Do you think IDW TMNT will reach issue 200?

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't want to weigh in on this much and I have no axe to grind with you... but I feel like I should point out the obvious that straight white guys (I don't see how the shaven head is relevant either way, or inherently some kind of "white power" angle if that's what you're suggesting being probably the 0.0001% reason dudes shave their heads) are probably the top perpetrators of what Leo is more or less suggesting, beaten out only by straight white women. You know, from this weird sense that they need to speak out for and defend and get justice for all of the groups/people/races that somehow can't do so for themselves and need their help, plus with the caveat of getting high fives from the similarly minded to reinforce that they're fighting the good fight. Most other ethnicities don't care about this stuff aside from loud pockets here or there.

No the hair comment was to point out that I don't have a man-bun or any other idiotic hairstyle in a similar vein; truth be told I really can't stand those things.
My point was already made by him once again failing to back up his claim (that Sophie is a liar) with any kind of evidence because naturally he's doesn't have any such evidence.
Also for what it's worth, although we occasionally disagree about things, I do generally respect you and your perspectives.

[Leo656]

Oh, God, that's so much worse. "Straight white dudes" unashamedly defending Campbell's stuff? Wow, that's just plain not acceptable.

Like, I'm also a straight white dude but I also can't imagine how it feels to hate my own dick as much as it seems you do. Hopefully I never will.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Like, I'm also a straight white dude but I also can't imagine how it feels to hate my own dick as much as it seems you do. Hopefully I never will.

That's a damn shame, you're missing out on a great career at IDW.

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Oh, God, that's so much worse. "Straight white dudes" unashamedly defending Campbell's stuff? Wow, that's just plain not acceptable.

Like, I'm also a straight white dude but I also can't imagine how it feels to hate my own dick as much as it seems you do. Hopefully I never will.

Says the thug with a 'masculinity' more fragile than an egg-shell whose clearly terrified that the 'Women and Gays' are taking over. S/

Newsflash, it's the 21st century not the dark ages anymore.

[neatoman]

I don't understand why it would be so difficult to analyse the content in an attempt to determine whether or not it's likely someone else was involved with the writing, why resort to calling people conspiracy theorists or throw out other insults here? Even if you liked 101-124, it's undeniable that 125 is written very differently. It seems really strange that someone would write 23 issues straight in a very distinct way, then after one issue deliberately written with without text, we get something that almost entirely discards the structure, priorities and stylistic choices from the first 23.

And someone else being involved with the writing isn't the same thing as Sophie having no involvement at all. Writing a synopsis that someone else scripts or scripting parts of the issue is still writing, but it can still be very noticeable.

It's also not like having access to facts is all that it comes down to for this sort of thing. There are people who specialise in identifying someone's work by analysing the contents. It's how people try to determine if a painting is the genuine work of the artist it's alleged to have been painted by, or if it is a forgery by a copycat. In terms of writing, even though the writers of the old testament are unknown, scholars have still been able to determine it was written by at least five people and where it was edited. It's not a perfect method and it is always better to have hard evidence, but it is still a useful tool.

If we were to apply such a method to this forum, if we were to take quotes from the top five posters here, someone would probably be able to connect the right quote to the correct poster very accurately by simply analysing how these people write.

[ChosenOne]

A person's writing style is as unique to them as their fingerprints. Anyone with even the slightest understanding or practice in writing knows it.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't know Sophie well, but I know enough to know she "gets" and digs down in the trenches gritty TMNT. Maybe it isn't her favorite thing (or maybe it is and she was encouraged to go a certain direction? I have no idea) but she's never had a problem putting that stuff out there. And quite well.

And she's been here since Tales V2. This isn't, like, someone entering things out of left field. And point is, yes, I'd bet she could and would be able to write accordingly if that's what was going on. She can shift gears. We've seen this already.

[neatoman]

We're not talking about "grit" here, we're talking about how this thing is structured. If all there was to this was the introduction of a creepy surgeon and some agitated frogs but everything else was consistent with Sophie's writing, I probably wouldn't question it. The problem is that the pacing, the dialogue, compression level, etc. Are very different from the previous issues in this run.

[AquaParade]

When did Sophie Campbell get a reputation for lying?

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

When did Sophie Campbell get a reputation for lying?

She didn't, 656 was just throwing out baseless accusations as usual.

[ChosenOne]

Entering some serious Jim Jones territory here. Sheesh, just propose to her already...

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

When did Sophie Campbell get a reputation for lying?

You want the most obvious straight up lie?

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

You want the most obvious straight up lie?

He probably means besides calling herself a writer.

[frank_one]

Let's stop here, guys. There's no reason to be so disrespectful. I don't like what Sophie's doing with the series, actually I hate it, but that's it. I still respect her as a person and as an artist.
And, yeah, why calling her a liar? Where are all these lies you are talking about?

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

He probably means besides calling herself a writer.

More obvious than that...

[hypered1]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

More obvious than that...

DON'T go there

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by frank_one

I still respect her as a person and as an artist.

As a person and an artist, as in illustrator? Absolutely. As a so-called writer? Should've thought of that before doing what she did to TMNT.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by hypered1

DON'T go there

Why not? What're you gonna do about it?

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

At the very least it will be cancelled and relaunched with a new #1 long before then. They haven't done that trick yet, but it's still in their back pocket if need be.

Assuming IDW keeps the license (far from guaranteed at this point), I expect we'll see the renumbering stunt, but... when we get the 200 equivalent issue, they will pull the old Marvel trick from earlier in this millennium and temporary revert the book to its old numbering, just so they can promote the milestone 200th issue.... probably to be followed by another #1 a few months later.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

You want the most obvious straight up lie?

I get it. I don't get why it bothers anyone though. Literally has zero effect on your life.

Either way, I really dig Sophie's art and while I'm not into the story she's crafted over the last 25 issues, I still respect her. And I bet I'd be reading the book, flaws and all, if she were actually allowed to cut loose a bit.