Is Dogpound the new Hun?

*Xav* · 12-13-2012, 12:51 AM

Despite the face that Dogpound is well a dog, I fine them to be quite similar. They both are large brutes who fight mainly with their fists. They both are extremely loyal to Shredder. They both order around the Purple Dragons, and they both mistreat Baxter Stockman. In fact I found their personalities to be similar too. The way he treats Xever is similar to how Hun treated Baxter in the 2k3 toon.

*zkarlette* · 12-13-2012, 02:38 AM

You are right, there are lots of similarities, but I hope that the actual Hun shows up at some point later on.

*Candy Kappa* · 12-13-2012, 02:47 AM

Dogpound is the new powerhouse among Shredder's ranks, so yes.

Avatar Yuffie · 12-13-2012, 06:23 AM

Dogpound looks like an expy of Hun and Rahzar.

*Jephael* · 12-13-2012, 06:41 AM

Man, I'm having de-ja-vue. Back in '03, everyone kept saying "Is Hun the new Rocksteady?"

Vivi · 12-13-2012, 06:49 AM

They are both hulkingly large, fairly intelligent, and could be considered the right-hand man of their respective Shredders. So in many ways, yes.

I wonder if Bradford being part dog has made him more loyal than he originally was, however.

*CyberCubed* · 12-13-2012, 07:23 AM

Every series Shredder has two similar henchmen:

Bebop and Rocksteady

Rahzar and Tokka

Hun and Baxter

Dogpound and Xever

But yeah, Dogpound is VERY similar to Hun.

*pannoni1* · 12-13-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivi

They are both hulkingly large, fairly intelligent, and could be considered the right-hand man of their respective Shredders. So in many ways, yes.

I wonder if Bradford being part dog has made him more loyal than he originally was, however.

Its still early with regards to how is mind will progress, but it had a negative impact on Rocksteady, who was originally one tough gang member. Hun was never mutated, so he always remained loyal to the Shredder from beginning to end. Its also weird though that Rhinos are large mammals yet it didn't make Rocksteady any bigger and even though the biggest dogs are much smaller than humans, it made Chris Bradford much larger, so perhaps the larger size had a positive impact on his mutation with regards to his ability. Fishface/Xever though seems to be much worse off than Bebop, not even moving from Shredder's hideout since his mutation. This Nick series of henchmen is the first in which there is a "Strong-Weak" bond, where Dogpound will frequently be put down by Fishface that could limit his potential. At least the "Weak-Weak" bond that was Rocksteady & Bebop was stable that just didn't work well against the Turtles and caused the series to be slapsticky, whereas Tokka & Rahzar (who in this case were animals turned mutants which universally has a positive power upgrade) along with Hun & either Baxter or Bishop were "Strong-strong" bonds that contributed to the deep action of Movie II and the 4kids series.

*Xav* · 12-13-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1

Hun was never mutated, so he always remained loyal to the Shredder from beginning to end.

Hun was mutated in Turtles Forever and he wasn't loyal to Cyber Shredder.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-13-2012, 02:31 PM

Nope. He's the new 'Bebop and/or Rocksteady'. It's just taking a few episodes for Xever to be able to get back on his side. Hun never had a sidekick/partner like Bebop and Rocksteady or Dogpound and Fishface.

Ninjawolf · 12-13-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Nope. He's the new 'Bebop and/or Rocksteady'. It's just taking a few episodes for Xever to be able to get back on his side. Hun never had a sidekick/partner like Bebop and Rocksteady or Dogpound and Fishface.

Maybe he takes bits from both Hun and Rocksteady? he's the big enforcer and he's part of a duo (wonder how he and Karai get along? I'm really looking forward to the Karai episode I really want to see if she's indeed Miwa)

*CyberCubed* · 12-13-2012, 04:06 PM

Karai probably isn't Miwa. Why would she change her name?

Ninjawolf · 12-13-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Karai probably isn't Miwa. Why would she change her name?

Karai could be her Code-name? or Shredder named her Karai when he adopted her? Like Shredder's real name is Oroku Saki

*ToTheNines* · 12-13-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Karai probably isn't Miwa. Why would she change her name?

Lmao... She was a baby dude.

