Oh no... maybe never any "Future War" now

*Andrew NDB* · 01-09-2013, 12:39 PM

Not even if IDW greenlights it.

According to Steve Murphy he can't find any of his scripts, and he has nothing saved digitally. He still has a couple of boxes left to go through but he's already checked the ones "where they should've been."

As for -- you know, worst case scenario -- recreating the scripts or synopsis from scratch, he says:

"Oh man, I have very little memory of the plot let alone the script. I couldn't even list all the secondary characters... I don't even remember how it ends!"

*ToTheNines* · 01-09-2013, 12:46 PM

Somehow, I don't believe him.

*DrSpengler* · 01-09-2013, 01:21 PM

Maybe fans bugging him about it for 15 years have finally broken him and now he's just trying to end discussion about it forever.

Or maybe he really did lose them. I dunno.

Does anyone know if Allan ever drew more than just the 5 covers and first 6 pages of #71? If there's any other vintage art that hasn't been released yet, *that's* what I'd love to see.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-09-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Does anyone know if Allan ever drew more than just the 5 covers and first 6 pages of #71? If there's any other vintage art that hasn't been released yet, *that's* what I'd love to see.

He didn't, nope.

*frank_one* · 01-09-2013, 01:44 PM

What events is this story supposed to cover?

*Andrew NDB* · 01-09-2013, 01:58 PM

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What events is this story supposed to cover?

No one really knows. Some kind of time-traveling tale with the present and Future Archie Turtles and Shredder. We also know that Null is not involved.

*DrSpengler* · 01-09-2013, 02:11 PM

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He didn't, nope.

Well damn.

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-09-2013, 05:27 PM

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Somehow, I don't believe him.

Same here. The man occasionally comments about about it on Peter's blog in the comment section so it seems he has the desire and I assume the notes/script. He may not have files kept as extensive as Peter,but its got to be there somewhere. Heck, we Archie Adventure enthusiast can help. Yeah,seriously. I'm in.

I guess you was asked on part of my bringing it up with the rule of 18 being Mirage exclusive or Peter only exclusive?

I've been waiting for this since 2nd grade so like its title I will wait FOREVER if I have to white haired and retired if it will take that long.

*CyberCubed* · 01-09-2013, 05:42 PM

Why can't he just make a new story then? It's obvious what we would get now wouldn't be the same as back in 1996 anyway.

Oh well, just another reason to consider, "Year of the Turtle" as Archie's canon ending.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-09-2013, 05:44 PM

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Why can't he just make a new story then? It's obvious what we would get now wouldn't be the same as back in 1996 anyway.

That's the thing... he did. He couldn't remember what he was writing in 1996/wanted to go a different direction in the present anyway, so he started over. And now he's forgotten that, too.

*CyberCubed* · 01-09-2013, 05:46 PM

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That's the thing... he did. He couldn't remember what he was writing in 1996/wanted to go a different direction in the present anyway, so he started over. And now he's forgotten that, too.

Sounds silly.

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-09-2013, 05:59 PM

Well,we can have a third version as long as its complete and brings a sense of finale. I don't care how far of it is as long it comes from his brain and he puts in on paper if only notes like Peter mentioned for his completion of TMNT vol.4 and post the notes online. I'm cool with that. Time will tell...

The next time I log on the net I think I will head over to Murphy's blog and ask about posting the notes if he finds them or if he scripts it a third time if he would be willing to post it.

Scumbug and Wrym had been crystalized by Toxem in TMNTA#52. I was surprised to see him list them in the character set list for the storyarc. Did he ever say how those two were worked in? I wrote them off as dead way back.

*CyberCubed* · 01-09-2013, 06:41 PM

Unless IDW greenlits it I really don't care if Murphy writes it or not. His heart is not in the project and he seems very bored of the idea and just wants it to be forgotten.

This is not like Volume 4 where it was PL's personal project and he wants to conclude it even if it takes another 10 years.

Murphy did not create the Turtles and thus doesn't have the same level of attachment to it as PL would so its a non-entity to him.

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-09-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Unless IDW greenlits it I really don't care if Murphy writes it or not. His heart is not in the project and he seems very bored of the idea and just wants it to be forgotten.

This is not like Volume 4 where it was PL's personal project and he wants to conclude it even if it takes another 10 years.

Murphy did not create the Turtles and thus doesn't have the same level of attachment to it as PL would so its a non-entity to him.

Really? I never got that impression of him. Granted my only interaction was periodic blogspot comments on his personal blog and going back and forth with him a couple of times in Peter's TMNT blog when he was nudging Peter about Forever War.

*oldmanwinters* · 01-09-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Not even if IDW greenlights it.

According to Steve Murphy he can't find any of his scripts, and he has nothing saved digitally. He still has a couple of boxes left to go through but he's already checked the ones "where they should've been."

