What REAL Proof do they actually have on Trump?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Even dumb rats are smart enough to jump off a sinking ship, and the Democratic Party is sinking for sure.

With Fetterman’s victory in Pennsylvania, now I know that there are even dumber humans who would rather sink with the ship.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

With Fetterman victory’s in Pennsylvania, now I know that there are even dumber humans who would rather sink with the ship.

There can be no other way to look at that victory as blind ideology at play. Not logic and not reason. The guy isn't a functioning human being.

[Jester]

Because Dr Oz was so much better a choice...

[ChosenOne]

Fetterman moonlights as a mafia enforcer and/or nightclub bouncer. Change my mind.

Originally Posted by Jester

Because Dr Oz was so much better a choice...
https://media.tenor.com/QwcxGNHGU_8A...Ib3dxPe31ZiT2d

You're right. Who in their right mind would vote on an academic and surgeon over the missing link? Oh, wait.

[Leo656]

Jester with the Common Sense.

Oz is a repeatedly-proven scam artist and that news is almost 15 years old. He is BARELY a "doctor" of ANYTHING and true medical professionals have been begging him to shut up and go away for years. He's literally a snake oil salesman.

"That's fine, I trust him." Lunacy. Madness. "I'm fine if a guy is a con artist as long as he's also against all the same things I am." It's like when a guy cheats on his wife, marries his mistress and then the mistress thinks he won't cheat on her too. Delusional.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

With Fetterman’s victory in Pennsylvania, now I know that there are even dumber humans who would rather sink with the ship.

No The Dumber Humans live in Georgia the ones who said hey lets re-elect that crazy Q-anon Cavewoman Majorie Taylor Greene to another term in office

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

No The Dumber Humans live in Georgia the ones who said hey lets re-elect that crazy Q-anon Cavewoman Majorie Taylor Greene to another term in office

Which is more absurd: electing someone who holds some conspiracy theories or electing Sloth from the Goonies?

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Which is more absurd: electing someone who holds some conspiracy theories or electing Sloth from the Goonies?

Dems may hate the Hendersons, but at least they have Harry.

[Leo656]

The person who repeatedly pushes Lies as Truth is the worse one, was that a rhetorical question?

She's clearly just trying to get Trump's attention so he picks her to be his running mate. Because THAT'S what we need: Someone who makes Palin look stable, one heartbeat away from the nuclear football.

Big Picture, people. Never ignore the Big Picture. Greene cares for no one but herself and if it isn't obvious, Look Closer.

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

crazy Q-anon Cavewoman

She do got that Cro-Magnon forehead, tho.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Jester

I'm so sick of the US versus them mentality. All it does is dehumanize whoever is on the opposite side of you politically. The Dems are subhuman groomers. The Republicans are fascists. This is why I have started voting third party since 2016 when I couldn't pull the lever for Trump no matter how much the other Republicans wanted me to. We need a strong third party in this country to try and maybe develop a coalition government where somebody has to compromise. One party getting all they want and then getting voted out and the other part of getting what they want is just making the Divide worse. I love how many people on the Republican side are calling Liz Cheney a RINO. Freaking Liz Cheney the daughter of Dick Cheney. She's a RINO because she doesn't follow trumpism. Has her politics changed? No she just doesn't like Trump or at the very least can see that he can be detrimental to not just the country but the Republican Party.

I agree with most of this. The PRoblem with a third party is simple. How long until THAT party looses it's principles, and now we've got a BIGGER mess on our hands, with THREE useless parties that only look out for themselves?

Personally, I think Trump was a good president. his only problem was that he was overly boisterous, and dind't know when to shut up and take some tact. I think Destantis is the perfect replacement, without the ego, personally. as the Dems have gotten SO crazy and insane over Trump (TDS is real, look it up ) that they'd never work with him on anything. and quite frankly, it's getting to a point where they might never work with ANY republican on anything with how programmed they are.

I don't see all dems as evil... just the extreme SJW left that is evil. I also don't see the Make America Great Again group as evil. we really do need to restore her to her former pre 2012 ness.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Leo656

She do got that Cro-Magnon forehead, tho.

ya she should be stuffed in a Museum in the Prehistoric section not holding political office

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Leo656

The person who repeatedly pushes Lies as Truth is the worse one, was that a rhetorical question?

She's clearly just trying to get Trump's attention so he picks her to be his running mate. Because THAT'S what we need: Someone who makes Palin look stable, one heartbeat away from the nuclear football.

Big Picture, people. Never ignore the Big Picture. Greene cares for no one but herself and if it isn't obvious, Look Closer.



She do got that Cro-Magnon forehead, tho.

I know who AOC is. there is enough of her idiocy on parade to prove it. I only know the NAME of MTG. I havn't heard of anything she's said or done to prove the idiot theory. but then, I don't follow things THAT closely, because following either side too closely leads to insanity.


I do agree, however. that IF she is as dumb as AOC, her as a running mate is the dumbest thing he's done so far. Desantis would be a much stronger choice.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Big Picture, people. Never ignore the Big Picture.

