he absolutely did. Then sure, the democrats are too blame, these evil monsters.

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

No matter how trivial a thing like this might seem to you (and playing down an event where people loudly called for the murder of the vice-president is… questionable), don‘t blame democrats for using this against Trump. It‘s entirely his own fault for being the pathetic little crybaby he is.

EDIT: Unless of course you deny that he incited the attack even though he absolutely did. Then sure, the democrats are too blame, these evil monsters.

Yeah, delaying counting ballots for a few hours is pretty trivial. There was very little violence that occurred, minimal damage, *actually* mostly peaceful. It was different then the type of protesting democrats had been cheering for leading up to J6. You know...where they were destroyed peoples livelihoods, attacked people, took over government owned buildings, segregated people, started police forces that would harass people trying to film and record if they didn't agree with them. Yeah, the precedent that the democrats set makes J6 really acceptable in comparison.

They have wished Trump dead since he started running for his term in office. What is your point?

Even any speech, where the worse that I have heard from Trump was "lets fight for our rights" or something like, was more moderate then various democrats around that time who encouraged people to follow and harass republicans.

So yeah, all of your moral superiority is bunk. You are choosing a side based on you not liking orange man, rather then what actually happened.

The left/democrats are hypocrites.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Bahamut810

Even any speech, where the worse that I have heard from Trump was "lets fight for our rights" or something like, was more moderate then various democrats around that time who encouraged people to follow and harass republicans.

Politicians were actively making speeches for people to riot if that George Floyd cop got off free. But you know.... it's ok when the Democrats do it.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

No matter how trivial a thing like this might seem to you (and playing down an event where people loudly called for the murder of the vice-president is… questionable), don‘t blame democrats for using this against Trump. It‘s entirely his own fault for being the pathetic little crybaby he is.

The fact they used it against Trump - is normal, its politics.
The fact they make it BIG LIFE CHANGING EVENT, WHICH HADN'T HAPENED BEFORE, when just few month ago they have cheered for crowds of feral bandits on the streets to burn and loot, looks horrible hypocritical and dumb.