Unrest in Ukraine

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Leo656

ORRRRR one begets the other.

Well we'll probably all see you there

Russia set Nuclear deterrent to high alert

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-vl...alert-12553278

[MikeandRaph87]

That's what he gets for Putin his eggs all in one basket and Russian to a conclusion!


Turkey? Considering the U.S. has nuclear weapons there and helped transition it into a democracy I am surprised.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Turkey? Considering the U.S. has nuclear weapons there and helped transition it into a democracy I am surprised.

It had ended up rule of Erdogan who is basically Turkish Putin, but so far more sane.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

While the people of your nation are either too weak or too afraid to do anything or "just can't," so they either try and risk arrest or sit there doing nothing, so you really have no room to talk about what other nations should be doing about this when they're the ones actually trying to strategize that out in a way that doesn't just set YOUR leader off to trying to start World War 3 with everyone else.

They have 8 years to strategize the answer, yet, they started doing something, when it was too late!
And all of that, because, modern Western politicians are too weak and complacent to do anything for real.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Blah blah blah screaming about "leftists"... But hey, a conservative nation with little freedom of speech because they support authoritarianism and as a result exist stuck under the thumb of a crazy autocrat that they are too weak to do anything about and now he's launching attacks on a neighboring country. So how is that working out for you??

Thanks for showing off your ignorance and lack of education yet again, like a typical Leftie. Apparently in your world "of magical unicorns and transteddy bears" only two political positions are possible, with only two results. Education had failed you. But I forgive you for that. I am that kind. lol

I know that your kind is drunk on kool-aid, but you know, kid, you are not better than Putin. You both exists in fictional worlds and act like everyone else are crazy when they suggest that your personal world view do not define reality. The only difference that bald lunatic has power and you are not, gladly, since you would not fare better.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

It's not a coincidence that this happens with a conservative, authoritarian minded country or that, even if you reject Putin, you still found Trump, a like minded wannabe autocrat himself, appealing.

First, suggesting that I am rooting for dictators is retarded. Glad, that you have not failed my expectations, though.
Second, only complete clown will compare Putin and Trump. You have a won a trophy: "Trump deranged Syndrome Representation".
I am waiting for inevitable comparison between Trump and Hitler, cries about Trump Death Squads (tm) marching on streets killing Blacks and Gays RIGHT ABOUT NOW, SEND WUWU, and something-something about Trump starting war with North Korea or Madagascar.

You remind me of those idiots in Twitter, who are still whining about Trump, tying him somehow to this crisis. I am not even excluding that you are one of them. Typical NPC behavior.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Yeah, as someone who is left of center, the lure of authoritarianism that some conservatives, largely the Far Right type, find so appealing is certainly one of the rather concerning things about their ideology and choices in political leaders because the rest of us DON'T WANT TO BECOME RUSSIA.

Yeah, which is why you'd like to censor and unperson everyone and everything, which doesn't fit your "UWU pwecious" world view, as well, as literally giving all possible power to the state so they could decide, which opinion is right and which is wrong and act accordingly.

But, no you don't find appeal in authoritarianism! Not at all! You just want your party to have absolute control over every facet of human life, brainwashing little kids into your agenda, unpersoning and eliminating everything and everyone who challenges it! But you are totally not like a Nazi or Fascists!

No, sir, you are just delirious clown, who compares run of the mill showman to the crazy madman and see everyone who disagrees with you as "far-rights". But you are totally sane and rational and kind person.

You just hellbent on total genocide of everyone who dislikes your world view! But you are a good guy and should be allowed to do that because, your daddy didn't bought you a pony and your mom didn't approved of your new hairstyle, when you was a teenager, which gave you horrible mental trauma, which, in your mind, allows you to **** the world as you see fit and call everyone bad guys, if they don't lick your boots, because, you are so awesome and amazing and UWU Pwecious heroine of your own amazing epic ****ing story!!

Honestly at this point, I am surprised you brain haven't created a black hole, due to all the cognitive dissonance inhabiting your head.

People like you can't create anything. They can only destroy.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

You wanna pitch in on some of that, because that's our tax dollars being sent to fight your nation's absurd war on Ukraine while our own people are hurting under the same rising inflation as many other nations and this unnecessary war is only going to make it worse, but maybe that's one of Putin's goals.

You chose Sleepy Brandon Joe - you should pay more for that!

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Putin has been planning this for at least four years and Trump being in the White House didn't deter him at all....

