Star Wars Episode 8

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

Leia in general was worthless and got the worst treatment out of the original 3.

Mostly by Fisher's own design. She apparently made it clear from the beginning she wanted very little to do.

Han going back to ANH Han was lame but at least it was fun,

Super lame. Not fun.

Luke's absence had a ****** explanation but overall he still got to do cool stuff.

No cool stuff. The only "cool" thing he did was the Force projection and the shoulder brush-off, which everyone hated.

What did Leia do in the new trilogy that was at least cool?

I'd argue the Mary Poppins maneuver, if only for the simple reason that we finally got to see Leia use the Force in some meaningful way. Particularly after we were told she never bothered to learn the Force by Abrams in the previous movie because [insert bullsh** reasoning].

[Leo656]

I wanted to see Leia use the Force somehow, but not like that. That was the corniest goddamn thing I've ever seen. Almost anything else would've been better.

It's made so much worse by the fact that the movie clearly and strongly wants you to buy the moment as Crazy Awesome.

Clearly a "F*ck it, they're nerds, they don't care" moment.

[MikeandRaph87]

https://screenrant.com/last-jedi-luk...es-comparison/

Who does he think he is fooling?

[Andrew NDB]

Mark Hamill says we should stop electing any male leaders:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...PGlr6yfq2hUpYE

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Mark Hamill says we should stop electing any male leaders:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...PGlr6yfq2hUpYE

you can't be playing both sides, Mr.Hamil. Grow some balls and choose one. sigh.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

you can't be playing both sides, Mr.Hamil. Grow some balls and choose one. sigh.

I call this my Vegita-San gif

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

I call this my Vegita-San gif

https://i.imgur.com/Egh3Lhe.gif

Perfect

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Mark Hamill says we should stop electing any male leaders:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...PGlr6yfq2hUpYE

C'mon, stop pandering to crazies.
Don't become second Feig, Luke!!

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

I call this my Vegita-San gif

https://i.imgur.com/Egh3Lhe.gif

After seeing the state Theresa May left Britain in yesterday, they are indeed to be feared...because they f*ck everything up

[Vegita-San]

I'd do a gif for the crazy ness of autbot, but that would be rude and un professional.

I saw all the replies to mark hamil's tweet. nice to see the 85% of them seemed to be calling him out for the nuttiness.

[Egon1982]

Originally Posted by Sumac

He had said "most" not "all".
Besides, Blade Runner is a sequel and Mad Max more of the soft reboot / sequel.
And Planet of the Apes had failed reboot back in 2001.,

Blade Runner was a sequel, not reboot.

Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Batman Begins, Man of Steel, Casino Royale and Spider-Man Homecoming are true reboots.

Elm Street, Robocop and Rob Zombie's Halloween are remakes.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Egon1982

Blade Runner was a sequel, not reboot.

Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Batman Begins, Man of Steel, Casino Royale and Spider-Man Homecoming are true reboots.

Elm Street, Robocop and Rob Zombie's Halloween are remakes.

Agreed! But on the latter three... they are reboots AND remakes. They can be both, and they are.

[Egon1982]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Agreed! But on the latter three... they are reboots AND remakes. They can be both, and they are.

Not really because Robocop and Elm Street are the same basic story as the original movies and aren't completely different stories as they are remakes plain and simple because they are retelling the same story as the originals.

You have to tell a completely very different story in a competely different to be a reboot like Rise of the Planet of the Apes which is creating a new franchise with a competely different origin story, same for Batman Begins as it's not the same story as the 1989 Burton film and same for Dark Knight which is completely different than 1989's Joker vs Batman story.

[Andrew NDB]

Rian Johnson still proud of The Last Jedi. Says he really "swung at the ball."

https://www.darkhorizons.com/rian-jo...-of-last-jedi/

[IMJ]

Remember all of his trashing the fans and inventing a world of Misogynists' and racists and crybabies as explanation for the fandom he screwed over with his movie?

Of course a guy like that is going to double down years later and defiantly discuss his "pride" for his $#!(show. That guy should never get another theater, disc or streaming dollar again for his work - not only because of the Last Jedi but literally because of who and how he is.

[Leo656]

But I mean, even aside from that idiot, some other idiot at Disney actually really thought that a "trilogy" of disjointed, unconnected films (except for the cast) was the best way to do the Sequel Trilogy.

"Let's use the same characters, and ostensibly tell one long story in three parts, but let's have each movie be made by different people, who don't talk to each other, who have wildly different ideas and values and storytelling methods. I'm sure it'll all work out!"

Like, that might work out okay for an anthology spin-off series, but not for what they were actually trying to do. At the very LEAST, if they were going to have different people make each movie in the trilogy they needed to sit down at the very beginning and create a longform outline of the plot and story beats. Making it up as they went along did more damage than anything else, because you could TELL they were just completely making it all up as they went along.

YES, the Original Trilogy suffers from many of the same problems, but that was many years ago and things were a lot more haphazard then. There's no excuse to just wing it NOW, when you're playing with that much money and so on. As the sequel trilogy went on you could just really tell that the people making the movies had no f*cking idea what they were doing or what the actual message of the movies was supposed to be. No cohesion whatsoever.

[member_removed]

Originally Posted by Leo656

But I mean, even aside from that idiot, some other idiot at Disney actually really thought that a "trilogy" of disjointed, unconnected films (except for the cast) was the best way to do the Sequel Trilogy.

I think the idea has some merit, under the right circumstances could work, but that's big ask.

Using the Alien franchise as my example, with the first two films (at least) we get two very different movies told by two different story tellers. As for 3 and Resurrection, while not great, I'd take them over Prometheus or Covenant

I think the Alien Franchise worked as an ongoing narrative (at least the story of Ripley) told by different story tellers.

I think this model could have worked for SW, but it needed a Kevin Feige type, to mould and help the direction of story. Hell all 3 scripts should have been finished before principle filming began.

Unfournately for Star Wars, Kennedy is no Feige.

I think the rot started when they let JJ rewrite Michael Arndt's script.

[Sumac]

Ruin Johnson is an egotistical freak.
Can't wait to see some allegations against him, like it has happens with other "brave and stunning" leftists.

Originally Posted by member_removed

I think the rot started when they let JJ rewrite Michael Arndt's script.

The rot had started when they decided to remake OT story.
It doomed DT to be derivative and boring piece of crap.

I don't think Alien is a good example. It accidentally ended up with a something resembling a coherent arc, but otherwise is a mess.

SW, by its very nature, should be more coherent from the onset, since its basically one big story divided into chapters.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't say this often but... man... this really makes me want to punch Rian in the mouth. Badly.

https://cosmicbook.news/star-wars-ri...9anyqUdC7rAzls

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't say this often but... man... this really makes me want to punch Rian in the mouth. Badly.

https://cosmicbook.news/star-wars-ri...9anyqUdC7rAzls

Ruin being a retard is nothing new - he might be a talented director, but piece of **** in any other respect.