Nick Fuentes & Kanye West

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Turo602

But Bros? I've seen the trailer to that movie at least 3 times this year when going to the theater and not once have I felt compelled to talk about it nor did I feel attacked in any kind of way by it. It's simply not for me.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I do agree with this 100%. This is 100% true.

On that note when is your next MOTU O video? I get a kick out of your MOTU O thrills.....

Working on it actually! My wife does the editing whenever she feels like so we are legit like 6 or 7 videos behind. I did a video on some Masters of WWE Universe figures like 4 months ago but she hasn't gotten to it yet. I nag her every day about it but she also edits the match videos for the shows I'm on so she's always kinda swamped. We'll get to it. I REALLY need her to get to the MOTU Origins and Masterverse stuff though because it's all in totes still in the package and I need to open it all ASAP before I drown in it.

People will be informed.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

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The "and" is that it is unhealthy to be SO obsessed with things that 1. You were never the audience for and 2. You never had any interest in seeing to begin with.

I know you're not big on therapy or counseling but ANY mental health professional would immediately tell you and several others here that your behavior is in fact deleterious to your own mental health.

To borrow a quote from myself, "Just SAYING 'I don't care' and then bitching a ton about a thing isn't how it works. You have to ACTUALLY Not Care and some of y'all care A LOT when you shouldn't."

"So many gay folks in movies and TV now!" is just this generation's "Can you believe they have to put colored folk in EVERY movie nowadays!" One would think we'd all be self-aware enough NOT to replicate the same behaviors we make fun of our grandparents for. Yet here we are.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Go the f*ck outside.

But I did! It was cold.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

The "and" is that it is unhealthy to be SO obsessed with things that 1. You were never the audience for and 2. You never had any interest in seeing to begin with.

I know you're not big on therapy or counseling but ANY mental health professional would immediately tell you and several others here that your behavior is in fact deleterious to your own mental health.

To borrow a quote from myself, "Just SAYING 'I don't care' and then bitching a ton about a thing isn't how it works. You have to ACTUALLY Not Care and some of y'all care A LOT when you shouldn't."

"So many gay folks in movies and TV now!" is just this generation's "Can you believe they have to put colored folk in EVERY movie nowadays!" One would think we'd all be self-aware enough NOT to replicate the same behaviors we make fun of our grandparents for. Yet here we are.

Wait wait. Hold on. THEY'RE PUTTING COLORED FOLK IN MOVIES NOWADAYS??????

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

The "and" is that it is unhealthy to be SO obsessed with things that 1. You were never the audience for and 2. You never had any interest in seeing to begin with.

People keep throwing around words like "obsessed" and "losing your mind over ____." Stop doing that. Is that what you guys do in the day to day? Because it's not what I do in the day to day. You and Turo are, like, obsessed with me being obsessed. And I'm not, remotely. Though you tell me which of the two behaviors sounds like the more unhealthy predilection.

I know you're not big on therapy or counseling but ANY mental health professional would immediately tell you and several others here that your behavior is in fact deleterious to your own mental health.

No offense -- and I'm not pointing any fingers -- but looking to any Technodrome members for medical or worse yet mental advice would probably be one of the biggest imaginable mistakes someone could make. I think it's pretty safe to wager.

[Turo602]

I've never once claimed you were obsessed. Yet you seem to be fighting against that narrative pretty hard for some odd reason. Like you know what you're doing looks bad and unhealthy, yet try to justify it with a "sh*t eating grin" like it makes the behavior more acceptable.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Turo602

I understand that, but that's a very different topic. I know certain talk is inevitable when it comes to various fandoms. I'm not talking about the Marvel threads, the Star Wars threads, and so on. I think it's fair to say a great many of us do indeed share an actual interest in those topics and of course, we're going to talk about the elephant in the room. But Bros? I've seen the trailer to that movie at least 3 times this year when going to the theater and not once have I felt compelled to talk about it nor did I feel attacked in any kind of way by it. It's simply not for me.