Yet, Putin hadn't done it during Trump's reign.
I don't care what reasoning you use, because, at this point it will look like an another deflection. The outcome is the same - none of that had happened during Trump being POTUS.

I've got it, you don't like Trump, but saying "but Putin could have done it, but he didn't, but he could have done..." is basically acting like those trained NPC monkeys who screamed about Trump becoming dictator for life, launching his own Gestapo and the like, none of which had happened. Don't be like dumb NPC and I give you some respect.

Originally Posted by Galactus

The side that makes these into big issues is the political right. For the sake of discussion let's examine the examples you cited:

1. Even if you don't believe in the science behind transgender people why is it a big deal if someone lives and identifies as a gender they weren't born as? They are not harming anyone by doing that so why does the right have such a problem with it? Surely countries that are founded on the principal that people are free to live their lives as they want should be okay with it.

2. Are we talking about comic book related characters? Is it a bad thing that people think that people of colour should occasionally profit on writing characters of colour? Even from a creative standpoint it's a fair point that they may help bring a more authentic voice to that character.

3. I don't think there has been a conversation about the appropriate time to give a child a sex toy (age of consent debates are more of alt right thing) or whether someone can identify as an animal. I know this was your attempt at humour but I just thought I'd point it out.

Mate, if those issues are discussed on the level of Dem president and the like and used as one of the keystones of Dem platform, I'd say it is not Right who make them that important. So you are demonstrating either an ignorance or a delusion, yet again.

1) Wrong. Those issues affect everyone. Especially women and kids.

Trans are mentally ill people. They deserve normal treatment, but their mental illness, doesn't deserve to be taught in schools and propagandized as if it is something normal. Trying to convince 3 year old that he is not a boy, because, he "feels" like it and trying to feed him pills is sick and inhuman. Making laws defending right of mentally ill people harass those who disagree with them is unlawful. Making laws that give preferences to the mentally ill people is wrong.

2) I am sure, Black creator who received education in the prestigious university or just lived in the middle class suburbs will be very different from the White creator who lived in the same conditions. Wait, he won't be different at all.

Also, this very point of view, that "POCs can give character unique voice" is Racist, because, it assumes that POCS has some "innate" difference from Whites, due to their race, which discards such things as education, culture, family and the like. Its basically "magical negro", but in some twisted positive way. Which is still inherently Racist.

3) Sadly it was not. There are plenty of degenerates on the Left, who are debate age of consent, but proudly say, they explain sex to they kids even before 10.

Of course, you pretend that to be a humor, because, you deathly afraid to look into how stupid and twisted your own precious ideology has become. You are afraid to look truth in the eyes, because, it might horrify you and destroy you, since you are so desperate to protect your ideology.
But, maybe you should?

I did and stopped being SJW and saw modern Left and Left in general for what they really are. Not an easy experience, but very good for a personal growth and maturing.

Originally Posted by Galactus

White people are literally not second class citizens anywhere in the western world and if things like teaching about slavery or Jim Crow and how the effects of these things still linger in society today make some white people feel like second class citizens...well maybe they should think how a lot black people feel who still have to live with the negative affects of living in these systems.

1) A lot of statements from certain segments of the Left (and not only Black supremacists) are outright present "Whiteness" as an original sin and White people as irredeemably evil and inherently Racist and Sexist. Like they are source of all evil on the planet.

2) You are basically operating on the idea of "revenge", which is retarded and illogical, because, you want some group of Blacks (who didn't live through the Jim Crow laws) to have revenge against arbitrary group of Whites (who didn't create Jim Crow laws), as if it fixes all injustices committed against Blacks in the history of US.
It is very childish and Racist way of thinking, btw. But I didn't expect anything else from a modern leftie.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Your statement here come dangerously close to saying that it's black peoples fault that white supremacy on the rise. It's strange to me that you ask us to consider the feelings and fears of Putin's supporters and homophobes and white nationalists but make light of the feelings of the people they try to oppress.

I am not sure how did you read it in my statements, but I think there is something in Left NPCs heads, which "translates" text through the ideological lens into typical Left gibberish.

Now to make things clear: I don't ask "to consider the feelings and fears of Putin's supporters and homophobes and white nationalists". Show me where I did say that? I dare you.

Also, no, White Supremacy is the fault of spineless bureaucrats, who failed basically every single policy they have created and proposed over the course of the last few decades. I've explained it in details before.

Originally Posted by Galactus

I lived in Spain until the age of 8 and there were tons of immigrants from England that came to live and work there that couldn't speak a word of Spanish....

