Unrest in Ukraine

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

Just a wild thought: what if Putin isn’t the bad guy?

Here's another wild thought: **** off with that commie rhetoric, comrade.

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

The military strength of the United States alone, let alone all of NATO, is vastly superior to Russia and if applied in full force, would've sent all the Communist Animals back to their graves, even if Nuclear weapons became involved.

No need to go that far, either of the two new NATO members alone could do it. Heck, let Poland have a go, they've been chomping at the bit for the longest time. Any of the top 10-15 members of NATO by themselves could make Russia their bitch, that's how much of a paper tiger that country is.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

It would be also be amazing to see Germany take a hard stance against Russia for the Degenerate Communist Menace they are, and not be plagued by war guilt.

[ChosenOne]

Evidently there will have to be a line to kick Russia's *ss, assuming Ukraine leaves anything for the rest of us.

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

The military strength of the United States alone, let alone all of NATO, is vastly superior to Russia and if applied in full force, would've sent all the Communist Animals back to their graves, even if Nuclear weapons became involved.

However, the powers that-be are not seeking to immediately destroy Russia, hence why ties have not completely severed despite Russsian brutality being unexcusable. A certain amount of pressure must be applied on Russia in the form of sanctions and arms supplies to Ukraine, so as to not alienate the masses who are rightfully sympathetic to the Ukranian plight.

The most moral solution is nothing short of a total lightning war, the shortest war to bring down The Marxist Hoardes and save Eastern Europe from their aggression. The longer the war drags on, the longer the danger of public indifference will begin to endanger Ukraine, and it will turn the tides just like Vietnam.

Exactly. Politicians want war, they get rich from it. Putin probably wouldn’t have made his move if we didn’t have a clown administration running the US. And I keep hearing people on twitter saying that Ukraine has NAZIs? And that they’re trying to make it a NATO country so that the US participates in the war. I guess they think Putin will conquer Ukraine than go on to conquer the rest of Europe, all by himself?

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Here's another wild thought: **** off with that commie rhetoric, comrade.

That’s hilarious. I literally just said I don’t wanna see the US fall to the WEF, the biggest communist organization in the world, as a result of this war. US taxpayers are getting f****d over this war that nobody asked for, setting us up to be “saved” by the great reset. You seem to be 100% on board with what the elite globalists want you to think and feel about this “current thing”. Maybe you’re the “commie”?

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

That’s hilarious. I literally just said I don’t wanna see the US fall to the WEF, the biggest communist organization in the world, as a result of this war. US taxpayers are getting f****d over this war that nobody asked for, setting us up to be “saved” by the great reset. You seem to be 100% on board with what the elite globalists want you to think and feel about this “current thing”. Maybe you’re the “commie”?

Talk to the hand: ..i..

[MikeandRaph87]

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...hk-2023-03-21/

While Jinping pretends to make peace meeting Putin then Zelensky Japan officially aligns with NATO, Australia, and Israel assisting Ukraine.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Japan officially aligns with NATO, Australia, and Israel assisting Ukraine.

Good. Now the entire civilized world has come together.

[Andrew NDB]

Doesn't Japan not really even have a military anymore?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Doesn't Japan not really even have a military anymore?

They do have an army, its just not called like that, its called Japanese Self-Defense Forces, since post-war constitution prohibited them from having a regular army. With the neighbors like North Korea and China you must have an army.

[MikeandRaph87]

It's for self-defense purposes and preparing to protect it's islands in the South China Sea if Jinping is emboldened by Putin to attack Taiwan. Japan likely will come to Taiwan's aide. At the moment Japan has about 250,000 active soldiers in it's self-defense program. It's also financing long range and naval missiles and preparing for naval or air defense becoming the third biggest military spender despite its constitutional limitation.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...up-2022-12-16/

[Cowabung-Gal]

The SCOTUS whistleblower still hasn’t been caught yet, but this guy is immediately hunted down?

So Ukraine is apparently losing the war, and Biden’s been sending American troops there without Congressional authorization?

You mean the government lied to us?? Say it ain’t so!!

