TMNT: The Cowabunga Collection Announced - Page 5

*oldmanwinters* · 03-10-2022, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp

The new game Shredders Revenge if taking place in the original games continuity it would be TMNT 6 since Hyperstone Heist is 5.

I think one of the beta roms for Super Nintendo Tournament Fighters titled the game as "TMNT 5."

*Andrew NDB* · 03-10-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I think one of the beta roms for Super Nintendo Tournament Fighters titled the game as "TMNT 5."

Hyperstone Heist SHOULD be 5. Though most people at the time definitely called Tournament Fighters TMNT 5.

Hyperstone Heist was just considered "the Sega one," by those who even knew it existed. Which weren't many.

~~Sumac~~ · 03-10-2022, 11:54 AM

I am not sure how Hyperstone Heist can be considered separate game. I am always treated it as a port of Turtles in Time, since it reuses crapton of assets from it.

If anything Tournament Fighters can be considered some kind of sequels to beat'em ups.

*neatoman* · 03-10-2022, 01:04 PM

I went ahead an checked if anything was excluding (barring Tiger Electronics and crap like that of course). Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Manhattan Missions and the 2003 based games are the only Konami games excluded.

I'm guessing the main reason 2003 games are excluded is because most of them were probably around 1GB, thus too hefty. And throwing in the one GBA game might seem a little too off brand.

~~AquaParade~~ · 03-10-2022, 01:05 PM

I loved the art style of Tournament Fighters. The box-art drew me in so hard, when I was a kid. In-game, the models sort of resembled the Henson turtles - at least in the SNES version. It had good music and solid controls. They weren't afraid to play with the lore. For instance, Shredder was "Cyber Shredder", if I remember correctly.

*neatoman* · 03-10-2022, 01:13 PM

I went ahead an checked if anything was excluding (barring Tiger Electronics and crap like that of course). Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Manhattan Missions and the 2003 based games are the only Konami games excluded.

I'm guessing the main reason 2003 games are excluded is because most of them were probably around 1GB, thus too hefty. And throwing in the one GBA game might seem a little too off brand.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-10-2022, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

I'm guessing the main reason 2003 games are excluded is because most of them were probably around 1GB, thus too hefty. And throwing in the one GBA game might seem a little too off brand.

More than enough room, considering the main 13 games only take up maybe 20 megs in total. Probably less.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-10-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

More than enough room, considering the main 13 games only take up maybe 20 megs in total. Probably less.

With emulation, it will probably be closer to 1-1.5 GB. That would put it in line with The Konami Anniversary Collections for Contra and Castlevania. Those also included digital "art books" as a bonus feature.

The "Namco Museum Archives" for Switch ended up being over 60 MB per "volume," and those are just nicely emulated early NES games, fairly bare-bones of bonus content.

I seem to remember most of the PC ports of the 4Kids-era TMNT games being between 500-600 MBs (I think some of them shipped on a standard single CD disk).

*frank_one* · 03-10-2022, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

And throwing in the one GBA game might seem a little too off brand.

Two GBA games were made by Konami. I guess games based on the 4kids series are not considered classics enough.

*Coola Yagami* · 03-10-2022, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frank_one

Two GBA games were made by Konami.

He means in terms of them being related to 2K3 and not the 80s series. All the games in the collection are so far related to the 80s cartoon, the 80s toyline and the 90s live action movies.

~~AquaParade~~ · 03-10-2022, 02:01 PM

The reason the 2k3 games aren't included is because this is already a pretty big collection and the 2k3 games aren't as well remembered. I'd love to play them again, but these earlier games are known as classics.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-10-2022, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

With emulation, it will probably be closer to 1-1.5 GB.

Maybe with their fancy 4K swirling energy backgrounds behind the letterbox, not the emulators themselves. NES, SNES, Genesis and Gameboy are super easy to emulate and I don't think any one of them has ever had an emulator larger than 2 or 3 megs for PC, if that. And those are nice emulators, where you can even plug in Game Genie codes.

*neatoman* · 03-10-2022, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

More than enough room, considering the main 13 games only take up maybe 20 megs in total. Probably less.

So... Emulation/porting problems then? The closer a system gets to the modern era, emulation seems to be trickier (or at least as far as companies care to make, hobbyists seem to weirdly enough have a better grasp on how to make a decent emulator). The Gamecube emulator on 3D Allstars renders a few things that are meant to be invisible in Sunshine, and that GTA compilation is notorious.

As for Konami in particular, the GBA Castlevanias could probably have been included in the Anniversary collection even more easily than the 2003 TMNT games for this, yet they still got their own collection instead.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-10-2022, 04:12 PM

I imagine the rewind feature so many retro games feature today also requires a decent chunk of memory. Then again… even TF on Sega had an instant replay feature!

