Origami Foot Ninja, better or worse than Robotic Foot Ninja?

*neatoman* · 07-06-2018, 05:04 PM

Alright, is it a better idea or not? I'd still prefer humans, but at least I guess it's more fitting than the stupid robots...

*PApagreg* · 07-06-2018, 05:16 PM

I dont mind robots but Origami ninjas would be a nice change of pace.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-06-2018, 05:28 PM

Robotic Foot Soldiers aren't believable (at least in modern times). So not them.

*IndigoErth* · 07-06-2018, 05:56 PM

The use of robots gets a bit stale, but I can't say that I find the concept of magic paper any more interesting. Zzzz.

It's almost less impactful really if they're just bemagicked origami created on the fly. It doesn't really matter if the Turtles destroy them then as more can just be made in that fight or later.

At least destroying quite a few robots should have impacted Shredder's actual forces and mattered. (Even if the original series never quite acted like it did, at least not often.)

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 07-06-2018, 06:05 PM

Origami Ninjas aren't as iconic as the Robots (atleast not yet) but they're definetly much more creative

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-06-2018, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Origami Ninjas aren't as iconic as the Robots (atleast not yet) but they're definetly much more creative

Gotta agree with this.

Robot Foot soldiers are boring and were only ever a Saturday morning cartoon copout so the kiddie Turtles could use their weapons.

Origami Foot will serve the same purpose, but it's at least something more interesting.

*Xav* · 07-07-2018, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Robotic Foot Soldiers aren't believable (at least in modern times). So not them.

So how exactly are ninjas made of paper more believable than robots?

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 07-07-2018, 09:09 PM

Just thinking of how the Origami Ninjas can inflict paper cuts on the turtles is painful in of itself

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

If Shredder is angry as his paper ninjas and goes to destroy some of them in a fit of rage, which Shredder do they face? Does he do it himself, or throw them in the mechanical one sitting in his office?

Nice one

Leonardo2003 · 07-06-2018, 08:21 PM

For Rise, I think the oragami schtick works. I certainly prefer them to robots.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-06-2018, 08:46 PM

Think about the Mirage stories where we got to meet some Foot guys. Got to get in their heads. Flesh and blood, real living and breathing ninjas stalking and trying to kill the Turtles... that's interesting.

Robots? What's that? There's nothing there. Not at all.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-06-2018, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Think about the Mirage stories where we got to meet some Foot guys. Got to get in their heads. Flesh and blood, real living and breathing ninjas stalking and trying to kill the Turtles... that's interesting.

Robots? What's that? There's nothing there. Not at all.

Or even just getting to see the Turtles murdering their enemies. And realizing... um, this isn't heroic. This is clan warfare. Damn. Splinter is kind of an asshole for raising kids to carry on his blood feud.

But no, robots getting blowed the heck up for Saturday morning ratings? Sure, why not. Sell dem toys.

Ashwolf · 07-06-2018, 09:02 PM

sometimes the heroes have to get their hands dirty

*Utrommaniac* · 07-07-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Or even just getting to see the Turtles murdering their enemies. And realizing... um, this isn't heroic. This is clan warfare. Damn. Splinter is kind of an asshole for raising kids to carry on his blood feud.

I'm still not sure how much this is actually addressed when this is the case.

I do think paper fits the mood for this series better. And considering that Michelangelo is being depicted as more artistic than the others, his reaction to them would be something along the lines of

"Enemies made of paper, you say?"

*PApagreg* · 07-06-2018, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Think about the Mirage stories where we got to meet some Foot guys. Got to get in their heads. Flesh and blood, real living and breathing ninjas stalking and trying to kill the Turtles... that's interesting.

Robots? What's that? There's nothing there. Not at all.

Not really with the exception of that one issue where we follow the perspective of a foot ninja, the foot grunts are no different from robots. Most of them are just fodders for the turtles have to defeat.

*CyberCubed* · 07-06-2018, 11:07 PM

This is a question better asked when the show airs, after we see what the Origami ninja actually do.

*newfan* · 07-07-2018, 01:09 AM

Paper isn't appealing to me but as someone else pointed out, may suit this show.
Give me humans overall but so far as the turtles getting to slice something on a kids show then you can have the others, just not the whole clan maybe.

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-07-2018, 07:25 PM

What was the in-story explanation for the switch?

*CyberCubed* · 07-07-2018, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

What was the in-story explanation for the switch?

In story explanation for what? We know why they went with robot Foot in the Nick cartoon, they explain it.

As for Rise, we obviously won't know. Why are you asking questions about a show that hasn't aired yet?

*MikeandRaph87* · 07-09-2018, 09:55 AM

I am asking about the 2012 cartoon. I do not remember if it was addressed or not. I do not have inimate knowledge of this cartoon like I do the 1987 cartoon and 2003 cartoon.

*newfan* · 07-09-2018, 10:02 AM

Someone else might explain better but the Kraang basically supplied Shredder with robotic foot soldiers as a deadly weapon against the turtles, his human soldiers were diminishing in numbers, those who moved to NY (turtles taking them out) Have I missed anything, someone else?

Human soldiers came back when Karai started to take over the foot.

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IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 15,236	The use of robots gets a bit stale, but I can't say that I find the concept of magic paper any more interesting. Zzzz. It's almost less impactful really if they're just bemagicked origami created on the fly. It doesn't really matter if the Turtles destroy them then as more can just be made in that fight or later. At least destroying quite a few robots should have impacted Shredder's actual forces and mattered. (Even if the original series never quite acted like it did, at least not often.) Last edited by IndigoErth; 07-06-2018 at 06:02 PM.

07-06-2018, 08:46 PM	#10
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,253	Think about the Mirage stories where we got to meet some Foot guys. Got to get in their heads. Flesh and blood, real living and breathing ninjas stalking and trying to kill the Turtles... that's interesting. Robots? What's that? There's nothing there. Not at all. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

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Ashwolf Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 540	sometimes the heroes have to get their hands dirty __________________

07-07-2018, 07:25 PM	#17
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,131	What was the in-story explanation for the switch? __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

07-06-2018, 05:16 PM	#2
PApagreg Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,828	I dont mind robots but Origami ninjas would be a nice change of pace.

07-06-2018, 08:21 PM	#9
Leonardo2003 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: United States Posts: 178	For Rise, I think the oragami schtick works. I certainly prefer them to robots.

07-06-2018, 11:07 PM	#15
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	This is a question better asked when the show airs, after we see what the Origami ninja actually do.

07-07-2018, 01:09 AM	#16
newfan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,393	Paper isn't appealing to me but as someone else pointed out, may suit this show. Give me humans overall but so far as the turtles getting to slice something on a kids show then you can have the others, just not the whole clan maybe.

07-09-2018, 09:55 AM	#19
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,131	I am asking about the 2012 cartoon. I do not remember if it was addressed or not. I do not have inimate knowledge of this cartoon like I do the 1987 cartoon and 2003 cartoon. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

07-09-2018, 10:02 AM	#20
newfan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,393	Someone else might explain better but the Kraang basically supplied Shredder with robotic foot soldiers as a deadly weapon against the turtles, his human soldiers were diminishing in numbers, those who moved to NY (turtles taking them out) Have I missed anything, someone else? Human soldiers came back when Karai started to take over the foot. Last edited by newfan; 07-09-2018 at 10:20 AM.