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Old 05-14-2023, 10:41 AM   #1
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So what keeps the forum going?

I'm kinda confused what keeps this place running year after year, since I don't believe this is a free message board. I've seen several forums die in my day since the owner either lost interest or it wasn't worth it for them to keep paying for it month after month.

Like, we already know Shredder is long gone and Krang only appears once every third blue moon, but I mean.... are they somehow still footing the bill?

Did Krang pay some sort of 20-year or so payment in advance so the forum would continue to go even after they've all but lost interest in it?
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Old 05-14-2023, 11:29 AM   #2
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I'm assuming the cost to keep this place running is extremely minimal, or else it would have been shut down by now. The forums of course are far less active than they used to be since all the older fans are now 40+ year olds and moved on with their lives or lost interest in Turtles.

And besides that there isn't much to talk about right now since the current state of the franchise is in a lull. Most of the activity ended when the 2012 cartoon finale happened.
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Old 05-14-2023, 11:48 AM   #3
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These boards run on vBulletin and they charge a monthly fee. My understanding is that you can have a 25 gb plan for $19.95 a month and it goes up from there.

I have a website myself and before that have done online publishing via PDF going back to 2002, so I always have appreciation for guys that absorb the costs of fansites like this one where other people surely benefit from it's existence more than the person who created it.

And the other side of it is that forums and websites were typically set up by people who worked in computers or programming to begin with, so those guys commonly made enough money at their day job to support the monthly fees without an issue. I stumbled through the setup of my own sites myself using templates and a meager understanding of HTML without a programming background, so I have real respect for guys with those skills who clearly set this stuff up back when it was all budding and new.
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Old 05-14-2023, 02:45 PM   #4
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I own and run two vBulletin boards. There is a monthly fee you can pay to run them or just a flat fee to have them forever, but your license eventually expires and you can't update (like what happened here). Beyond that you just have to pay for the domain which is around $10-20 a month depending.
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Old 05-14-2023, 04:29 PM   #5
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I imagine vbulletin as a whole will shut down eventually, not many people are hosting their own forums in 2023. When that happens we'll see the end of individual forums like this one. When all of fandom these days are on twitter, reddit and youtube, forums are basically a ghost town or a relic of 30-40+ year olds who visit from the early 2000's.
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Old 05-17-2023, 02:43 PM   #6
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I imagine vbulletin as a whole will shut down eventually, not many people are hosting their own forums in 2023. When that happens we'll see the end of individual forums like this one. When all of fandom these days are on twitter, reddit and youtube, forums are basically a ghost town or a relic of 30-40+ year olds who visit from the early 2000's.
It will all come around again. People will continue to migrate to social media platforms and eventually those will be gate kept or moderated through an extreme ideology (like what happened to Twitter before Musk cleaned house).

Once that happens the pendulum will swing back to privately held forums and groups and so on.

Capitalism is routinely the great equalizer - ever shifting and moving according to behavior changes and correction.
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Old 05-14-2023, 04:30 PM   #7
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone was footing the bill and this was one of multiple websites on his account...and just forgot we were still active here on the account.
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Old 05-14-2023, 05:04 PM   #8
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There's still plenty of company websites that use vBulletin as a message board or "community." It's just fallen out of popular use for fandoms.

Krang hasn't forgotten about anything. I'm sure he pays for the server space which is probably about $10 a month, pays for the domain name which is like $15 a year, and has to be at least peripherally aware of the board or new users wouldn't be coming in (he's the only one who can approve).
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Old 05-14-2023, 06:59 PM   #9
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Maybe this place is not as crowded as it was but I keep finding new threads and new posts everyday whenever I check it. That's all I need. A ghost town? A relic? I don't think so. I've seen places way more empty than this.
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Old 05-14-2023, 07:56 PM   #10
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The sole purpose of the forum may have died but the forum itself hasnt. Theres always something to talk about.
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Old 05-14-2023, 10:46 PM   #11
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Considering we now have threads asking if you believe in evolution of the human race, I think this forum has pretty much run its course.
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Old 05-15-2023, 02:27 AM   #12
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I only miss the creativity. And creative fan minds. The fan art and fanfic, however weird it may have been. I wish I could just say "oh, it's moved to this other social media thing" but it really hasn't. Maybe small bits. But not like it was. It's like a hole in people years ago is now filled by... other stuff. Other proclivities. A lot of them not great ones.
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Old 05-17-2023, 12:18 PM   #13
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There's more fan art than ever before, communities are thriving. The discussions, hardcore fans, projects are all shining more than ever. They just aren't using forums that's old tech only a niche few still use. Fandoms are just on Discord, Reddit and Twitter. This isn't something new, it's been discussed in other threads here at least 5 years ago, you might like an AM/FM radio but don't wonder why all the cool people are now listening to spotify.

Users that post here is out of habit and to debate politics since no one else likely wants to hear them rant for hours. It's definitely not for indepth TMNT discussion, the few users who register are usually trolls or banned accounts and the very very few new users see there's not much worthwhile and dont become new regulars. It's likely not too expensive for Krang to keep it running and he likes that he has a site that has users and has been active for 2 decades. If he cared more about the community he would've upgraded it, continued to be a part of the community. I mean he cares enough to pay the bill but not enough to invest time in it. Many forums that went offline could've kept with a very small user base like the technodrome has if the administrator had continued to pay the bill. I mean how many regular users does this forum have? Two dozen?

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Old 06-08-2023, 01:24 AM   #14
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Shredder is long gone and Krang only appears once every third blue moon
The turtles fought hard for getting rid of the menaces shredder and krang, so no complaining now please about here being a peaceful place
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Old 08-27-2023, 04:18 AM   #15
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It was already said if you're so "triggered" by politics don't enter the conversation. Not everyone agrees on everything and if your not intelligent enough to defend your views, that's on you. Bow out with grace, but the problem is the left can't. They have to state nonsensical statements that prove thier ineptitude to honestly debate facts. Tier 1 thinkers vs tier 2 thinkers.
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Old 08-27-2023, 11:40 AM   #16
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Gestapos, you want secrete police huh? Guess who else loved secrete police?
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Old 08-27-2023, 12:16 PM   #17
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Gestapos, you want secrete police huh? Guess who else loved secrete police?
Here we have the perfect example of how this starts to head downhill even though the rest of us are having a pretty civil conversation despite our clear differences in opinion.

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Old 08-27-2023, 12:24 PM   #18
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Krang's participation is already at the bare minimum so the fact they even keep the server on despite their low engagement is already a big win for everyone, since they could stop at any time. But it's already been here for over 20 years, why not 20 more.

By the way, let's not forget this forum does have SOME ads... so the small amount of ads probably easily pays for the costs, maybe even a lot more than we think.

I hope Krang can get the motivation to move the forum to an updated software at some point, give us some new features to play with.

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Old 12-29-2023, 03:02 PM   #19
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I guess he knows this place is visited daily by fans all over the world and so he keeps paying the fee so that we can be here discussing about him never showing up. He cares about us, is it so strange?
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Old 12-30-2023, 11:45 AM   #20
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I'm glad the forums are still around tbh.

Been in a few discord servers, but the more time I spend in them the more I realise that... well... let's just say they're not my crowd.

This feels a lot more like home tbh. And I could do a little more formum posting instead of chatting all the time.
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