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Looks like Shredder has given up on Karai ever seeing him as a father again | 4 | 6.78% | |
Rockwell: (sarcastically) Egad, I could barely defend myself | 4 | 6.78% | |
Mikey: My dudes, my bros, my Turts...it's that time again. Our series is winding down | 7 | 11.86% | |
Splinter: Leadership doesn't come from your head, it comes from your heart | 8 | 13.56% | |
Splinter...T.T | 14 | 23.73% | |
Casey: (Flips garbage truck lever) Oops | 22 | 37.29% | |
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02-20-2017, 03:21 AM | #121 |
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I won't lie, at Splinter's death, I was actually sobbing. Clutching my Mikey plushie and sobbing.
I'd need to watch it again to be sure, but my immediate reaction is that it's an amazing episode. Mikey calling him 'papa' just got me right in the feels. |
02-20-2017, 03:29 AM | #122 | |
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02-20-2017, 03:38 AM | #123 | |
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this time that he died now just felt like old hat to me. and in 'Earth's Last Stand' when Shredder comes in for the kill, how is it Splinter is able to stop him this time but not last time? it's not like Leo left him a note warning him to be careful. i still enjoy the show, but many elements of the writing are just handled poorly. if they are going to include grown up themes, they need to rethink things better. it just feels like cheap audience manipulation to me.
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02-20-2017, 05:20 AM | #124 |
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I can't wait to see the season finally.
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02-20-2017, 07:03 AM | #125 | |
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Then later in the final battle Leo yells out when Splinter is about to be killed and that helps prevent his death. This time they are implying that his death is permanent. |
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02-20-2017, 09:08 AM | #126 |
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So Bradford is dead? I don't see him coming back, not with the camera showing him struggling helplessly as Leatherhead took him down to the bottom of the river, Leatherhead returning without him, and Mikey going "Dudes we beat him!" Seems like too much in the way of establishing shots for him to have survived this one.
The show has really kinda tossed Bradford to the wayside since Season 1 anyway. What a waste of Clancy Brown. I'm only slightly surprised they paid so little attention to killing him off, because Foot Clan members besides Shredder, Karai, and Tigerclaw have rarely had that much focus or development to begin with. And he's become a joke in combat anyway, suffering from old toy syndrome or something. It was embarrassing that he would go down in one hit from Leo in The Invasion among other instances. But man. Bradford has been my favorite original character of the show besides Tigerclaw, and his Rahzar design is easily my favorite of this entire series. Sad to see him go. As for Splinter, yeah, it loses some of its' gravitas this time because we've had like three "deaths" before now. Being thrown down the drain in The Invasion, literally dying then coming back with the Triceratons, and the whole "we die together" thing that I didn't buy for one second. Was it still sad to see it go down this time? For sure. The Turtles carrying him off, Mikey calling him "Papa". And yeah, he's certainly dead, I don't think you can survive being stabbed and then thrown off of a high building. The 90's movie reference was great and chilling. And like before, Shredder survived this crushing, though at least this Shredder is a powerful mutant. |
02-20-2017, 09:10 AM | #127 |
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Hey people who live in the UK did they keep the slight trail of blood as Splinter fell from the building?
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"The roof top of the building in which they first fought Shredder". That's the way that Nickelodeon looks at TMNT. That they first fought Shredder in the Fred Wolf series. I mean obviously they know that's not he case, but as far as they're concerned, it might as well be. |
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02-20-2017, 10:38 AM | #130 | ||
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Good episode despite what just happened. Liking the 1990 movie references. Quote:
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02-20-2017, 01:29 PM | #131 | |
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02-20-2017, 02:54 PM | #132 |
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Maybe my imagination then but as he fell I could've sworn I saw a slight trail?
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02-20-2017, 06:15 PM | #133 |
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Super Shredder kind of ruins it. At the end of Season 3, Saki kills Splinter out of spiteful malice. But then that's reversed and Saki is left inexplicably on life support by a fairly tame battle with Splinter.
Pump him full of mutagen, and Shredder can be replaced with any of the big bad unbeatable mutants. There's really no difference between Super Shredder and Snakeweed by this point. Season 3 was a good Villainous Breakdown. The world is ending, but I still need this victory. It made the space arc worth it just to deny Saki his selfishness. But Season 4 was a bad breakdown. I know Ciro's trying to Throwback Thursday literally anything else in the Turtleverse and beyond, but it would have been a lot more satisfying if Oroku Saki had been fully cognizant of the irredeemable monster he had become, as opposed to just being a Monster of the Week rampage with a notable fatality. In the process, Ciro somehow succeeding in making a Super Shredder that's worse than the one that had to follow Vanilla Ice. And Secret of the Ooze set a terribly low bar to begin with... |
02-20-2017, 07:02 PM | #134 |
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Shredder was hit with numerous hits to vital pressure points. That was why he was laid up.
