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07-07-2017, 06:11 PM | #22 |
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I don't know this guy but his comments on TMNT movies convinced me he shouldn't ever be allowed to make one.
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07-07-2017, 06:12 PM | #23 |
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Looking at the man's filmography...
No. I don't see it.
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Cause its the only big movie he's done for Disney, he usually does a bunch of Indie movies.
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07-07-2017, 10:02 PM | #26 |
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Guys, I think your being a bit too hard on the guy. Not everyone knows about the mirage comic, or how gritty the Tmnt started out. Half the younger directors out there probably grew up with Fred Wolf, and would need to research the property to get it right. Did the 1990 director know anything about tmnt until he did his research. Don't condemn him for not knowing mirage straight out of the gate, but still being a turtle fan.
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So we have these young up and coming directors, who grew up with what they saw on TV more then the comic they are based on. The director specifically said that he wasn't a fan of the 2014 movie, but liked Out Of The Shadows more cause it was close to the original series, mainly the characters of Bebop and Rocksteady, and Krang were the things he loved about it. |
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Though I think someone coming to the table first as an avid Fred Wolf TMNT fan and nothing else, and then trying to retroactively figure out "What's this about Mirage TMNT?"... that's going to create a lot of "cross contamination." Probably.
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07-08-2017, 01:45 AM | #29 |
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Where are you getting this from? He doesn't mention Bebop and Rocksteady once in the article.
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07-08-2017, 01:46 AM | #30 |
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He might as well have.
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You know what I partially hope happens? A director with his own vision comes along, one with the clout to stand up to studio demands, and willing to make a hard-edged tmnt movie, takes a look at both the mirage come and Fred Wolf cartoons, says 'forget this' chucks them both in the trash, and takes the turtles, the basics of their origin, the themes and cycle of vengeance without watering them down, and tells a whole new story in a whole new way, without slavishly copying entire mirage or Fred Wolf. Last edited by Panda_Kahn_fan; 07-08-2017 at 09:06 AM. |
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07-08-2017, 01:11 PM | #33 |
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Hell no. It's just fanfiction jambalaya.
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07-08-2017, 02:00 PM | #34 |
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That turn of phrase more accurately describes your Turtles books than IDW's.
And I say that as a fan of the former.
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Not a thing wrong with loving the the original cartoon or having grown up watching it after school every day... a lot of us did, but being the primary oringal source for us doesn't make it the only source for us now. But yes, I agree it should not be the only basis for a film. And if it's pulled from at all, maybe just stick with certain parts of it, like the Turtles goofing off at home. Don't pull from it for the actual story or use it to take away from when it needs to be serious.
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I am. He's a filmmaker who digs sh*t movies. It's his trade, he should absolutely be judged for it (and kept far, far away from TMNT).
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07-08-2017, 04:56 PM | #37 |
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What you call sh*t movies, are good movies to other, taste is subjective, and there is no such thing as sh*t movies, that's just a matter of opinion and personal taste.
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07-08-2017, 05:35 PM | #38 |
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Then you're obviously living in complete ignorance if you honestly believe that's the case.
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But some writing, no matter what and no matter who likes it, is not good. Call it trash, call it a guilty pleasure, it is what it is and isn't what it isn't... For one of the furthest extremes... Uwe Boll.
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Sounds like that "A Ghost Story" film is getting a lot of good said of it. While still I'd prefer someone with a wider range of knowledge of TMNT do the actual writing... if this guy's ability to take an absurd idea like a guy in a sheet and put the weight the film on deeper elements that go beyond that, I admit that intrigues me a bit. Whoever makes the next someday, I'd like to see that kind of purposeful depth return to TMNT.
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Though I'm sure it says a lot that this is an indie film, open to such creativity, as TMNT once was. I wish they could have that back, while aided by a bigger budget, but what are the chances. At the very least... I'm glad film makers with interest in the Turtles and the articles that say so at least offers the topic further discussion on sites like this that people tend to pay some attention to. (Not to mention the encouragement of film makers still seeing them as a worthy franchise to take on no matter if others work with them bombed.) Last edited by IndigoErth; 07-08-2017 at 08:31 PM. |
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