Re-write!

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

As for -- you know, worst case scenario -- recreating the scripts or synopsis from scratch, he says:

"Oh man, I have very little memory of the plot let alone the script. I couldn't even list all the secondary characters... I don't even remember how it ends!"

Aw... dang.

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Maybe fans bugging him about it for 15 years have finally broken him and now he's just trying to end discussion about it forever.

Or maybe he really did lose them. I dunno.

Does anyone know if Allan ever drew more than just the 5 covers and first 6 pages of #71? If there's any other vintage art that hasn't been released yet, *that's* what I'd love to see.

*Sigh* I love Murphy and respect the fact that he probably busted his hump over the TMNT longer and harder than anyone but maybe Peter Laird himself.

But a large part of me suspects the same thing as Spengs.

It would have been great for The Dean to give us fans one more ride on the TMNTA Train before it chugs off into the night.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 01-09-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Scumbug and Wrym had been crystalized by Toxem in TMNTA#52. I was surprised to see him list them in the character set list for the storyarc. Did he ever say how those two were worked in? I wrote them off as dead way back.

I am thinking that either Armaggon or Shredder went back in time to before they were crystalized and brought them to the future in order to fight the turtles.

*Powder* · 01-09-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

It would have been great for The Dean to give us fans one more ride on the TMNTA Train before it chugs off into the night.

Never say never.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 01-09-2013, 07:28 PM

I think more than likely this will be one that Andrew winds up doing for us.

*MikeandRaph87* · 01-09-2013, 07:32 PM

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I think more than likely this will be one that Andrew winds up doing for us.

Or a smorgasbord of TMNT elites putting aside personal perferences like Andrew,Adam,myself,a couple of others as well on board.Sure. Though,like I said above "lets wait and see". I will do all I can do to get something I have wanted to see since I was an 8 year old finished.

*CyberCubed* · 01-09-2013, 08:17 PM

I think its ridiculous for Murphy to say, "Oh I don't remember how it ends!"

Um, YOU'RE the writer! Just write a new ending!

I don't understand what the problem is here. What is so hard about starting from scratch when you barely wrote any completed scripts in the first place?

This whole thing just sounds fishy.

01-09-2013, 12:39 PM	#1
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,253	Oh no... maybe never any "Future War" now Not even if IDW greenlights it. According to Steve Murphy he can't find any of his scripts, and he has nothing saved digitally. He still has a couple of boxes left to go through but he's already checked the ones "where they should've been." As for -- you know, worst case scenario -- recreating the scripts or synopsis from scratch, he says: "Oh man, I have very little memory of the plot let alone the script. I couldn't even list all the secondary characters... I don't even remember how it ends!" __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

01-09-2013, 05:59 PM	#12
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,131	Well,we can have a third version as long as its complete and brings a sense of finale. I don't care how far of it is as long it comes from his brain and he puts in on paper if only notes like Peter mentioned for his completion of TMNT vol.4 and post the notes online. I'm cool with that. Time will tell... The next time I log on the net I think I will head over to Murphy's blog and ask about posting the notes if he finds them or if he scripts it a third time if he would be willing to post it. Scumbug and Wrym had been crystalized by Toxem in TMNTA#52. I was surprised to see him list them in the character set list for the storyarc. Did he ever say how those two were worked in? I wrote them off as dead way back. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

01-09-2013, 12:46 PM	#2
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	Somehow, I don't believe him.

01-09-2013, 01:21 PM	#3
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,830	Maybe fans bugging him about it for 15 years have finally broken him and now he's just trying to end discussion about it forever. Or maybe he really did lose them. I dunno. Does anyone know if Allan ever drew more than just the 5 covers and first 6 pages of #71? If there's any other vintage art that hasn't been released yet, that's what I'd love to see.

01-09-2013, 01:44 PM	#5
frank_one Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 1,984	What events is this story supposed to cover?

01-09-2013, 05:42 PM	#9
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	Why can't he just make a new story then? It's obvious what we would get now wouldn't be the same as back in 1996 anyway. Oh well, just another reason to consider, "Year of the Turtle" as Archie's canon ending.

01-09-2013, 06:41 PM	#13
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	Unless IDW greenlits it I really don't care if Murphy writes it or not. His heart is not in the project and he seems very bored of the idea and just wants it to be forgotten. This is not like Volume 4 where it was PL's personal project and he wants to conclude it even if it takes another 10 years. Murphy did not create the Turtles and thus doesn't have the same level of attachment to it as PL would so its a non-entity to him.

01-09-2013, 08:17 PM	#20
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	I think its ridiculous for Murphy to say, "Oh I don't remember how it ends!" Um, YOU'RE the writer! Just write a new ending! I don't understand what the problem is here. What is so hard about starting from scratch when you barely wrote any completed scripts in the first place? This whole thing just sounds fishy.