What about, you know, profit? How is a third movie profitable?

[neatoman]

Alright, so TMNT 2014 barely made enough movie to justify a sequel in the first place. And OotS probably didn't even break even. Now they greenlit another movie two years later? Granted, I didn't expect TMNT movie projects were gonna be dead forever, but two years after the last piece of crap? This might not really be a sequel and the same exact people might not be involved, but it's still the same production house that failed the last two times. Why give the franchise and the same producers another chance at this?

Is this license maintenance like with Fant4stic? Is there a contract loophole? Something's fishy about all of this.

This is not another thread about how we feel, it's about trying to figure out the logic behind this. Because to me, none of this makes sense, no producer in their right mind would do this.

[DevilSpooky]

There's nothing fishy about this, and there's nothing going on like with Fantastic 4 and Fox, Viacom owns the IP and they don't need to create movies to keep the franchise, it's theirs to do as they please.

They just payed for the IP and they want to capitalize on it, that's it, they're just hoping the new show is enough to create interest on the franchise and want to create a new movie series to go with it, that's it, going with Paramount again is just to cut costs, staying in-house will always be cheaper and will maximize revenue because there's less people involved to split the profits.

[Powder]

The timing doesn't seem all that off to me. As Rob Paulsen has long said, the TMNT are "evergreen", after all.

That said, the fact it's Platinum Dunes (& the same 3 producers, no less) does make me think it might be a "Better use this than lose this" situation.

[IndigoErth]

However, both were made before the arrival of chairman Jim Gianopulos, who has made it a priority to clean up the studio’s slate and refocus its franchises. Insiders are hoping to bring a patina of quality as they relaunch the brand.

I figured it's in large part an effort by that guy I guess wanting to straighten out the direction of PD, the quality it puts out, and... I guess wants TMNT to be one of its tent poles despite the studio flubbing up the last attempts.

I mean, it sucks that they're still stuck in the hands of PD, but until the time that someone else is allowed to handle them, I guess I'm at least glad the Turtles are still seen as a viable property for film rather than be blamed for the last two missing the mark, like I was afraid might happen.



But with what's going on with some companies lately, if we're lucky maybe someone else will one day buy Platinum Dunes and get the contracts.

[TurtleWA]

The only thing I can think of is that some king of payoff still makes the film production worth it. Now I could only make wild guesses as what kind of payoff that is.

Could be one thing or several things. It keeps TMNT in the spot light even if in a negative way. Like advertising and such. Brand exposure and whatnot. Also maybe more profit in video sales or TV deals when it’s on TV and Netflix. Also the toys and general merchandise.

I’m just thinking that a profit in box office apparently seems like a non factor. But it’s still must be worth investing in somehow.

[dragonside]

if anything, there's a lot of superhero movies coming out...

I can't see how this third movie could be profitable.

A reboot might stir enough interest for a break even scenario.

A third movie based on the original designs would flop hard. So I guess its as good a time as ever to revitalize the movie side.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by DevilSpooky

There's nothing fishy about this, and there's nothing going on like with Fantastic 4 and Fox, Viacom owns the IP and they don't need to create movies to keep the franchise, it's theirs to do as they please.

Yeah but Platinum Dunes doesn't, what if they were contracted for three movies and are allowed to make a third one as long as it's in x amount of time?

[Wildcat]

It was just announced. It’ll be at least another 2 years to be made and released.

Assuming it starts production in 2019 it’ll be 4 years since Oots (at the soonest). That’s a significant amount of time to have passed to let people get interested again and forget the first 2.

Yes it’s very surprising that it’s PD again but having different people behind it and it being an actual new movie not connected to the last makes it believable.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

It was just announced. It’ll be at least another 2 years to be made and released.

Assuming it starts production in 2019 it’ll be 4 years since Oots (at the soonest). That’s a significant amount of time to have passed to let people get interested again and forget the first 2.

Yes it’s very surprising that it’s PD again but having different people behind it and it being an actual new movie not connected to the last makes it believable.

Hopefully this also means Michael Bay can keep his stinking paws off of it and it won't have a portal in the sky scene

[Andrew NDB]

0 chance it will be connected to the last two movies. This is not "a third movie."