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Old 09-22-2022, 04:39 PM   #81
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Yeah. Black April only exists in a thing that nobody's watched. So they're not committed yet.
What if someone had watched it though?
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:40 PM   #82
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What if someone had watched it though?
Not enough did to move the meter.
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What if someone had watched it though?
If they watched it on purpose, they have much bigger problems.

If they watched it while tied up and at gunpoint, they ALSO have much bigger problems.
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:42 PM   #84
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I know I've read it stated as "definitive" by someone who would know but when and where I couldn't tell ya.

But c'mon you know that's what it was, gimme a break. And given how the FW characters were written I can't say as I blame them. But I also maintain they just could have written it better, but HAH, "FW TMNT", expecting quality writing was asking for way too much.
That makes the most sense and what I always assumed until I read about the whole Doc Brown thing. Speaking of which for anyone who is interested:



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Yes, she's very hot and avoided doing gangbang scenes her whole career so I can safely fantasise about having sex with her without it ever entering my head I'd have to take off her adult diaper first.
I've seen her take 13 inches violently in the Exit Door and laugh about it, you still might have to adjust those fantasies accordingly Champ.

Either way, STILL the best Catwoman.
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That makes the most sense and what I always assumed until I read about the whole Doc Brown thing. Speaking of which for anyone who is interested
Peter Laird has also confirmed that they sent all the concept sketches of Baxter to Playmates/FW, including the ones where he was depicted as a white man.
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Which, you know, does lend some credibility that they simply didn't know what the character looked like. Then again, issue 2 already existed at that point and thus the final design was already out there for anyone to see, so if that's the case they didn't even bother reading the comic for inspiration.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:19 PM   #87
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Well one thing for sure, OT Baxter was definitely not a head taller than April.
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Well one thing for sure, OT Baxter was definitely not a head taller than April.
Yeah... Hey, wait a minute. In the comics, Baxter used the MOUSERs to steal stuff and April came into contact with the turtles because he forced her to flee into the sewers when she found out. In the show, April was reporting on stolen objects and forced to flee into the sewer because the one who orchestrated it wanted her silenced. Later on in the same season, Shredder hires Baxter to give him access to the MOUSERs. And Splinter is also kidnapped and the Turtles need to rescue him from a high tech alien hideout, not in the same episode but it does happen in the one before...

... I can see a somewhat more comic accurate story here... Was the reporter thing just done to make sure there were five scripts and a reason to introduce Bebop and Rocksteady? I have a similar theory about Bebop and Rocksteady, Shredder steals two whole animals from the zoo but once Bebop and Rocksteady are mutated into their forms they vanish, so I'm wondering if the intention was to just have Shredder mutate the zoo animals but having the gang assault and the "recruitment" scenes added a few pages to the script. As would the Channel 6 scenes.

OK hear me out, so what if an early version of the show went down something like this:
  1. Episode 1. April (unwittingly) and Baxter have been hired to work for Shredder and when April gets suspicious, Shredder sends MOUSERs to get rid of her. We then get the sewer scene from the comic instead of the gang scene. The rest of the episode plays out much like the third episode.
  2. Episode 2. This one plays out much like the first two episodes, minus the intro. Here we get Shredder sending out "stronger" robots to replace the MOUSERs, with Bebop and Rocksteady being new experiments from stolen zoo animals.
  3. Episode 3. Essentially a combination of episode four and five, in which the rock soldiers attack earth while Shredder tried to demuatate the Turtles, and otherwise playing out similar with the possible exception of Krang growing into a giant.

This version of the plot makes more sense to me and we already know episode 5 was partially recycled from some Transformers episodes. So is it possible that the show was rewritten to be two episodes longer?
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:27 AM   #89
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IDK I think it was more like 'if you want to be approved for a cartoon show, you'll need a toyline. We made Bebop and Rocksteady in the toyline, put em in the cartoons."

I do wonder how Eastman and Laird felt when they first saw the toy designs. Now the turtles made sense, different colors and the belt buckles to tell em apart and to make it easier for kids to have parents buy them essentially the same character 4 times. They still had the pupil-less eyes and short bandanas and angry look of the Mirage Turtles at least.

But yellow-jumpsuit redhead news report April? Purple robot mummy type Foot Soldiers with an actual foot as a logo on their foreheads? Shirtless Shredder with a cape? Bebop and Rocksteady? A Turtle Blimp and a Turtle Van?

Imagine if Todd McFarlane gave another toyline Spawn rather than create his own and they made him green and blue because the suits felt it was more marketable? And replace the cape with batwings?
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No, I mean more like their origin, not the characters themselves. What I'm basically asking is if Bebop and Rocksteady were initially going to be the Zoo animals themselves, rather a pair of human thugs who were mutated into their forms.
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