Okay, see I appreciate this response. It clarifies things for me - and in that clarification yeah I agree with you.

For example, when you were hashing it out with Andrew I wasn't clear that your point was on that movie, or even that your point was so specific to that example. I thought we were entering that "stop pushing back on woke $#!(" phase of a blanket statement.

But you know what? I hear you on your point specific to the "Bros" flick above. And in that regard I hear you even on how that could be a blanket example of "dude it's not for me, who cares about it to talk about it then". That's the truth, I hear you. But the discerning reader will also know that I don't really assault that stuff out of spite - I go in on the commentary when I link it to behavior or manipulation, etc.

But yeah. I do see your point. I asked for clarification man because many Dromers - especially those who ran to the Discord - they don't compute nuance, you know?

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Leo656

The "and" is that it is unhealthy to be SO obsessed with things that 1. You were never the audience for and 2. You never had any interest in seeing to begin with.

I know you're not big on therapy or counseling but ANY mental health professional would immediately tell you and several others here that your behavior is in fact deleterious to your own mental health.

To borrow a quote from myself, "Just SAYING 'I don't care' and then bitching a ton about a thing isn't how it works. You have to ACTUALLY Not Care and some of y'all care A LOT when you shouldn't."

"So many gay folks in movies and TV now!" is just this generation's "Can you believe they have to put colored folk in EVERY movie nowadays!" One would think we'd all be self-aware enough NOT to replicate the same behaviors we make fun of our grandparents for. Yet here we are.

this is just a blanket statement from someone who really doesn't care. But, for those of us who do, we want to preserve what works...Legends are around for a reason. They resonate with you no matter what background you are from.

A person from 200 years in the future could relate to our version of batman just as we did today. And if we travelled to the future, he should STILL be the same relatable character, albeit slightly adapted to fit the future. However, if the left destroys that narrative, because they are not creatives who can tell good stories, nor do they care too, those life lessons are gone and forgotten about because no one cares anymore. that's not good.

if you don't care, that's fine. your prerogative. if others care enough to try and preserve and fight for what they like, that's their prerogative . if we where all like you, the world would be a rather boring (or is it scary? ) place .

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

if others care enough to try and preserve and fight for what they like, that's their prerogative .

Go fight on Twitter then. That's where all the creators are at that will listen to the loud public opinion and shape their work around. Screaming into the void of a dead echo chamber forum literally accomplishes nothing.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Wait wait. Hold on. THEY'RE PUTTING COLORED FOLK IN MOVIES NOWADAYS??????

I forgot that the electricity in Mexico is spotty, senor.

[Leo656]

Andrew: Having gone through "the system" and learning to recognize my own bad behaviors is what makes it so easy to see them in others.

Saying "I'm NOT obsessed!" over and over isn't how it works. You ARE obsessed with "the woke agenda" because it is 99% of ALL you talk about here anymore. You start threads about stuff you were never gonna watch, you talk a ton about stuff you hate... That is textbook obsessive behavior. I'm telling you this in the hopes that you might take steps to recognize and correct. Insisting "But I'm NOT obsessed tho!" is no different from someone who can't stop coughing insisting they don't actually have a cold. Denial changes nothing. Sometimes we don't realize we're acting a certain way until we've been informed. Also, no person with an unhealthy obsession EVER admits to it because we all KNOW obsession is an unhealthy state of mind.

So, you've been informed. How you react is up to you. I must say, "No I'm not!" is disappointing. Evidence strongly suggests otherwise.

Vegeta: Nah, y'all mufukka's pathetic. Wailing impotently (f*cking auto-correct) every day as if you can punch out the ocean. You're officially the Old Men Yelling At Clouds you like to poke fun at.