Bossa Nova · 12-13-2012, 05:08 PM

I sure hope so. With Dogpound around it would honestly feel a little redundant to bring Hun in, I don't really see him adding a whole lot that Dogpound isn't perfectly capable of encompassing himself. I don't see why Shredder would need two huge, hulking, stupidly loyal henchmen to play around with, especially since Dogpound's already ten times more badass and threatening than Hun ever was. I know I sound like I hated Hun, which I didn't, he was alright and all for what role he had to fulfill, but I can't see Dogpound being okay with rubbing elbows with someone new, he's already pissy enough with Xever as it is.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-13-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjawolf

Karai could be her Code-name? or Shredder named her Karai when he adopted her? Like Shredder's real name is Oroku Saki

Except Karai isn't a codename. That's like saying someone is using Tom or Mary as their codename.

So if Bradford is the new Hun... what does that make Xever? I say it's too soon to say anything until Xever rejoins his side once he gets the robot legs.

**Jester** · 12-13-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

So if Bradford is the new Hun... what does that make Xever?

He's the new Bebop. Lanky black street punk who mutates into an animal form with a purple Mohawk.

*Ninjinister* · 12-13-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Lmao... She was a baby dude.

So she changed her gender as well?

**Jester** · 12-13-2012, 05:59 PM

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So she changed her gender as well?

*CyberCubed* · 12-13-2012, 07:30 PM

Chris Bradford in human form was definitely the new Hun who was the new Tatsu.

For some reason Shredder always needs some super loyal right-hand man in every incarnation. Until Karai shows up anyway.

12-13-2012, 12:51 AM	#1
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,977	Is Dogpound the new Hun? Despite the face that Dogpound is well a dog, I fine them to be quite similar. They both are large brutes who fight mainly with their fists. They both are extremely loyal to Shredder. They both order around the Purple Dragons, and they both mistreat Baxter Stockman. In fact I found their personalities to be similar too. The way he treats Xever is similar to how Hun treated Baxter in the 2k3 toon. Last edited by Xav; 12-13-2012 at 01:52 AM.

12-13-2012, 02:38 AM	#2
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	You are right, there are lots of similarities, but I hope that the actual Hun shows up at some point later on. __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

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12-13-2012, 06:23 AM	#4
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	Dogpound looks like an expy of Hun and Rahzar. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

12-13-2012, 06:41 AM	#5
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,088	Man, I'm having de-ja-vue. Back in '03, everyone kept saying "Is Hun the new Rocksteady?" __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988 www.jephael.com

12-13-2012, 06:49 AM	#6
Vivi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ninja HQ, Moon Posts: 1,074	They are both hulkingly large, fairly intelligent, and could be considered the right-hand man of their respective Shredders. So in many ways, yes. I wonder if Bradford being part dog has made him more loyal than he originally was, however.

12-13-2012, 07:23 AM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	Every series Shredder has two similar henchmen: Bebop and Rocksteady Rahzar and Tokka Hun and Baxter Dogpound and Xever But yeah, Dogpound is VERY similar to Hun.

12-13-2012, 02:31 PM	#10
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 14,014	Nope. He's the new 'Bebop and/or Rocksteady'. It's just taking a few episodes for Xever to be able to get back on his side. Hun never had a sidekick/partner like Bebop and Rocksteady or Dogpound and Fishface. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

12-13-2012, 04:06 PM	#12
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	Karai probably isn't Miwa. Why would she change her name?

12-13-2012, 05:08 PM	#15
Bossa Nova Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States, California Posts: 592	I sure hope so. With Dogpound around it would honestly feel a little redundant to bring Hun in, I don't really see him adding a whole lot that Dogpound isn't perfectly capable of encompassing himself. I don't see why Shredder would need two huge, hulking, stupidly loyal henchmen to play around with, especially since Dogpound's already ten times more badass and threatening than Hun ever was. I know I sound like I hated Hun, which I didn't, he was alright and all for what role he had to fulfill, but I can't see Dogpound being okay with rubbing elbows with someone new, he's already pissy enough with Xever as it is. __________________ Nova's TMNT Fanfics

12-13-2012, 07:30 PM	#20
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	Chris Bradford in human form was definitely the new Hun who was the new Tatsu. For some reason Shredder always needs some super loyal right-hand man in every incarnation. Until Karai shows up anyway.