You’re right. The Big Picture is, people are willing to sacrifice everything, even their children, to make sure that Orange Man and his cronies never set foot in the White House again. The 2016 election broke a lot of brains beyond repair.

My parents were optimistic about last night, but I told them, “I’m not getting my hopes up. We’ll have to wait and see what happens.” Unfortunately I was right to be pessimistic.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

Personally, I think Trump was a good president. his only problem was that he was overly boisterous, and dind't know when to shut up and take some tact.

A flaw that’s looking downright quaint considering the current global juncture. Which he managed to stave off for four years, no less.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

we really do need to restore her to her former pre 2012 ness.

A case could be made for her pre-2001-ness.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I know who AOC is. there is enough of her idiocy on parade to prove it.

Don't forget the rest of the (Idiot) Squad.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I do agree, however. that IF she is as dumb as AOC, her as a running mate is the dumbest thing he's done so far. Desantis would be a much stronger choice.

DeSantis is clear President material, not VP. It's a pickle for sure, but the good kind. Better to have two strong leaders vying for power than settle for dregs like the Dems do.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

My parents were optimistic about last night, but I told them, “I’m not getting my hopes up. We’ll have to wait and see what happens.” Unfortunately I was right to be pessimistic.

Were you? Republicans took Congress, after all. A victory is a victory.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I agree with most of this. The PRoblem with a third party is simple. How long until THAT party looses it's principles, and now we've got a BIGGER mess on our hands, with THREE useless parties that only look out for themselves?

But that's just it, with 3 (or more) parties you have to reach across aisles for your majority to get things passed. No one has a majority to pass things unilaterally. You have to compromise to get things done.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

You’re right. The Big Picture is, people are willing to sacrifice everything, even their children, to make sure that Orange Man and his cronies never set foot in the White House again. The 2016 election broke a lot of brains beyond repair.

And the same could be said on the Republican side. Principles thrown aside for power.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

ya she should be stuffed in a Museum in the Prehistoric section not holding political office

We don't always see eye-to-eye but I wanna congratulate you on the funniest thing I've seen so far today.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I know who AOC is. there is enough of her idiocy on parade to prove it. I only know the NAME of MTG. I havn't heard of anything she's said or done to prove the idiot theory. but then, I don't follow things THAT closely, because following either side too closely leads to insanity.


I do agree, however. that IF she is as dumb as AOC, her as a running mate is the dumbest thing he's done so far. Desantis would be a much stronger choice.

She's like the Republican AOC, but slightly different. AOC is well-meaning but Brick Stupid. Greene is simply a Trashbag Person and does nothing to hide it. If I had a gun to my head, I'd be forced to pick Stupid over Evil, and I f*cking hate AOC. But at least she isn't actively trying to hurt people on purpose, she's just a clueless moron who THINKS her dumb ideas are helpful when they're not. Greene actively wants to ruin peoples' lives for not praying to the right God.

Greene has spoken loudly about how "America should be a Christian Nationalist Country" where only Christians are allowed to hold office or positions of power. ANYONE who talks like that, you run away from. She's not as loud about it as that Broebart idiot, but they're in the same field.

None of this is "deep dive" sh*t, ten minutes on Yahoo News tells you everything you'd ever need to know about these scumbags. They don't hide who they are, they just rely on ignorant people not bothering to do research. "OH, they hate trans people? Good enough for me!" If every other thing they believe in is terrible, that should matter more. You can't rightly support someone who is completely terrible JUST because you agree with them on ONE thing.

Like AOC, for example. I agree with her that given the state of the world, NOBODY should be having kids, period. But that doesn't mean I'd vote for her just because we have that one thing in common, she's a complete idiot except for that. But at least her idiocy comes from a place of Ignorance, not Malice. That matters.

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

You’re right. The Big Picture is, people are willing to sacrifice everything, even their children, to make sure that Orange Man and his cronies never set foot in the White House again.

"Sacrificing their children"? Please explain.

Trump had a swing, people are right to not want him to get another one, for a very important reason. He had the moral and civic duty to tell those supporters of his who ARE racist, bigoted, homophobic, and just plain evil people, that he wanted NOTHING to do with them. That's what a strong leader is supposed to do. Not curry favor with Actual F*cking Nazis just because you need their votes. And he's STILL doing it.

When you have people in Wisconsin getting arrested for bringing a f*cking KNIFE to the polling place and screaming "STOP THE COUNT!", as happened yesterday, if you are in a position of power you have a responsibility to the greater good to make it clear in NO uncertain terms that you DO NOT WANT those people to support you.

Instead, he curries favor. No, obviously most Republicans aren't bigots and Nazis BUT MANY OF THEM ARE. And instead of telling them to kill themselves, AS HE SHOULD, Trump emboldens them and riles them up. He thinks it's funny. It's not funny. It's dangerous. And he doesn't care. He doesn't care WHO gets threatened, hurt, or even killed, as long as he gets to sit in his high chair again.