The Batman of Today has next to nothing in common with 1939 Batman so your example in trying to illustrate your point is shoddy. Stuff lasts a while, sure. But it NEVER stays static, it always changes, and EVERY generation insists that the stuff coming out Now is garbage. Again, y'all are turning into Memes with this sh*t. It's sad. Be productive in life, don't waste it screaming about the Woke Bogeyman. You're allowed to abandon old hobbies and pursuits and take up new ones. It's part of life, just embrace it.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

But, for those of us who do, we want to preserve what works...Legends are around for a reason. They resonate with you no matter what background you are from.

Poetic!

Originally Posted by Turo602

Go fight on Twitter then. That's where all the creators are at that will listen to the loud public opinion and shape their work around. Screaming into the void of a dead echo chamber forum literally accomplishes nothing.

Eh, arguably we did accomplish something. Sure, the board is more of that echo-chamber that everyone loves to tagline nowadays, but before several of us pushed back hard it was an echo-chamber of misguided rage in support of public displays of destruction, and furthermore was this by a vocal and widely uninformed group. Many of those people were part of the new-hate - where they hated a hater but the catch was they were scarlet lettering anyone they hated as a hater in order to hate on them. So I don't miss those mf'ers at all.

I mean look at it now - several of us are pushing ideas back and forth in this thread like regular people, and even in disagreement and it's not even remotely the $#!(show that it was. Most of the worst offenders and tail-riders went over to discord. Just something to consider.

I mean the worst it got here in this convo was f'n Leo buggin' up as he bristled over with potential "mod ban power" for God's sake. I mean you guys are annoyed at pointing out woke $#!(, but for God's sake get a grip even on that - going on about woke $#!( is still a viable issue, whereas the old guard here were counter-culture @$$holes who just pushed general life-anger about anything they could call "bad" as if they were the educated elite or something. I'd call pushing back on them an accomplishment in terms of social groups.

[CyberCubed]

*reads the last several pages*

[Vegita-San]

the more people tell me not to do something, and use insults along with it, the more apt I am to continue doing it, because I know i'm on the right track.

As IMJ pointed out, this place was an echo chamber of left wing nonsense thanks to Voltron where people didn't talk as much. It's ALOT more open now.
that was worth fighting back for. I can come here now, and try and find out what's really going on in the world, as sad as that is considering that is supposed to be the MSM's job.. you can disagree, just don't be a jerk about it.

[neatoman]

Question, has anyone here ever actually cared about Kanye West or thought his work outweighed the fact that he's a walking meme? The first time I can even remember hearing about this guy doing anything was him interrupting Taylor Swift's award speech just to say Beyoncé should have won instead, him pulling a dick move like that reached my attention before any of his songs. To this day, I find South Park's "Gay Fish" song to be far better and more memorable than any real Kanye West song, including the one Gay Fish makes fun of.

[Andrew NDB]

No, never cared about Kanye. He had a couple of singles that were memorable before he became a walking mental health avatar. His latest behavior shouldn't be anything overly surprising. He should not be allowed to be on TV and should be getting help.

[Coola Yagami]

I'm still confused why he was all covered up on that podcast like he was PatBat Riddler or something.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Question, has anyone here ever actually cared about Kanye West or thought his work outweighed the fact that he's a walking meme?

Yeah. I mean - who are this guy's fans?

He's somehow managed to build a branded small-empire on his name and music, but I don't know that I could even tell you the name of a Kanye song or that I even remember hearing one on the radio. I have no idea what he thinks he's doing on this interview tour though. Maybe he thinks he's generating "press" but it really just looks like he's going around destroying everything he's built by sharing his observations and beliefs.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

No, never cared about Kanye. He had a couple of singles that were memorable before he became a walking mental health avatar. His latest behavior shouldn't be anything overly surprising. He should not be allowed to be on TV and should be getting help.

Right? But it's weird though because this clown has somehow managed to maneuver into millions of dollars, maneuver his name into branding, and even managed to maneuver into Kim Kardashian's bedroom. So even amidst the guy's folly, look at what he's pulled off. It's like... wtf?

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

this place was an echo chamber

Blinded by bias, huh? It's still one. And of nonsense.