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02-20-2017, 07:10 PM | #135 | |
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Also, how is this Super Shredder worse than the SOTO one? Here, he actually wins fights, he's actually powerful, he's actually a SUPER Shredder. |
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02-20-2017, 10:37 PM | #136 |
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My thoughts on this episode
https://youtu.be/l7zvUGKvl5s
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02-20-2017, 10:54 PM | #137 |
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Okay, I am finally ready to give my thoughts on this episode, which includes what I liked, disliked, etc.
So, this I’d known about since I stepped foot into the Korean dread. My curiosity got the better of me. So, bottom line, I knew that Splinter was going to die, but I didn’t know exactly how. I only knew the “why”…Shredder is nuts. See kids, this is why heroin laced with liquid steroid solution is bad. “Drugs are bad mmmkay.” lol Kudos to April for nipping her crystal meth addiction in the bud. The fight scenes in this episode were pretty good. I like how intense they all were. I still have this feeling that Rahzar was killed off. If the show have no qualms over killing out a supporting character that was a good guy, nothing wrong with them killing out an actual enemy, right? Like I mentioned earlier, he was caught offguard and was dragged to the bottom of the river, sea, or whatever. I liked how everyone was in this episode, especially Casey. Last episode was good for him too. He definitely felt like his season 2 self, like when he was first brought into the series. Now, for the random. The giant chicken thing that the kid morphed into that looked like Carter’s stupid-looking (imo) mutation totally caught me off guard. I was literally laughing my head off saying, “No they didn’t just go there. Carter reference? Really?” I then thought, “This is why I like this show. I love how they have throwbacks and nods to previous things, not just stuff that’s part of the Turtles franchise, but just stuff in general.” Also, that part when Casey landed by the garbage truck, I was saying, “Okay Nick, you have it, you better fricken use it!” They delivered. Casey’s “Oops” was the icing on the cake, but the fact that in the movie it was more comedic and here, Casey was legit upset and cold with it was…kind of surprising…yet not. He killed Splinter, Casey was angry about it. It felt almost passive aggressive like. It was like, “Sorry, not sorry.” It was nice seeing the Mutanimals again and it was finally nice to see where Karai and Shinigami had been hiding out. I will say this…I’ve never seen the Bronx so quiet and empty. lol Shredder busting in there saying that Karai will die in the same way as her mother was super harsh. The fact that Shredder now is so strong that you can’t even penetrate his heart, I can’t help but wonder how the turtles are going to take him out. If only Shredder had said that when he was in stage 1 of his mutation, she would’ve taken him out easily. I wonder how much time is going to pass between this episode and the next episode. Oh when Karai was underneath the rubble, I was wondering, “Will Leo be the one to save her?” since it’s an onrunning gag. Hm, think next ep they’ll randomly have Karai, when finally fully coming to, say something like, “If you’d come like 5 minutes earlier…” to try and lighten a heavy mood before slipping back into reality. Oh man, how is Karai going to take Splinter’s death. Man, I could see her wanting to really go after Shredder. Well, that aside, good thing Leo was able to do CPR…through that metal vest of hers. lol The heartbreaking part was when Leo screamed. As I said before, I knew Splinter was going to get killed, but nothing else other than that, but the cut seemed a bit odd there. Seems that scream should’ve come after April and Raph’s scene because from that angle, I doubt Leo would’ve been able to see the stabbing, even with the scope, unless he was seeing Shredder climbing back up…but I doubt he would’ve shouted “no” with such anguish. Meh, guess it doesn’t matter. That entire part was heart-wrenching. I’m not the top to cry at stuff that’s fictional…okay, I’m not the type to cry much at all, and it wasn’t the actual killing that almost got to me…it was everyone’s reactions to it, especially Mikey’s “Papa”. I almost cried. Wow. Even though I wanted Splinter killed out, I just wasn’t expecting it to be that intense. Okay, not much else I can say that others haven’t….except that I now know why they let Splinter get drunk last episode. I t was a last hurrah. lol Now what I had problem with...the pacing slightly. It was too fast-paced. It felt like parts were missing from the episode. It’s the same complaint I had with Tale of the Yokai, only what felt missing there ruined the episode for me…that wasn’t the case here. They had so many characters in this episode, they didn’t really focus on what their whereabouts were. For example, Rockwell and Fishface were left unaccounted for. So yeah, can’t wait for season 5. I wonder if this means the characters will force mature…but I mainly mean this for characters like Mikey and Casey. They have their moments and imo, Mikey is loads better than he was back in season 1. Seems for this season, they toned Mikey down quite a bit and have gradually over time. I know I’m weird, but out of the four, I’m the most curious about Mikey after all this. Okay I’ll stop rambling. This post has gone on long enough. |
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02-21-2017, 12:04 AM | #139 |
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Movie 2 Super Shredder had a lot of boards and "all that stuff on top" according to Raphael. I wouldn't be surprised if it broke his neck.
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02-21-2017, 09:19 AM | #140 |
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Nope, nothing.
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