He abdicated his responsibilities as a leader to instead be a Twitter Troll. That's a scumbag. It was funny at one point. Things have gone too far. Nobody with common sense should want him anywhere but back here in NJ running more casinos into bankruptcy. That's all he's good for.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Leo656

"Sacrificing their children"? Please explain.

I’ll give you an example:

Remember the Tara Reade allegation? So many MeToo women came rushing to Biden’s defense, sacrificing their own principles to ensure his victory over Trump. One woman even said, “Biden could r*pe my daughter and I would still pick him over Trump.” That made me sick to my stomach.

These people hate Trump so much that no matter how much the Democrats screw up, as long as the opposing candidate is a Trump supporter or Trump himself, they’ll vote blue no matter who. It’s like the very mention of Trump’s name makes them foam at the mouth. They even blamed the Will Smith Oscars slap on Trump, for Pete’s sake!

During the recall election in California, the media accused Larry Elder of being the “blackface of white supremacy” because of his connections to Trump. One white girl in a gorilla mask threw eggs at him as he walked down the street. That is racism. Yet the media was completely silent. Furthermore, California voted to keep that white tyrant Newsom in office. Why? Because Orange Man bad.

[Leo656]

Ah. Well yeah, those are crazy people. Bags of mixed nuts have shells of many colors; ergo, Red Nuts vs. Blue Nuts, still nuts either way.

The guy downstairs has TDS, I've ranted about him many times. I know it's real, I live with it.

The ROOT CAUSE of these things is an unwavering belief that "My Team" is Good and "Your Team" is Evil.

When you don't have a "team" you simply call out Evil as it presents itself and all affiliations be damned. I often feel like the only true "centrist" here, although Jester seems very like-minded in theory even if we disagree on particulars from time to time. Everyone else seems far too entrenched in politics as a team sport, which is the wrong way to be. Labels Divide People.

The Righties AND the Lefties here all give me a ton of sh*t, which tells me I'm far better at seeing the forest for the trees than most people. They all act shocked when I call Their Side out for stupid or inhuman behavior, despite me saying constantly that I don't pick sides on purpose. Y'all sound exactly like football fans whenever you rant about some of this stuff, and my opinion of football fans should also be well-known by now so that's not an endorsement, it's an indictment.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Greene has spoken loudly about how "America should be a Christian Nationalist Country" where only Christians are allowed to hold office or positions of power. ANYONE who talks like that, you run away from. She's not as loud about it as that Broebart idiot, but they're in the same field.

And again which group of Christians get to have power in Green and Broebart's Christian Nation? Probably not Black Christians who tend to vote Democrat.

Another reason I tend to go third party anymore is because neither major party should hold complete control over the Christian Base. Neither political party completely aligns with what it means to be to be a Christian and to say otherwise is short-sighted.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Jester

And again which group of Christians get to have power in Green and Broebart's Christian Nation? Probably not Black Christians who tend to vote Democrat.

Another reason I tend to go third party anymore is because neither major party should hold complete control over the Christian Base. Neither political party completely aligns with what it means to be to be a Christian and to say otherwise is short-sighted.

Do your hands ever hurt from banging these nails so hard, dude? Spot-on.

Like, my family's Catholic. I'm very clearly "lapsed", but some of them are VERY devout. But they'd be trash-tier citizens if Greene and Broebart's America ever came to pass. "Convert, or get out." That's what they've said SHOULD happen. Sounds like Middle Eastern Sh*thole Doctrine, to me. We are supposed to be better that that, not the same.

Like, I'm white, but I'm Irish-Catholic so if the "Christian Nazis" had their way they'd be tryin'a string me up, too, especially with all the Jewish, black and gay friends I have. I could NEVER be on the same side as anyone who either supports or shrugs off Those People. They hate me, they'd see me dead, why would I EVER turn a blind eye to them? Because we're likewise a bit "ick" about guys in dresses? That doesn't make them my allies, no f*cking WAY.

What we see more and more are Sheep voting for The Wolf, because they think the wolf won't one day come for Them. That has a way of turning sour for them very quickly, but by then it's too late. Look at 1940s Germany for proof. When it was "just" the Jews that were hated, "no big deal". Until it was Everyone Else, Too. And then it was too late.

I'd not see that happen again, anywhere.

Think that's a "hysterical, overreacting" position? Think it can't happen again, whether Here nor There?

Dig this.

That was mid-1970s Iran, before the Islamic Revolution. Things sure change FAST, don't they?

"Evil never sleeps. It Waits". Which means when people start talking persecution you don't give them a single f*cking inch, EVER. You don't say "They won't do it," you don't say "Nobody will let them", you don't say "That issue can wait until tomorrow, we have to take care of these trannies and these gas prices first." Tyranny and oppression are Ultimate Evil, and they don't arrive wearing horns and carrying pitchforks, they come disguised as One Of You, pretending to have your best interests at heart.

Even that book the Christians love so much warns us of that. Figures they're so picky-choosy about what they take from it they miss the message when it's happening right in front of them.