*CyberCubed* · 03-10-2022, 04:59 PM

It would have been nice to see the 2D GBA and DS 2003 TMNT games, I can understand not wanting to include the console versions. But maybe someday if we get a 2k3 collection.

For those who don't know there were two 2k3 games on GBA both which were great, and then one for the DS which was the third one. Those were all great games. And then Ubisoft made the 2007 movie game for the GBA that's good.

Those are pretty much the only other good 2D games left out of the collection.

~~Sumac~~ · 03-10-2022, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

For instance, Shredder was "Cyber Shredder", if I remember correctly.

Which is completely nothingburger, since him being "cyber" is never reflected in any way shape or form.

*CyberCubed* · 03-10-2022, 05:58 PM

The NES Tournament Fighters is such a hidden gem. There aren't many fighters on the NES, but in 1993 Konami managed to put out a pretty good fighter where each character has two special moves and a regular moveset.

If some of you only played the SNES verison you're in for a treat

*oldmanwinters* · 03-10-2022, 06:06 PM

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you're in for a treat

So hang onto your seat, get ready for adventure and remarkable feats!

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*Leo656* · 03-10-2022, 08:16 PM

Every single time I see any praise whatsoever for Battle Nexus, I have to wonder what f*cking game those people played, or if maybe TMNT games are all the person ever played and so they just don't know any better. Because that game is f*cking HORRIBLE. Easily one of the worst games I've played in my entire life, not a single redeeming factor to it. I'm way more forgiving in general than most people when it comes to video games, but that thing is a piece of sh*t from A to Z. Insultingly bad. Some things aren't opinion. It's a sh*t game.

Yet I see a decent amount of praise for it, for some reason. And I'm forced to believe that these people either only play TMNT games and therefore their standards are terrible, OR they're smoking crack.

*CyberCubed* · 03-10-2022, 09:06 PM

All the Ubisoft TMNT games will never get re-released either, the only really good one is the GBA one based on the 2007 movie though.

So the console movie games, the DS one, Turtles Smash-Up on Wii, and the Turtles in Time remake from 2009 are all never going to come out again. After that we have some games based on the Nickleodeon cartoon on the 3DS but they're nothing good, and of course the recent IDW TMNT inspired game on PS4.

03-10-2022, 04:12 PM	#94
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03-10-2022, 08:16 PM	#99
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	Every single time I see any praise whatsoever for Battle Nexus, I have to wonder what fcking game those people played, or if maybe TMNT games are all the person ever played and so they just don't know any better. Because that game is fcking HORRIBLE. Easily one of the worst games I've played in my entire life, not a single redeeming factor to it. I'm way more forgiving in general than most people when it comes to video games, but that thing is a piece of sht from A to Z. Insultingly bad. Some things aren't opinion. It's a sht game. Yet I see a decent amount of praise for it, for some reason. And I'm forced to believe that these people either only play TMNT games and therefore their standards are terrible, OR they're smoking crack. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

03-10-2022, 11:54 AM	#83
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	I am not sure how Hyperstone Heist can be considered separate game. I am always treated it as a port of Turtles in Time, since it reuses crapton of assets from it. If anything Tournament Fighters can be considered some kind of sequels to beat'em ups.

03-10-2022, 01:05 PM	#85
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I loved the art style of Tournament Fighters. The box-art drew me in so hard, when I was a kid. In-game, the models sort of resembled the Henson turtles - at least in the SNES version. It had good music and solid controls. They weren't afraid to play with the lore. For instance, Shredder was "Cyber Shredder", if I remember correctly.

03-10-2022, 02:01 PM	#91
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	The reason the 2k3 games aren't included is because this is already a pretty big collection and the 2k3 games aren't as well remembered. I'd love to play them again, but these earlier games are known as classics.

03-10-2022, 04:59 PM	#95
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	It would have been nice to see the 2D GBA and DS 2003 TMNT games, I can understand not wanting to include the console versions. But maybe someday if we get a 2k3 collection. For those who don't know there were two 2k3 games on GBA both which were great, and then one for the DS which was the third one. Those were all great games. And then Ubisoft made the 2007 movie game for the GBA that's good. Those are pretty much the only other good 2D games left out of the collection.

03-10-2022, 05:58 PM	#97
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	The NES Tournament Fighters is such a hidden gem. There aren't many fighters on the NES, but in 1993 Konami managed to put out a pretty good fighter where each character has two special moves and a regular moveset. If some of you only played the SNES verison you're in for a treat

03-10-2022, 09:06 PM	#100
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	All the Ubisoft TMNT games will never get re-released either, the only really good one is the GBA one based on the 2007 movie though. So the console movie games, the DS one, Turtles Smash-Up on Wii, and the Turtles in Time remake from 2009 are all never going to come out again. After that we have some games based on the Nickleodeon cartoon on the 3DS but they're nothing good, and of course the recent IDW TMNT inspired game on PS4.