Because, at the end of the day English culture is not that different from Spanish? They speak tongue most people can understand, they have traditions most people can understand, they have similar religion. What is so puzzling about that?

Originally Posted by Galactus

In my experience most economic migrants that come to the UK do speak a basic standard of English....

It is a problem, because, if you want a healthy and functioning society it should have some sort of unity.

If you plan to live in society you MUST learn its language, because, language is the most basic mean of communication between people in functioning society. If you don't learn language of the society, you exclude yourself from it and basically set yourself up to be ostracized. Which in turn makes it easier to become a criminal.

And, no, its not fault of "horrible xenophobic" society for wanting its members to be able to communicate with each other and ostracize those who do not want to do so.

If significant part of your society is not on the same page as the rest of it, it creates tension and ultimately, divides it into several groups, which inevitably leads to infighting.

It is very convenient for politicians to use as means of distraction, which they are doing as we speak, especially in US and UK. Just blame some "ebul White people", throw more money at immigrants who don't understand society they live in and wait until another street fight or murder occurs. Repeat until you get re-elected for another 4 years.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Why? It's a free country. If a cis gendered person has a nick name they prefer to be called or changed their name for whatever reason we don't call them their birth name to deliberately antagonise them...not unless you're a huge jerk. The same principal applies with transgender people, you may not believe in transgenderism but you can at least do someone the basic courtesy of referring to them how they prefer. Also the right to protest is a fundamental part of a free society and taking a knee is very respectful way to do it that harms no one and funnily enough Colin Kaepernick was doing it for months and no one cared until they found out what exactly what he was protesting.

There is a difference between nickname of a normal sane person and fake name taken upon by a mentally ill person in an attempt to legitimize their insanity.
I do not give basic courtesy to the mentally ill people, since I know how it usually ends - in a constant abuse, suicide-baiting, insults and gaslighting.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Nothing to say to this other than I'm leaving it here to show people who may agree with some of your points just how deep your bigotry goes and just what kind of person they'd be siding with.

Words of delusional zealot.

I wonder, how does it feel to be so limited that anything that doesn't fit your narrow minded definition of "truth" is considered "bigotry"? Must be like a constant migraine. I wonder how does it feel, when you see something that can not be classified as "good" or "bad" in your worldview? Guess, confusing as ****, like for a little child to see something he can't explain.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah I do notice the left has an almost cartoonish view of good and evil. It pretty much falls under two categories.

Either you're a saint or you're Hitler, no in-between, no shades of grey

and also

Everything a certain group of people do is evil... unless I do it. When I do it it's righteous.

[IndigoErth]

(@Sumac) Get over yourself rightist sheep. You're told some script to believe about "liberals" and you do nothing but try to cram anyone's opinions and comments into an absurd and incredibly generalized narrative when you don't even know the people who you are here bitching against -- nor actually know my country -- and just choose to twist stuff and tell anyone who they are and what they do based on some fantasy you believe. Like that weird stuff about unicorns, batman, and so on that I don't even know wtf is about and should probably aught to know better than to even bother going back and forth with you if you're going to repeatedly stoop to childish smears and crazy narratives about what the "other" people supposedly believe and do.

In my years on here I've generally tried to be civil to people and give most the benefit of the doubt, even trying to interact positively with those whom they and I don't necessarily agree on much, but all I get is s*** back from a few miserable people who want a Ninja Turtles forum to be their political safe space echo chamber where other opinions aren't allowed.

But hey, good luck out there if the rest of the world tires of Putin's BS and invades your own land.





Anyway... saw in passing reports of Ukraine destroying a whole Russian convoy. o.O Geeze, never mess with Ukraine...

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Yeah I do notice the left has an almost cartoonish view of good and evil. It pretty much falls under two categories.

Either you're a saint or you're Hitler, no in-between, no shades of grey

and also

Everything a certain group of people do is evil... unless I do it. When I do it it's righteous.

"Rules for thee, but not for me".
Also, notice how Left love to pretend to be oppressed. Its basically the way how they earn sympathy from normal people and use it usurp power and take over societies. This is the same way Christians did it and, ironically, real Nazis.

[Leo656]

Won't lie... Kinda like it when the place is up in flames and it has nothing to do with me for once.

On the other hand, kinda sad when people are at each others' throats and I had nothing to do with instigating it. Makes me feel useless.

Is there anything I can do to help? Most of the people I hate don't post in these kinda threads so I kinda don't know what to do.