[Bahamut810]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

So Ukraine is apparently losing the war, and Biden’s been sending American troops there without Congressional authorization?

The president does have the power, as the commander in chief to send the troops into conflicts without congressional approval. He cant send them for an extended period of time, and he cant declare war...but he can send forces out.

[TurtleManiac]

Biden Regime Sends $325 Million More in Security Aid to Ukraine, Following $2.1 Billion Arm Aid Sent 4 Days Earlier

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...e-security-aid

[ChosenOne]

That Burisma deal is really paying off!

[MikeandRaph87]

The Wagner Group field leader sent out a video stating that Russia's troops are getting into it's way and it's reason for invasion is based on nothing but lies. Kremlin immediately denounces it. It cannot be long now before an official divorce.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/russian-me...203300794.html

Here it's suggesting Wagner could attack Russian troops. Be nice if it coordinated with Ukraine and freed the occupied areas but its probably asking for too much. It's like Shredder hired Rat King to kill the Turtles, but the scummy opportunist that Rat King is isn't helping the Turtles so much as wanting to ruin Shredder's current plan before leaving the scene.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/europ...ntl/index.html

[ChosenOne]

After Prigozhin hacked public TV broadcasts to deliver his condemnation of the invasion, a 400 vehicle-strong Wagner column is currently advancing on Moscow, and the city is on high alert. Checkpoints are being set up along the main highways and apparently the Internet, or at least Google, has been blocked in the entire country.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

After Prigozhin hacked public TV broadcasts to deliver his condemnation of the invasion, a 400 vehicle-strong Wagner column is currently advancing on Moscow, and the city is on high alert. Checkpoints are being set up along the main highways and apparently the Internet, or at least Google, has been blocked in the entire country.

That is not true, at least for now. Basically no-one knows what is going on right now. Official news obfuscate everything. Independent sources basically spam various rumors, which can not checked.

I am not sure about about hacked TV stations - most likely those are lies. 400 vehicle-strong is also seem to be an exaggeration.

However, something do happen.
We are in for an interesting times anyway.

[IMJ]

I am actually experiencing some indecisive confusion about the current perception of what is going on.

There are a lot of people beginning to take the position that Zelensky is some kind of "dictator" and that we shouldn't be helping them against being invaded. It's cognitive dissonance in it's purest form.

I feel like the calculus is simple. There are national borders, Putin is trying to impose his will in a flagrant invasion and crossed those borders and killed people. The end.

I dunno.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Sumac

That is not true, at least for now. Basically no-one knows what is going on right now. Official news obfuscate everything. Independent sources basically spam various rumors, which can not checked.

I am not sure about about hacked TV stations - most likely those are lies. 400 vehicle-strong is also seem to be an exaggeration.

However, something do happen.
We are in for an interesting times anyway.

I've seen videos of the hacked broadcasts on the news. The fact that you, on the ground, aren't certain of what's going on is the regime propaganda working as intended.

Wagner forces have captured Rostov and suffered a couple of bombings already, while Putin delivers angry speeches. "Interesting" is putting it mildly...

I hope you and yours stay safe, and let the bastards take each other out.

Originally Posted by IMJ

I am actually experiencing some indecisive confusion about the current perception of what is going on.

There are a lot of people beginning to take the position that Zelensky is some kind of "dictator" and that we shouldn't be helping them against being invaded. It's cognitive dissonance in it's purest form.

I feel like the calculus is simple. There are national borders, Putin is trying to impose his will in a flagrant invasion and crossed those borders and killed people. The end.

I dunno.

Those people are pro-Russia trolls. Ignore them. Your calculus is quite correct. The real crux of the matter is that this invasion shouldn’t even have started, it only did because of the current void in leadership in the West.

[TurtleManiac]

There does seem to be some suspicious money laundering activity though, or are we supposed to believe it was really just an “honest mistake” that the Biden admin “accidentally” sent an additional $6.2 Billion dollars of U.S. taxpayer money to Ukraine because of a Pentagon accounting error?

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-r...39d5b1973a44ef

The same admin who sends IRS agents to audit any small business transactions over $600.