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Old 01-13-2020, 08:56 PM   #1
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How Donatello disappeared in SAINW

I'm not clear on how Donatello disappeared in the world of "Same as it never was". At first it seems like it's the result of Don being sent into the future, but the other characters imply they don't know how he disappeared or think he just left at some point, so that can't really be the case since they knew about Drako/UN. So is the implaction that Don was instead sent to an AU in which he did leave for unspecified reasons?
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:12 AM   #2
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Good question. My guess is that it was suggesting that Donís disappearing from the present/reality was what made the others assume he left, though I could be way off.
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Old 01-15-2020, 04:47 PM   #3
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Itís never made clear, but I always assumed Don was sent to an alternate reality.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:46 AM   #4
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I posted a theory about that some time ago. In the first "Back to the Sewers" episode, the Turtles wind up in a time period that's a couple of years past their present year. In this future the Turtles witness Utrom Shredder, Tengu Shredder, and an Unknown version of the Shredder later dubbed the cyber Shredder brawling with each other.

Then this unknown man (Khan) who is fighting alongside one of the Shredders see the turtles and says "The Turtles? Here? Impossible, I destroyed you myself."

This is what I believed happened to Donnie: Although defeated at the end of the series, Cyber Shredder isnít destroyed. Instead he lays low and regains his strength and power leaving the Turtles and their companions to assume he is gone for good.

While on his downtime he develops a means to free Utrom Shredder and resurrect Tengu Shredder so they can use their combined might to take down the Turtles. Together they devise a plan to create a trap for the Turtle Brothers. When the trap is laid, Khan lures the Turtles into it and assumes that the Turtles have been destroyed once it is set off. Unbeknownst to him, Leo, Raph, and Mikey manage to break free from the trap thanks to Donnieís ingenuity. But, Donnie himself is unable to get out in time.

The Turtles, their friends and allies all look for him around the trap but donít find him. After at least a couple weeks of searching, everyone comes to the sad truth that Donnie didnít make it out of the trap alive. Everyone except Mikey who refuses to accept their brother is dead and doggedly feels like they should keep searching. Leo and Raph have conflicting views about dealing with their youngest brother. Raph wants to lay things down straight and just flat out get Mikey to realize Donnie is gone and he is not coming back, while Leo wants Mikey to accept their brothers loss in his own way. Splinter, however, states they should keep quiet because believing their brother is alive is giving Mikey comfort and they have no right to take that away from him. He also cryptically starts saying that Donatello will return to them one day.

In the midst of this, Leo and Raphís attitude towards one another is beginning to sour but they still try to deal with life as usual even though it's not the same without the four of them. April begins the groundwork for starting OíNeil tech. She tells the Turtles and Splinter that Donatello should also be given a role as one of the founders since a lot of the pursuits followed by the company were because of him. Mikey gets upset and demands everyone quit talking about Donnie like heís dead before he storms off. Splinter tells April to forgive Michelangelo for his behavior he still has not accepted that his brother is gone. But if Donatello could be there with them right then, he would certainly say he was honored to be a founder of Aprilís company.

While the Turtles are supposedly dead the three Shredders fight one another for control of the world. As the battles wage the Turtles remain in hiding. Mikey is still sulky due to Donnie being gone, through everyday he seemingly becomes less hopeful of Donnieís survival. April gives birth to her first child, a son. OíNeil tech is also a success.

Eventually Utrom Shredder comes out as the victor of the wars between the three Shredders. Even though he has assumed power, Utrom Shredder is heavily damaged by the battles against the other two Shredders and needs to recover. Knowing this is their only chance the three Turtles, Casey, and Karai (who has become an ally of the Turtles) attempt a tactical strike against the Shredder to defeat him and the Foot Clan for good. Utrom Shredder is surprised to see the Turtles alive but still acts confident in his victory. At one point he gloats that he assumes their missing brother must be with their rat father.

Mikey angrily barks that Donatello abandoned them a long time ago. Shredder just laughs and says that even if that was the case, he would inevitably be hunted down and share their fate. The Turtles try to take on the Shredder, but he proves too difficult Casey is killed in the battle. The Turtles all report what happened to a distraught April. Leo then points out that it seems the Shredder doesnít know Donnie is dead and that is something they can use to their advantage. Mikey snaps and says that they donít know if Donnie was dead either, they just gave up on looking for him. Leo tries to reason with his younger brother and said as long as the Shredder assumes Donnie could be alive, he would see him as a threat and he will expend his forces to find him. Mikey refuses to see reason and yells that he would only believe their brother was gone when he can see his body for himself.

Donnie's vanishing is kept deliberately vague in the Same as it Never Was story. While Donnieís character isnít well developed in this incarnation, we do know him well enough to know he would never just up and leave his family for no reason. Even if he was taken or forced to leave, he would still try to find someway to reach his brothers and let them know why he needed to.

If Donnie had just up left without any explanation or contact, then he would have to explain himself to the buisness end of Leo and Raphís weapons on sight. Instead the reaction Raph and Leo have when they see him again after so many years they are surprised and glad to have him back. So that gives only one plausiblity...Donatello is dead in that future. I don't think Leo or Raph found his remains or anything. It's more like they just came to that conclusion on their own, and then just didnít tell Mikey that Donnie is deceased because they knew he wouldnít react well to it.


Then again in Good Genes, there is a moment where Mikey is treating Donnie's second mutation like he's sick in bed with a cold. So it could be plausible that Mikey may have just been in denial for years over his kind-hearted, genius older brother being gone prefering to believe Donnie abandoned them rather then the actual truth.
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Old 01-17-2020, 01:23 PM   #5
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An Alt timeline where, when Draco-Ue sent them to different realities, Donatello never made it back to the present.
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An Alt timeline where, when Draco-Ue sent them to different realities, Donatello never made it back to the present.
Are you stating that as your opinion or as fact?
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Are you stating that as your opinion or as fact?
Just my opinion
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Old 01-18-2020, 07:33 AM   #8
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Itís never made clear, but I always assumed Don was sent to an alternate reality.
It is probably the future on an alternte Earth, where Chrell won the turtles. Unlike in the ordinary timeline, where turtles defeat Chrell in Exodus, just a few episodes later.
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