[ZariusTwo]

FIFA have instructed Russia to play their games in neutral territory, to identify as the 'Football Union of Russia', and they are not to be represented by their flag or anthem


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60548685

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

FIFA have instructed Russia to play their games in neutral territory, to identify as the 'Football Union of Russia', and they are not to be represented by their flag or anthem


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60548685

Oh, well damn. I guess they'll just pull out of Ukraine straight away, then, in that case.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh, well damn. I guess they'll just pull out of Ukraine straight away, then, in that case.

Right? Good to know they're worrying about the important stuff.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

(@Sumac) Get over yourself rightist sheep. You're told some script to believe about "liberals" and you do nothing but try to cram anyone's opinions and comments into an absurd and incredibly generalized narrative when you don't even know the people who you are here bitching against -- nor actually know my country -- and just choose to twist stuff and tell anyone who they are and what they do based on some fantasy you believe. Like that weird stuff about unicorns, batman, and so on that I don't even know wtf is about and should probably aught to know better than to even bother going back and forth with you if you're going to repeatedly stoop to childish smears and crazy narratives about what the "other" people supposedly believe and do.

I think I've broken NPC.
Like completely erased its "brain", so it can no longer understand information or function.
Oh well. Not a great loss for humanity.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

In my years on here I've generally tried to be civil to people and give most the benefit of the doubt, even trying to interact positively with those whom they and I don't necessarily agree on much, but all I get is s*** back from a few miserable people who want a Ninja Turtles forum to be their political safe space echo chamber where other opinions aren't allowed.

Maybe there is a reason you're receiving ****...maybe it has something to do with your condescending and arrogant tone, the fact that you are acting like an entitled and delusional child?

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

But hey, good luck out there if the rest of the world tires of Putin's BS and invades your own land.

You are threatening me with..being free from a tyrant and my country having chance at better life?

Are you seriously so stunted that you pretend that I have some influence over situation here or gonna defend tyrant?

wut...? Desperate to insult me much, child? But go on cry why no-one likes you.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Galactus

The New York Post that originally ran the story based on three tweets that criticised what Adele said at the Brit Awards. Well at least we have to take their word that there were three tweets criticising because no one can any evidence of one of them...maybe they deleted it very quickly. The tweets themselves politely expressed the sentiment that given the theme of that years event it probably wasn't the best idea to say what she said. These three were enough to send The New York Post, Fox News and several right wing youtubers in a mad frenzy about the Left was piling on Adele and trying to make out she was a transphobe for days. It was entirely manufactured controversy that got tons of Conservatives angry when there were bigger things to mad at that three very mild tweets criticising a popstar.

Knowing TRA, I can say you are lying - there were not three, but thirty tweets, if not more. And if you end up in crosshair of this crowd - they will try to cancel you again and again. Just ask JK Rowling.

Originally Posted by Galactus

That's not a thing that happens ever. It's something Sumac made up as a joke.

And if I can prove it is not a joke and such degenerates are real?
Though, I suspect you know that, just afraid to admit to it, since it will be a critical hit against your precious ideology.

"Brave and free liberals, apparently, also sexual deviants and pedophiles!" I am sure it will endear a lot of people to your cause and this is what you care the most about - an IMAGE, not reality.

Originally Posted by Galactus

I don't watch a whole lot of childrens programming. Very occasionally I put kids shows on if I'm up early on weekends and interestingly I've never seen anything remotely gay so it's certainly not something widespread. From what I've read there's cartoons which have gay supporting characters and some occasional rainbow imagery. I wouldn't say that's indoctrination.

But, of course, you would not.
Its like asking, if tiger finds rabbits disgusting.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Critical race theory is something taught at the collegiate level. It basically a course on the history of changing laws around African Americans and how even now laws are applied differently to Black and Caucasian people in the United States and examining the societal reasons why this is. It's become a catch-all term for any kind of lesson (in any level of education) addressing the history of racism in the US beyond the very basic slavery and Jim Crow was bad, MLK gave a speech and racism was over bar a few bad eggs.

What about subset of CRT, which teaches White kids to hate their own culture and their own skin color, teach them to see themselves as irredeemably evil and indebted to all other races?

I already know that you fancy idea of revenge against Whites, which is retarded, hateful and Racist in itself, so I don't really expect any adequate lesson bar some nonsense about "it never happens" and "you misunderstand" and the like.

Originally Posted by Galactus

I'm not sure there are any lessons teaching kids there are more than 2 sexes however teachers are encouraged to tell their pupils not to pick on the a kid that identifies as trans or seems like they could be and to accept them for how they are.

I am sure spreading booklets about transiness to little kids is not an indoctrination and denying existence of two sexes is totally normal.

Originally Posted by Galactus

While many of these topics could best be discussed in other threads it is somewhat tangentially connected. While the mainstream discourse on both sides of the political divide save for one notable Fox News pundit and one former president to condemn Putin's invasion some figures on the alt right are are excusing or even supporting it. The two main reasons seem to be that NATO simply existing forced poor ol' Putin to invade Ukraine. The other is that because Putin is anti-woke he should be supported. ******** of course but I wouldn't be suprised to see this crop in mainstream discourse.

You are funny.
You speak just like worst possible example of the "canonical internet Leftie NPC". You are literally repeating delusional nonsense and divide people into several categories according to your rulebook, failing to see people behind ideologies. And I thought it was a main difference between compassionate liberals and coldhearted calculative conservatives.

But apparently its just a sham - you are no better than zealots who claim about endless oppression of Blacks in West or Arabian terrorists launching missiles into peaceful countries, claiming they are real victims.
Shame on you, kid. Shame on you.

[Vegita-San]

so, why is 'new world order' trending on twitter?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

so, why is 'new world order' trending on twitter?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

so, why is 'new world order' trending on twitter?

A Ukrainian was interviewed by FOX basically saying she would defend her country and the new world order. Some indoctrinated lefities are now seeing this as a sign that the NWO is a benevolent force to be reckoned with.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Sports boycots of Russia:

Sweden and Finland will not play the Bandy World Championship in Russia

https://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...russia-boycott

FIFA suspends Russia from playing qualifying games for the 2022 FIFA Soccer World Cup in Qatar.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/28/s...ussia-ban.html

The UEFA Soccer Champions League final game on 28 May has been moved from Saint Petersburg, Russia to Paris, France.

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsle...o-stage-final/

As long as current conditions continue, the International Ice Hockey Federation suspends Russia and Belarus from international ice hockey competitions.

https://www.iihf.com/en/news/32301/i...r_russia_belar

Latvian ice hockey club Dinamo Riga leave the KHL.

https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/...ga-leaves-khl/

Russians and Belarusians will not be allowed to partciipate in the Vasaloppet cross-country skiing competition in Sweden in March 2022.

https://www.vasaloppet.se/en/news/no...saloppet-2022/

Russia and Belarus will probably be suspended from the Paralympic Winter Games in Beijng, China in March 2022.

https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2022/...c-paralympics/

[Leo656]

What annoys me is how everything still comes back to Trump.

Like, Putin's being an asshole and it's right that everyone is calling it out.

Here's the thing, though: The Democrats are only vocally anti-Putin because he was "Trump's Buddy." They're only saying it's okay to intervene and fight back and try to stop him, all that... NOT because what he's doing is wrong - which it is - but because he was "Trump's Buddy".

Whenever ANY other foreign country shows violent aggression against their neighbors, the Democrats are always VERY vocal about how "Over There is Over There, we can't get involved, that's their culture and their values and it's none of our business and blah blah blah."

It's all very telling. And very annoying. The Democrats don't actually care about this, collectively, except as a way to use it against "Trump Supporters". It's not actually about the fact that Putin's a bad dude going bad sh*t. Palestine vs. Israel, Iraq vs. Kuwait, and on and on and on... the Democrats' opinions on one country violently attacking/invading their neighbors are longstanding and on-record: "We don't care... UNLESS we can use it for leverage against our opponents."

Like, anyone with a long memory should be able to see this sh*t. And laugh at it, because it's so transparent.

Ah well. At least they're mad at Putin. It's just annoying because if Trump had been anti-Putin or Putin-neutral, they'd be saying "Eh, it's Over There, none of our business, let's not point fingers." Because they ALWAYS are like that until it suits them.

[Sumac]

Yeah, this is ****ing annoying and creepy.
I check tags in Twitter sometimes and when I click "Putin" first few messages are usually have something to do with Trump or GOP.
Leftards are indeed sore losers.

[Coola Yagami]

Oh and more fun. Now Discord went full woke and leftist. They're threatening to ban anyone that is against the vaccine or part of any group considered problematic, and I'm assuming if you're on the wrong side of this Russia/Ukraine debacle. Plus they also now want to ban you if they find you're being problematic on other platforms. Like I don't know how you would even know.

On other news, but still somewhat related to this, OnlyFans is now banning all Russian um.... 'creators' off their site. Like what do they have to do with anything. Leave the Russian titties alone.

Soon you'll be cancelled if they find out you've been jackin it to the Black Widow and the Baroness.